Is something going on in Ukraine?
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At the end of the day, it's up to you to figure it out. A helpful tip - you look at the history of the world, different precedents, etc.
So no one you can name?
There is still (and will be) massive foreign investment in this country. Despite all the gloom and doom, it's worse elsewhere.
Chechen Commander Calls $3 Billion in US Military Aid "Money Laundering Scheme - No More than 15% Will Reach the Trenches"
As the Pentagon announced another $3 billion in military aid on Jan. 6, Chechnyan leader Ramzan Kadyrov said he is not worried because “no more than 15% of the entire aid will reach the trenches”, being diverted to other channels instead. “Today, the Department of Defense (DoD) announces the...
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About right.
Now Fighting for Ukraine: Volunteers Seeking Revenge Against Russia
Chechens, Crimean Tatars and people from the former Soviet republics, all with deep historical grievances against Moscow, are eagerly taking up arms for Kyiv.By Carlotta Gall
- Jan. 8, 2023Updated 11:10 a.m. ET
- 5 MIN READ
The action was part of a live-fire training exercise for new recruits on a recent morning outside the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv. But there was an unusual element to the event. While a Ukrainian Army officer was giving the orders, the trainees were members of a volunteer Chechen battalion that also mixed in some Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians.
Ukraine’s military commanders have long said they do not lack soldiers for the war, but they have nonetheless welcomed to their ranks thousands of volunteers, including foreign citizens. Many of them, like the Chechens, are refugees from Russia itself. Others have come from surrounding nations, like Georgia, that have a history of opposition to Moscow and the leadership of President Vladimir V. Putin.
“We saw what was happening,” said Muslim Madiyev, a gray-bearded deputy commander of the Chechen battalion, wearing ear protectors to muffle the sound of gunfire as he watched the training exercises. “Ukraine has no shortage of men, but we have to join and be a part of this war.”
Many of the volunteers were already living in Ukraine, either for work or seeking refuge from political oppression back home. Some volunteers have struggled with visas and residency permits, while their eagerness to join the fight has aroused suspicions among some Ukrainian officials and commanders, who are on high alert for saboteurs.
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A sniper in winter camouflage during a training exercise for the volunteer Chechen battalion, a mix of Chechens, Tatars and Ukrainians.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
Members of the Chechen battalion practicing the evacuation of a wounded soldier. Soon they will be doing this for real on the front line as they relieve regular Ukrainian units.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
But the volunteers seem to be finding their place. Mr. Madiyev, a veteran of two wars in Chechnya against Moscow, was an associate of Dzhokhar Dudayev, the former Soviet general who led Chechnya’s bid for independence from Russia in the 1990s. Exiled from Chechnya, Mr. Madiyev settled in Ukraine in 2016.
His battalion, named for the late Chechen leader, is one of several Chechen units that have joined Ukraine in its fight against Russia in recent years, following the 2014 uprising of Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea. Mr. Madiyev declined to reveal how many active fighters he had, saying simply, “We have enough.”
He spoke about the Russian invasion the way many Ukrainians do, saying that if Moscow is not stopped in Ukraine, it will threaten many more countries of Europe.
But the younger fighters in his battalion take things further.
“Our aim is the liberation of the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria,” a Chechen fighter said, using the name of the erstwhile self-declared republic, “and to help all the nations who want it, to gain freedom.” In accordance with military protocol, he gave only his code name, Maga.
The Chechens are only one example of numerous ethnic-based battalions and regiments that have been forming in Ukraine since Russia’s invasion last February.
Fighters from Belarus have formed a regiment thousands strong. Other volunteers come from the Caucasus and Central Asia, as well as from ethnic minorities that have large populations in Russia: Chechens, Tatars and Turkic-speaking groups.
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Members of a Ukrainian military unit that included Georgian volunteers in the Kherson region in October.Credit...Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
Almaz Kudabek, the leader of a volunteer battalion composed of Turkic-speaking ethnic groups from the Caucasus, Central Asia and Russia, at a base in the Zaporizhzhia region of Ukraine last month.Credit...David Guttenfelder for The New York Times
Most of them are motivated by historical grievances of dispossession and suppression by Moscow. Chechens and Tatars were among many groups that were decimated by forcible deportations under Stalin in the 1940s.
