Defiance tenacity MAG RESTRICTOR PLATE?

[Kms33kms]

My rifle build is
Coming along. I have a SA defiance tenacity (retailer said it was BDL version but also accept aics mags)
I plan on putting it in a KRG Bravo chassis. Getting mixed reviews on google about whether or not I need an aics magazine with a restrictor plate? Or without restrictor plate? Anybody dealt with this before?
It’s a standard bolt face and will be using 308/6.5cm magazines

 

[Supersubes]

Aics mags were designed to run in a “BDL” action by center feeding the rounds. No idea what you mean by restrictor plate.

 

[Kms33kms]

Not entirely sure either , just something I come across while reading about making this rifle. It may just be with KRG magazines for their chassis
But this is what I’m talking about

 

[Kms33kms]

Aics mags were designed to run in a “BDL” action by center feeding the rounds. No idea what you mean by restrictor plate.

Just double checked. MDT even offers the same with their magazines

 

[sierra2]

Just double checked. MDT even offers the same with their magazines

They’re talking about the binder plate at the front of the magazine where the seam is welded. By eliminating the binder plate, it allows you to load rounds to a longer overall length, but still fit in the magazine. HOWEVER, without the binder plate, the rounds can sit far enough forward in the magazine that the tip of the bullet is underneath the feed ramp of some receivers. I just checked two Tenacitys sitting in Manner mini-chassis stocks and the end of the feed ramp sits flush with the mag well. No issue there. My wife’s Howa in a KRG bravo is a different story. The feed ramp overhangs the front edge of the magazine a bit. Enough to hang up the tip of a bullet from feeding up the ramp without the binder plate.

 

[Kms33kms]

They’re talking about the binder plate at the front of the magazine where the seam is welded. By eliminating the binder plate, it allows you to load rounds to a longer overall length, but still fit in the magazine. HOWEVER, without the binder plate, the rounds can sit far enough forward in the magazine that the tip of the bullet is underneath the feed ramp of some receivers. I just checked two Tenacitys sitting in Manner stocks w/mini-chassis, and the end of the feed ramp sits flush with the mag well. No issue there. My wife’s Howa in a KRG bravo is a different story. The feed ramp overhangs the front edge of the magazine a bit. Enough to hang up the tip of a bullet from feeding up the ramp without the binder plate.

Awesome man that’s all I needed , thanks

 

[Average guy]

I had to open the front of the action on my tenacity to run binderless mags. Rounds would hang under the feed ramp. Running a mag with a binder plate worked well before opening it up

 

[DangerRanger]

Tenacity Wyatt’s cut needs binder mags unless you notch the feed ramp.

Tenacity Guardian cut does not.

 

[Kms33kms]

Tenacity Wyatt’s cut needs binder mags unless you notch the feed ramp.

Tenacity Guardian cut does not.

So the guardian cut is the BDL?

 

[DangerRanger]

So the guardian cut is the BDL?

Guardian cut is aI/aw and can take binderless mags

Wyatts cut is bdl and can use aics also but only with a binder mag unless you notch it.

 

[Kms33kms]

Guardian cut is aI/aw and can take binderless mags

Wyatts cut is bdl and can use aics also but only with a binder mag unless you notch it.

Is there anyway to tell which cut my tenacity has? Or should I just call retailer I got it from?

 

[DangerRanger]

You could call defiance and give them your serial number.

Odds are if retailer said bdl it’s Wyatt’s as guardian is not made for bdl use

It will run aics just don’t buy binderless mags

 

[Kms33kms]

You could call defiance and give them your serial number.

Odds are if retailer said bdl it’s Wyatt’s as guardian is not made for bdl use

It will run aics just don’t buy binderless mags

Yep retailer just said it’s Wyatt’s cut. Thanks for the help man