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Spoken like an degenerate atheist.
Rand's faith, or lack there of has zero to do with this quote. Every one of The Founding Fathers would agree with this statement and wonder just why in hell We The People have not yet delivered a harsh reminder, to those who occupy elected offices, in These United States.
 
Rand's faith, or lack there of has zero to do with this quote. Every one of The Founding Fathers would agree with this statement and wonder just why in hell We The People have not yet delivered a harsh reminder, to those who occupy elected offices, in These United States.
It does relate. Atheism ignores the hierarchy of authority.
 
It does relate. Atheism ignores the hierarchy of authority.
You sir, are mistaken, because this has nothing to do with atheism. Yes, the hierarchy of our Representative Constitutional Republic places the citizen above the elected official, hence the right to vote and the Bill of Rights, especially the Second Amendment, hence:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is as natural as manure. "
Thomas Jefferson
 
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To disagree with what she said by saying what you just did then you believe government’s authority is derived from god. That’s as crazy as it gets.
“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬
Read the book.

My general rule is to obey the government until it tells me to do something against the Bible.
 
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“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬
Read the book.

My general rule is to obey the government until it tells me to do something against the Bible.
For fuck’s sake.
People believe this stuff :ROFLMAO:
 
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“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬
Read the book.

My general rule is to obey the government until it tells me to do something against the Bible.
The Word is true. We are the intended authority in our American government. Our Government is LIMITED. It is a system that is by "We The People", according to our God given Rights. We are self-governing, given by the Almighty. We elect Representatives to do our will, not their own. We have laws, created, executed, judged, largely by Elected Representatives, by We The People.

Jefferson stated, in the Declaration of Independence:

"When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation….

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
 
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“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬
Read the book.

My general rule is to obey the government until it tells me to do something against the Bible.
Look at Hosea 8:3,4
 
white guys left, huh? how you liking that diversity you asked for?

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It’s always toxic masculinity until someone is kicking your ass.

Suddenly she is a fan of toxic masculinity and whiteness LOL.
Stunning and brave. You don't need a man. A woman can do anything a man can do. Women should have a "right" to serve in combat. We need more female generals and business leaders. The physical fitness standards for police, fire fighters and Army Rangers has always favored the patriarchy and needs changed. Men can get pregnant. It's not nice to fight. Tell the bad man to leave you alone.

Hey Tamara, have you always voted for the democrats that coddle criminals, defund the police, want to disarm everyone and punish white males because of their skin color and sex? Have you always favored leveling tilting the playing field in a woman's favor? Have you always favored hiring women over men in your company? Have you ever been punched in the face before? Did you know that would hurt that much?

Ever wanted to know what it's like to be in a man's world? Well, missy, you're living in it now! Welcome to the club!
 
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All these "studies" promoting everything from climate change to sweetners... really goes to show just how deep deeply entrenched the diabolical EVIL tentacles of Pfizer and Deep State Gates go...

I'd love to see a study on how many people actually believe this line of complete and utter bullshit. Oh wait.. maybe not.
 

It’s insanity! Unbelievable!
I just did my taxes and as usual I have to pay . I'm wondering if I should just mail my payment straight to Ukraine and cut out the middle man ?
 
“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬ ‭ESV‬‬
Read the book.

My general rule is to obey the government until it tells me to do something against the Bible.

Paul was referring to the authority of the levitical priest system and the elders that was still in place at that time .
He wasn't talking about man's government !
 
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All these "studies" promoting everything from climate change to sweetners... really goes to show just how deep deeply entrenched the diabolical EVIL tentacles of Pfizer and Deep State Gates go...

I'd love to see a study on how many people actually believe this line of complete and utter bullshit. Oh wait.. maybe not.
I’m fairly certain that the CDC will release a study next week that states that fluorescent lighting and LEDs may directly contribute to heart attacks, strokes, and myocardial infarction - with the timing to sync with the news that the power will be out for a week for the safety of your children and elderly.... while reminding you that your night vision improves if you are wearing a face covering.
 
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Paul was referring to the authority of the levitical priest system and the elders that was still in place at that time .
He wasn't talking about man's government !
The illegal and non-livitical priests who Jesus referred to as a brood of vipers? The same priests who couldn't stand in the holy of holies without dropping dead from an illegal presence before God because of the violation of the rules and dates?