There is also a smattering of Russian exiles, among them Russian nationalists and neo-Nazis who are opposed to Mr. Putin. A thousands-strong regiment of Belarusians includes many opponents of the country’s president, Aleksandr G. Lukashenko.
Their participation in the war may be useful for Ukraine, but it is also a potentially explosive issue for the Kyiv government because most of them harbor long-term political ambitions to return home and overthrow the Russian and Belarusian governments. Ukrainian military officials declined to comment on their use of the volunteer groups, while a spokesman for the Ukrainian security service, the S.B.U., said it was not responsible for managing them.
But the volunteers themselves say that they are acting with the full knowledge and under the orders of the Ukrainian Army and intelligence services. Many of their operations are covert, including dangerous reconnaissance or sabotage missions behind Russian lines.
In response to an appeal by Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, early in the war, thousands of volunteers poured in from Western countries, including the United States and Britain. Most joined the International Legion, which has been recognized by the Ukrainian government and, to some extent, integrated into the Ukrainian Army.
At a news briefing last month, Ukraine’s defense minister, Oleksii Reznikov, said there were ideological and political benefits to having foreign soldiers fighting alongside Ukrainians in defense of European values.
Russian volunteers with the Ukrainian Bratstvo group returning from a nighttime operation behind enemy lines. They run the risk of harsh treatment if caught by Moscow’s forces.Credit...Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
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Russian volunteer fighters preparing to go on a joint nighttime operation with the Ukrainian Bratstvo Battalion in November.Credit...Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
Foreign soldiers were also gaining valuable experience, he added: “The experience of the modern war here, the war of technologies, drone war and electronic warfare. So I think it’s a win-win exchange.”
But the volunteers from former Soviet republics are, in many ways, even more useful.
They have a linguistic advantage because most speak Russian, which is widely spoken in Ukraine, and sometimes Ukrainian, making coordination with the Ukrainian military easier. And some, like a group of Georgians in the Kavkaz Legion, have battlefield experience, having served with the NATO-led force in Afghanistan.
Their knowledge of Russia and Russians, and their hatred of Moscow, has made the volunteers good undercover operators for Kyiv. Some Ukrainian officials and lawmakers have even expressed support for their causes. In October, for example, the Ukrainian Parliament passed a motion recognizing the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria as a territory occupied by Russia.
But they also face substantial risks, given the nature of their work behind enemy lines. Not just Russian citizens, but virtually any undercover soldiers captured by Russian forces would be dealt with harshly.
One of the more recently formed volunteer battalions, Turan, is composed of Turkic-speaking ethnic groups from the Caucasus, Central Asia and Russia. It is led by a refugee from Kyrgyzstan, Almaz Kudabek, who had worked as a barber on American bases in his home country and in the Afghan city of Kandahar.
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Members of a Ukrainian unit that included Georgian volunteers before a frontline operation near Kherson last October.Credit...Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
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Georgian volunteers in the Kherson region last October.Credit...Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
He says he has recruited Azerbaijanis, Tatars and Chinese Uyghurs to the group, and he talks passionately about the marginalization and oppression of Turkic-speaking minorities in Russia. He said that Moscow had unfairly drawn conscripts for the war predominantly from remote and poorer regions of Russia, including those populated by Turkic-speaking ethnic minorities, who have been killed in far greater numbers than ethnic Russians.
But Mr. Kudabek said members of his unit could turn that injustice to their advantage, infiltrating Russian-occupied territory on sabotage missions and even passing themselves off as Russian soldiers.
“We just want to fight Russians,” he said. “We know what they are.”
Despite their evident value to the Ukrainian military, the commanders of ethnic battalions complained of a lack of support from Kyiv. The Chechen battalion leader, Mr. Madiyev, said that beyond weapons and ammunition, the units have to provide for their own food, fuel and equipment.
