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Great Holy Moly Sapphire

Dude witnesses the greatest thing he ever saw in his life and he sounds like a total whiney bitch!

Wow... that was awesome!

Bitch... stop going all 'Wahhhhhh..." and get out of your Hybrid and get your ass in gear to see if anyone needs help. That's a fucking train derailment... go be a man and pitch in.

Fucking Nancy-boys.

Sihrr
 
That is a main line from ATL, north. I live beside the tracks about 10-12 miles from there. Even with two major switchyards between here and there, rail traffic yesterday was jacked up with repair rigs heading that way...always cool to watch. The envirobabies lost their shit that diesel spilled into the creek there under the front engine. One video floating around has some AZN-Karen acting as though the train was somehow to blame...
 
That driver, his company, and their insurance, are going to owe Norfolk Southern a lot of fucking money. All three locomotives, ten cars and all the freight they were hauling, a crossing bungalow and all the equipment, a top load PTC equipped intermediate bungalow and associated equipment, track and bridge repair and loss of service time to those tracks, and medical impact and time lost to the two trainmen. They're hitting easy eight figures in damages.

100% fault of the driver and the oversized load escorts, if they even had any because I don't see an obvious chase vehicle in the video. 480ft from intersection to the crossing, easily more than enough room for normal traffic to not have a preempt system linked to the crossing. When you're hauling that kind of massively oversized load, every sensible driver knows damn good and well you don't stick a nose over it until you're 99.999% sure you will get over with no stopping midway. Definitely not a sensible driver though, a sign of the times as he was one of many still on the road.

Oh, and the driver stands a good chance of jail time too, deservedly so.
 
I watched a box trailer truck full of plastic containers get hit by a train outside of New Orleans in the early 90's. Driver stopped at a red light with his trailer across the tracks. On the news they said the driver told them the light was red and he couldn't move. After I heard that I thought I bet he wished he ran the read light and got a ticket or had an accident with a car vs the train. The train sat there for two day blocking factory entrances while they were investigating, cleaning up, or whatever it was they were doing.
 
That driver, his company, and their insurance, are going to owe Norfolk Southern a lot of fucking money.

I would be interested to see how that part shakes out. I suspect the insurance company will be the least liable here, the liability policy limits are probably a couple of million.
 
I would be interested to see how that part shakes out. I suspect the insurance company will be the least liable here, the liability policy limits are probably a couple of million.
What government entity owns the bridge truss?

Was it paid for before it shipped?

Because there is a bottomless source of your money….

Sirhr
 
FOB Origin vs FOB Destination?
Lawyers look at things like this (like plane crashes) as a way to just go after everyone. It's one of the reason I won't touch any kind of flight component at the shop. Because everything has a paper trail and if a plane crashes... the Ambulance Chasers go through the paper trails and simply sue everyone... hoping for settlements from insurance companies or owners. Had the seats recovered in your Cessna? Well, they'll sue the upholsterer on the basis that maybe the seat failed and caused the crash.

I am betting that this incident will be parsed down to its smallest components and then everyone will get sued. The driver? Half of them at this point are Eastern Europeans... and they don't have enough money to sue. Jail? Being an idiot is not criminal... and who knows what happened in front of him? Red light might have been green and he got a go-ahead... and then suddenly a car in front stopped and traffic was infront of him. Who knows.

But as someone said above, this is going to be a shitshow!

And... where was the trail-car? Or did they only need a lead car? Depends on the state. If you are in New York, you need a lead a tail AND a state trooper or LEO in the 'column.' If you are in Vermont, you tie a red flag on the back and carry on. Who knows what the rules were there.

Anyay... still can't believe the wiener with the cell phone was such a.. wiener.

Cheers,

Sirhr
 
I would be interested to see how that part shakes out. I suspect the insurance company will be the least liable here, the liability policy limits are probably a couple of million.
All depending on what the company has, of course, but most commercial shipping entities, especially those who move specialty oversized loads like that, have pretty large policies. One thing is certain, the railroad has a sizable and very experienced legal department in these situations and they virtually always win, the video of the incident only cements their case.

What government entity owns the bridge truss?

Was it paid for before it shipped?

Because there is a bottomless source of your money….

Sirhr
Government contracts (pretty much...) always have clauses for the vendor to abide by all laws and regulations and that's the biggest element here - the driver broke the law by not fully clearing the crossing. Gov't will absolve themselves of any liability based on those violations.
 
I don't know who's useless'er. The driver of that truck, OR the driver of that car/video camera.

And they vote,
And they breed,
When a train goes off the rails you run towards it but at an angle away...it wasn't till that one car came towards doofus in car that he got the hell out of there. Momentum carries that beast down, but as we saw, once disconncected shit sprawls all over the place. Quite an amazing video though...fortunately for us the idiot just waited there and now we get to go "WOW, holy shit did you see that and what a dumbass video'ing that!!"
 
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When we shipped in the steel i-beams for a data center build, their default policy was $2.5M.
That barely covers the replacement cost of one AC locomotive.

Even worse for the company is the potential exclusion from future contracts due to the violation, especially if they didn't have all their oversized/overweight permits. Article I read said local law enforcement wasn't notified of the move, so that sounds dubious to me if they had all their proper permits and notifications made.

The only good thing about this incident is it was just a freight train and not an Amtrak doing 79 mph with a couple hundred passengers on board.
 
This video should be required viewing for all driver's education class (if that's still a thing). Watching that beam being obliterated and how it moved the truck itself back towards the train whilst all that other stuff was going on (cars coming off rail, trailer axles, concrete, stantions, you name it should show folks...that kinetic energy is a bitch.
 
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This video should be required viewing for all driver's education class (if that's still a thing). Watching that beam being obliterated and how it moved the truck itself back towards the train whilst all that other stuff was going on (cars coming off rail, trailer axles, concrete, stantions, you name it should show folks...that kinetic energy is a bitch.
One thing that caught my eye was how the rebar held the beam together and it wrapped around the front of he engine going down the track.
 
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I also so no escort vehicles. Sounds like someone was cutting corners. Driver will lose his CDL, and may go to jail. Shipper may go bankrupt over this.