Your belief that Paul was referring to submission to them is grievously in error, brother.
 
Paul was referring to the authority of the levitical priest system and the elders that was still in place at that time .
He wasn't talking about man's government !
“For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Did the church collect taxes? 🤔. Also, do you really think overall that a priesthood would do any better than a bunch of apostates? I don’t, because many of them haven’t.
 
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The illegal and non-livitical priests who Jesus referred to as a brood of vipers? The same priests who couldn't stand in the holy of holies without dropping dead from an illegal presence before God because of the violation of the rules and dates?

Your belief that Paul was referring to submission to them is grievously in error, brother.


The system that was set in place during the Exodus was instituted and givin authority by God regardless of whether or not it was corrupted by man . Man corrupts everything he touches .
The verse he quoted clearly says there is no authority less it come from and is instituted by God !
I see scripture in Leviticus doing just that .
I see nowhere in scripture where God has givin or authorized his authority to my local building inspector , trash man or popo.

Believe what you wish .



“For because of this you also pay taxes, for the authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing. Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭13‬:‭6‬-‭7‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Did the church collect taxes? 🤔. Also, do you really think overall that a priesthood would do any better than a bunch of apostates? I don’t, because many of them haven’t.

Your ESV version adds the word taxes .
I'm reading from the Geneva bible , the one that the pilgrims and our founding fathers read and built this country on , of which gives a different reading .
You know , back when men actually read their Bible instead of sitting in a pew with there little beak open waiting to be fed whatever doctrine the pastor chooses to drop in their mouth .
Believe what you choose.
Have a nice day .
 
The system that was set in place during the Exodus was instituted and givin authority by God regardless of whether or not it was corrupted by man . Man corrupts everything he touches .
The verse he quoted clearly says there is no authority less it come from and is instituted by God !
I see scripture in Leviticus doing just that .
I see nowhere in scripture where God has givin or authorized his authority to my local building inspector , trash man or popo.

Believe what you wish .





Your ESV version adds the word taxes .
I'm reading from the Geneva bible , the one that the pilgrims and our founding fathers read and built this country on , of which gives a different reading .
You know , back when men actually read their Bible instead of sitting in a pew with there little beak open waiting to be fed whatever doctrine the pastor chooses to drop in their mouth .
Believe what you choose.
Have a nice day .
What about this? Was Nebuchadnezzar a levitical priest?

“The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭4‬:‭17‬ ‭ESV‬‬

Also, the Geneva Bible, as well as the KJV, uses the word “tribute”, which is in general money paid to an entity as owed. You also leave out the context. It mentions “fear to whom you owe fear”. As I understand it, we are to fear God, as we are to fear the authority that God has set over us. Do you not think God has ordained our current political climate or that it exists against his will? I don’t think so.
 
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What about this? Was Nebuchadnezzar a levitical priest?

“The sentence is by the decree of the watchers, the decision by the word of the holy ones, to the end that the living may know that the Most High rules the kingdom of men and gives it to whom he will and sets over it the lowliest of men.’”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭4‬:‭17‬ ‭ESV‬‬

You mean -

"The sentence is according to the decree of the watchmen , and according to the word of the holy ones : the demand was answered , to the intent that living men may know , that the most High hath power over the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will , and appointeth over it the most abject of men .

Daniel was interpreting a dream for Nebuchadnezzar, that verse has nothing to do with government.
He was warning Nebuchadnezzar of his coming judgement .
Do you not know who the watchmen are , do you not know who the Most High is ?
It sure as hell isn't anyone on this earth .

You might want to read the whole chapter , and actually put it in context .

Take care brother.
 
"The sentence is according to the decree of the watchmen , and according to the word of the holy ones : the demand was answered , to the intent that living men may know , that the most High hath power over the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will , and appointeth over it the most abject of men .

Daniel was interpreting a dream for Nebuchadnezzar, that verse has nothing to do with government.
He was warning Nebuchadnezzar of his coming judgement .
Do you not know who the watchmen are , do you not know who the Most High is ?
It sure as hell isn't anyone on this earth .

You might want to read the whole chapter , and actually put it in context .

Take care brother.

Outstanding response!!
 
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