The leader of a Russian regiment, a far-right nationalist who uses the code name White Rex, said he ran into multiple obstacles when he formed the unit shortly after the Russians invaded.
Although he and his fellow volunteers had lived in Ukraine for several years, they were initially met with suspicion from Ukrainians on edge about Russian saboteurs. “We were held at gunpoint,” he said. “We had many funny, and not so funny, encounters, but I was determined to have this regiment.”
But they have also found support among Ukrainians.
A Ukrainian volunteer group, Bratstvo, eventually helped the Russian regiment find a role for itself not so dissimilar from the other ethnic battalions, operating behind Russian lines and carrying out reconnaissance and sabotage missions for the Ukrainian Army.
Minutes before setting out on a night mission recently, White Rex said his aim had always been to find a way to return home to Russia. But he said the war had taught him that the way to return to Russia was to overthrow Mr. Putin and his government.
“The Russian Volunteer Corps marches in and destroys the current government — that’s the only way,” he said. “You cannot persuade a tyrant to leave, and any other force would be seen as invaders.”
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‘Racist’ interview with Pope Francis causes fury in Russia
Francis says Chechen and Buryat minorities in Russia’s army more cruel in Ukraine than other soldiers
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he's right, those fks have zero regard for western life‘Racist’ interview with Pope Francis causes fury in Russia
Francis says Chechen and Buryat minorities in Russia’s army more cruel in Ukraine than other soldiers
stop...just stop, not even in the same realm of reality
he's right, finally the pope said something right‘Racist’ interview with Pope Francis causes fury in Russia
Francis says Chechen and Buryat minorities in Russia’s army more cruel in Ukraine than other soldiers
It’s almost like NATO (the US) is making great strides in uniting all the world’s international factions that are normally warring against each other, into a common social and economic enemy.
Paradox being if you're white normal man and in the west you're on the wrong side and whats worse you're actively supporting the very thing that is (has been) killing you and your kind... But what do i know carry on...
I think it more of the case that it’s Russia taking advantage of the situation and using what religious groups find morally outrageous and giving them two things: an entity to blame and a common bond in the outrage of moral decline. He is trying to rally the major religions on his and his allys’ countries into believing that their faith will be lost forever if he loses.
Certain groups will have the perspective that if this is “pro-Ukraine group” is allowed to stand then the prospects of knowing God and going to heaven are going to be eradicated and their children will be forced to be gay. That will motivate them to at least support Putin. It needs to be recognized that he is not talking only to Russia but the entire BRIC lineup - all the countries ready to break away from the US dollar and US influence. That’s a lot of humans.
Yes, it is a lot of humans. Many, like us, are frustrated with the the leftist crap and like most humans, look for simple easy solutions to get behind. He is running an old school psyop which is simpler and arguably more effective when the fancy narrative curation we use over here has lost its saltiness.
Good:evil and what you call shades of that is completely irrelevant. Maybe you should ask Flynn, Trump, Randy Weaver and some other unfortunate people that have met "the true face of the Republic"...
Interesting, laser irradiation warning gizmo , covers cca 240° in xy 120° in z ,essentially its capable of of indentifying laser type (range finder vs target designator) and give ither a vibrating or audible warning to general direction , left , right ,or center , so if one or both sensors are irradiated ,It was retailed through Finland in Eu ,but its a Russian design ,might be built in China , i was trying to buy some for a Mil customer last year so got in contact with the Fin PO box , but no dice .
At the time we were looking to use it as a tripod mounted dodad for sniper teams.
Angles covered by sensor and overlap in the middle if worn on chest rig
At the time we were looking to use it as a tripod mounted dodad for sniper teams.
Angles covered by sensor and overlap in the middle if worn on chest rig
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Can you believe those Iranians... sending weapons into Ukraine.
Is this the same group that predicted; Ukraine will defeat russia in 6 months?
Here's where they get it wrong, "US submarines, bombers, and fighter aircraft, often reinforced by Japan Self-Defense Forces"
Joe isn't going to help.
Taiwan-Invasion War Game by US Think Tank Sees China Quickly Flopping
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Here's where they get it wrong, "US submarines, bombers, and fighter aircraft, often reinforced by Japan Self-Defense Forces"
Joe isn't going to help.
you are going to have to expand on your position a bit so I can follow what your objection is.
I see that you have that RG guy "liking" your post, and if I remember, he was parroting all the state department talking points last year, so I can only imagine. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Elaborate.
Yeah, nothing better than clearing minefields with your feet and if you're lucky, you end up a paraplegic or stopping bullets until the enemy runs out of ammo and you may be lucky to survive and clear the enemy line. That fate is surely better than being alive in a prison.
looks like they get paid base salary plus commission.
While awaiting the arrival of a new batch of NATO equipment in Ukraine, Russian civil society groups and warrior guilds have begun announcing their own awards for destroyed battle tanks, IFV and APC. Anyone can contribute his or her own money to the prize fund. Prizes are awarded to winners who have destroyed enemy equipment declared in the competition list and recorded the result.
This is a new trend in the Russian information environment that emerged largely due to striking effectiveness of Wagner PMC fighters and other well-coordinated professional groups of the Russian military. The courage and fearlessness of these warriors amid modest successes of regular Russian MoD units brings fame at the level of top celebrities. Opponents from NATO countries cannot boast of the same.
US IFV M2 Bradley and MBT Leopard have become particularly popular in the hunt.
The RSOTM (River Side Of The Medal) Telegram channel, for example, stated that the winners would receive branded T-shirts, as well as $14,000 for M2 Bradley and $28,000 for Leopard in addition. However, RSOTM has declared that it would not be announcing rewards for the elimination of enemy soldiers or undesirable persons, not under any circumstances. This is in stark contrast to Ukrainian statements about rewards for the heads of journalists, politicians or individual Russian commanders.
RSOTM is one of the modern-day phenomena. A few years ago, the Telegram channel was created by a group of PMCs and professional military personnel under the leadership of a persona known as “Admin”. Another fighter known as “Vladlen Tatarsky”, who became extremely popular in 2022, is actively involved in the case. A video with him you may have seen on our web site. This team has now actually turned into a separate warrior guild.
The Russian MoD also pays bonuses to soldiers and officers for destroying enemy equipment or accomplishing important military tasks.
The situation is different in the Wagner PMC, where the minimum salary is about $3500. At the same time, bonuses for the destroyed enemy’s equipment are many times higher than in the Russian Defense Ministry.
It is clear that the initiatives launched by RSOTM and other similar organizations are aimed at effectively increasing the material aspect of the motivation of all Russian soldiers in the conflict zone. Whether this will bring any visible results will be seen in the near future.
In any rate, Russian society has begun to change. The conflict in Ukraine may well lead to a very different socio-cultural formation in Russia within a few years. Thanks to the US and NATO. The Kiev armed coup in 2014, known as Euromaidan, led to a new world that will never be the same again.
$14K FOR BRADLEY AND $28K FOR LEOPARD. THE RUSSIAN DOGS OF WAR LAUNCHED COMPETITION FOR ALL
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While awaiting the arrival of a new batch of NATO equipment in Ukraine, Russian civil society groups and warrior guilds have begun announcing their own awards for destroyed battle tanks, IFV and APC. Anyone can contribute his or her own money to the prize fund. Prizes are awarded to winners who have destroyed enemy equipment declared in the competition list and recorded the result.
This is a new trend in the Russian information environment that emerged largely due to striking effectiveness of Wagner PMC fighters and other well-coordinated professional groups of the Russian military. The courage and fearlessness of these warriors amid modest successes of regular Russian MoD units brings fame at the level of top celebrities. Opponents from NATO countries cannot boast of the same.
US IFV M2 Bradley and MBT Leopard have become particularly popular in the hunt.
The RSOTM (River Side Of The Medal) Telegram channel, for example, stated that the winners would receive branded T-shirts, as well as $14,000 for M2 Bradley and $28,000 for Leopard in addition. However, RSOTM has declared that it would not be announcing rewards for the elimination of enemy soldiers or undesirable persons, not under any circumstances. This is in stark contrast to Ukrainian statements about rewards for the heads of journalists, politicians or individual Russian commanders.
RSOTM is one of the modern-day phenomena. A few years ago, the Telegram channel was created by a group of PMCs and professional military personnel under the leadership of a persona known as “Admin”. Another fighter known as “Vladlen Tatarsky”, who became extremely popular in 2022, is actively involved in the case. A video with him you may have seen on our web site. This team has now actually turned into a separate warrior guild.
The Russian MoD also pays bonuses to soldiers and officers for destroying enemy equipment or accomplishing important military tasks.
Interestingly, Russia’s Defense Ministry bonuses are low even in comparison to the monthly salary of an ordinary contract or mobilized soldier serving in the conflict zone. According to the official statements of the Defense Ministry, the minimum salary of such an enlisted man is approximately USD 2,800, while the one of sergeants and officers is some higher. It turns out that if we are talking only about material motivation, it is preferable for a Defense Ministry serviceman just to stay in the conflict zone rather than to conduct active combat operations, risking his life even more.
The situation is different in the Wagner PMC, where the minimum salary is about $3500. At the same time, bonuses for the destroyed enemy’s equipment are many times higher than in the Russian Defense Ministry.
It is clear that the initiatives launched by RSOTM and other similar organizations are aimed at effectively increasing the material aspect of the motivation of all Russian soldiers in the conflict zone. Whether this will bring any visible results will be seen in the near future.
In any rate, Russian society has begun to change. The conflict in Ukraine may well lead to a very different socio-cultural formation in Russia within a few years. Thanks to the US and NATO. The Kiev armed coup in 2014, known as Euromaidan, led to a new world that will never be the same again.
Russian artillery fire down nearly 75%, US officials say, in latest sign of struggles for Moscow
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so, who's the person in charge of counting rounds?
lol only a fool believes what us officials say as they haven't a clue.
Ukraine Latest: EU and NATO to Sign New Cooperation Agreement
The Pentagon said 90 to 100 Ukrainian soldiers will come to a US Army base in Oklahoma for training starting next week on operating and maintaining the complicated Patriot air defense system the US is providing.
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What Is Ukraine Hiding in the Bakhmut Salt Mines?
Guest Post by Larry Johnson The prolonged battle for Bakhmut is portrayed in the press as a symbol of Russian weakness. I know that many Westerners have scratched their heads and wondered why such …
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I heard that Wagner was just a bunch of criminals being used to clear minefields, but then there's this...
On 10 January 2022, in the late afternoon, official media sources of the Russian Wagner PMC stated that the cirty of Soledar had been captured by Russian units.
Soledar was one of the key points of defence of the AFU in the East of Ukraine. The city is home to Europe’s largest salt production facility.
Evgeny Prigoggin, head of the Wagner PMC, announced:
“Wagner PMC units have taken control of the entire territory of Soledar. A cauldron has been formed in the centre of the city, where urban fighting is taking place. The number of prisoners will be announced tomorrow.
I should like to stress once again that no units other than those of the Wagner Cheka were involved in the storming of Soledar.”
Prigozhin himself was also in the ranks of his warriors in Soledar.
Prigozhin and his soldiers stand at the Salt Mine Museum, which is already closer to the western outskirts of Soledar, confirming full control of the town.
It is currently known that the city, for the most part including the centre, was occupied by Wagner PMC assault groups. The PMC units took all the dominant heights around the city, including Yurchina Mountain, taking direct fire control of the AFU supply roads and outposts. Several hundred more Ukrainian soldiers reportedly remain in the city.
A mopping-up of the city is underway.
The active phase of fighting for Soledar lasted more than four months, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defences were resistant to regular army units and they were subsequently withdrawn from the front line. It took the Wagner Group just over two weeks to take the city directly.
BREAKING. RUSSIANS CAPTURED AFU STRONGHOLD SOLEDAR
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On 10 January 2022, in the late afternoon, official media sources of the Russian Wagner PMC stated that the cirty of Soledar had been captured by Russian units.
Soledar was one of the key points of defence of the AFU in the East of Ukraine. The city is home to Europe’s largest salt production facility.
Evgeny Prigoggin, head of the Wagner PMC, announced:
“Wagner PMC units have taken control of the entire territory of Soledar. A cauldron has been formed in the centre of the city, where urban fighting is taking place. The number of prisoners will be announced tomorrow.
I should like to stress once again that no units other than those of the Wagner Cheka were involved in the storming of Soledar.”
Prigozhin himself was also in the ranks of his warriors in Soledar.
Prigozhin and his soldiers stand at the Salt Mine Museum, which is already closer to the western outskirts of Soledar, confirming full control of the town.
It is currently known that the city, for the most part including the centre, was occupied by Wagner PMC assault groups. The PMC units took all the dominant heights around the city, including Yurchina Mountain, taking direct fire control of the AFU supply roads and outposts. Several hundred more Ukrainian soldiers reportedly remain in the city.
A mopping-up of the city is underway.
The active phase of fighting for Soledar lasted more than four months, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defences were resistant to regular army units and they were subsequently withdrawn from the front line. It took the Wagner Group just over two weeks to take the city directly.
I heard that Wagner was just a bunch of criminals being used to clear minefields, but then there's this...
BREAKING. RUSSIANS CAPTURED AFU STRONGHOLD SOLEDAR
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On 10 January 2022, in the late afternoon, official media sources of the Russian Wagner PMC stated that the cirty of Soledar had been captured by Russian units.
Soledar was one of the key points of defence of the AFU in the East of Ukraine. The city is home to Europe’s largest salt production facility.
Evgeny Prigoggin, head of the Wagner PMC, announced:
“Wagner PMC units have taken control of the entire territory of Soledar. A cauldron has been formed in the centre of the city, where urban fighting is taking place. The number of prisoners will be announced tomorrow.
I should like to stress once again that no units other than those of the Wagner Cheka were involved in the storming of Soledar.”
Prigozhin himself was also in the ranks of his warriors in Soledar.
Prigozhin and his soldiers stand at the Salt Mine Museum, which is already closer to the western outskirts of Soledar, confirming full control of the town.
It is currently known that the city, for the most part including the centre, was occupied by Wagner PMC assault groups. The PMC units took all the dominant heights around the city, including Yurchina Mountain, taking direct fire control of the AFU supply roads and outposts. Several hundred more Ukrainian soldiers reportedly remain in the city.
A mopping-up of the city is underway.
The active phase of fighting for Soledar lasted more than four months, but the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ defences were resistant to regular army units and they were subsequently withdrawn from the front line. It took the Wagner Group just over two weeks to take the city directly.
edit - Wagner group motto
Wagner PMC wears its brutality on its sleeve, the motto of the group is chilling: ‘Death is our business – and business is good.’
with a Billionaire financing this bad boy, I'm sure he's bypassing a ton of graft that the regular russian army has.
As for the Chechens
makes you wonder if Putin told him, you can keep the humans you capture.. Slaves are alahs will
". In fact slaves and the taking of slaves make up an important part of the sira about Muhammad's life; slaves were a form of booty and almost always the most valuable part, so the taking of slaves formed a huge part of the impetus behind the prophet's military campaigns. As is extremely clear from the rest of the tradition, female slaves taken by Muslim mujaahideen must submit sexually to their new masters, and sex with them is specifically permitted, as is the beating of disobedient slaves."
Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Slavery
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Wagner is Russian; the Chechens are the Muslimsmakes you wonder if Putin told him, you can keep the humans you capture.. Slaves are alahs will
". In fact slaves and the taking of slaves make up an important part of the sira about Muhammad's life; slaves were a form of booty and almost always the most valuable part, so the taking of slaves formed a huge part of the impetus behind the prophet's military campaigns. As is extremely clear from the rest of the tradition, female slaves taken by Muslim mujaahideen must submit sexually to their new masters, and sex with them is specifically permitted, as is the beating of disobedient slaves."
Qur'an, Hadith and Scholars:Slavery
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This is fucked up. Biden pressing our faggot PM for Canadian tax dollars
“The Liberal government is spending more than $400 million to buy air-defence systems for Ukraine even though the Canadian Forces has been without such equipment for more than a decade.”
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“The Liberal government is spending more than $400 million to buy air-defence systems for Ukraine even though the Canadian Forces has been without such equipment for more than a decade.”
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🔞 Extraordinary first person combat footage of Russian soldiers on the advance. Ukrainian soldiers are discovered, given the chance to give up their weapons, they don't.....
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not quick enough to surrender wonder why Russian even "debated the issue at hand", simply put them down no discussion. But proof that those fighting are far from what MSM would want you to believe they are....
When Russia retreated a month or so ago.. they simply left behind a shit load of weapons and armored vehicles.
Looks like this is a sign that things are going well. . .
That's the sign that politicians (Putin) acknowledged how the fuckups happened (logistics and draft issues) and raised the overall command of the theater to highest levels. To put in perspective if Surovikin now as part (deputy even) of general staff requires 100 dildos, 100 dildos he will get and no lowlife "general of logistics" somewhere in redneck town of Izgubitsyaja of Urals will be able to debate the issue of dildos. Basically like your military would elevate commander of pacom that is responsible for blockade of China to the deputy of the Join chiefs due to the issues of supply of "whatever" to the fleet performing blockade...
For you this should be worrisome as Russia appears to have (a while ago i guess - in August) acknowledged and treat this Ukraine affair as de facto war with West. While some of you might dismiss this as "scifi armageddon bullshit" if this keeps escalating i'm pretty sure nukes will fly as the end and this planet will definitely have a reset - just not the kind psychopaths in the west would like to have..
For you this should be worrisome as Russia appears to have (a while ago i guess - in August) acknowledged and treat this Ukraine affair as de facto war with West. While some of you might dismiss this as "scifi armageddon bullshit" if this keeps escalating i'm pretty sure nukes will fly as the end and this planet will definitely have a reset - just not the kind psychopaths in the west would like to have..
That type of escalation, letting out the sunshine, I believe would only happen if one side is severely backed into a corner.
Example- just say the US unleashes the full force of Space, Air and Naval power, likely pulling out weapons thats are not public, decimating Russia’s ability to fight conventionally. That is in my arm chair general opinion the most likely, and not likely.
US government and some people are ok with arming Ukraine, blowing up piplines, etc. Hardly any one is up for direct full on war, Iraq a la 1991 style. Biden definitely doesnt have the balls to do that.
We are no where near nukes.
Zelensky Speaks at Golden Globe Awards - Attempts to Assure West "There Will Be No Third World War"
President Volodymyr Zelensky spoke last night to the Golden Globes crowd via a pre-recorded video. He was introduced by Sean Penn. Zelensky told the crowd there will not be a World War III. President Volodymyr Zelensky addressed the public in a pre-recorded video during the Golden Globes award...
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Let Hollywood support him, and use that money for US citizens that NEED help NOW.
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On January 11, Shoigu made new appointments to lead the special operation:- Chief of the General Staff Valery Gerasimov appointed Commander of the Joint Group of Forces;
- General Surovikin, Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces General Salyukov and Deputy Chief of the General Staff Colonel General Kim were appointed Gerasimov's deputies;
- Raising the level of leadership of the special operation is associated with the expansion of the scale of the tasks being solved, the need to organize closer interaction between the types and branches of the troops, the Ministry of Defense said.
the previous guy (Surovikin) is now the deputy to the new guy (Gerasimov). so, he is still there and in the 2nd highest position. the new guy has some ideas that Putin likes.
https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Por...es/English/MilitaryReview_20160228_art009.pdf
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