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Tires seem to have a very short shelf life now days. Dry rot and hardening are not a new thing obviously, but it sure seems like the shelf life is a whole lot shorter now days that what it was most of my life. Which makes me wonder. Do we just know more now? Or are they made differently now? Was it a change forced on them? (environmental reasons for example) Was it a changed that happened for financial reasons? (they just make them cheaper) Or was it intentional, for financial reasons? (forced obsolescence)
 
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cas6969 said:
Tires seem to have a very short shelf life now days. Dry rot and hardening are not a new thing obviously, but it sure seems like the shelf life is a whole lot shorter now days that what it was most of my life. Which makes me wonder. Do we just know more now? Or are the made differently now? Was it a a change forced on them? (environmental for example) Was it a changed that happened for financial reasons? (they just make them cheaper) Or was it intentional, for financial reasons? (forced obsolescence)
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Many things, tires included, have had their useful life span reduced by lawyers.

Thank you,
MrSmith
 
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7.62willdo said:
Wait……Hollywood tells us the 20-30 years after the collapse of civilization car‘s will be running around at 100mph+…….now don’t try to convince me Hollywood doesn’t know what their talking about…..
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...and fuel and batteries are still viable. Apparently, Prof Roy Hinkley passed along much of what he learned while a castaway.
 
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EddieNFL said:
...and fuel and batteries are still viable. Apparently, Prof Roy Hinkley passed along much of what he learned while a castaway.
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In Daylight's End it's been 3 years. Batteries can be charged still but fuel would definately be a problem. I don't know how long you realistically can get fuel to last with just stabilizer.

Diesel should be easier to get working if it's an old less fussy diesel. Motorcycles may be an easier bet. Old carbureted low compression bikes.
 
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slowworm said:
Here's another really awesome IOM TT onboard video.

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I so want to go see that race sometime. But it is an absolute circus and just getting a tent site is ridiculous.

So... going to watch on TV. I think Vintage LeMans might be more fun.

BTW, the 24 Hours of Daytona is absolutely the best race I ever went to. So much fun. No crowds. And great time of year to not be in New England.

Sirhr
 
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Charmingmander said:
In Daylight's End it's been 3 years. Batteries can be charged still but fuel would definately be a problem. I don't know how long you realistically can get fuel to last with just stabilizer.

Diesel should be easier to get working if it's an old less fussy diesel. Motorcycles may be an easier bet. Old carbureted low compression bikes.
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^ STA-BIL says up to two years. Diesel...not so sure. I've seen far more fuel issues with diesel than gas. Lots of RV owners are shocked when the engine doesn't start after six months and the tech tells them the tank needs to be drained and cleaned plus new filters. If you want to accelerate the process, use bio-diesel.
 
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EddieNFL said:
^ STA-BIL says up to two years. Diesel...not so sure. I've seen far more fuel issues with diesel than gas. Lots of RV owners are shocked when the engine doesn't start after six months and the tech tells them the tank needs to be drained and cleaned plus new filters. If you want to accelerate the process, use bio-diesel.
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Old diesels like a 12v Cummins or old humvee's etc with mechanical injection can run on shit like K2 from farm tanks for a long time. The fuel problems come from modern diesel engines that need low sulfur and have emissions tech.

Theoretically you can filter old gasoline or distil the water etc out of it and limp it along. But more modern cars won't like it due to lower octane rating over time. Suzuki DR650 could probably run for years tho lol.
 
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Which one of you is this?
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We were living the best of America and didn't even know it.
110 octane Chevron out of the white pump @$.63 a gallon.
Big block 440s pulled out of junkyard Imperials stuffed full of 12 1/2 TRW's and big Direct Connection camshafts.
906s reworked the best we could with the Direct Connection Battleship Springs.
8 inch torque converters pulled out of Chevy Vegas (would roll all the fins over after about every third pass) so show up at the dragstrip with a six pack of them (we later learned to cut the torque converter's open braze weld the fins).
A B&M Cheetah manual valve body with a B&M quick click shifter .


Get Dana 60 custom offset wide steel rims and axles here contact-dutchman-axles.html add a spool with 4:56s and a set of M/T slicks and front runners.

Pull up.
Line lock stall that engine until the carburetor was banging against the hood.


Smoke Winston cigarettes and drink Blitz beer.

Come on GEN Xers and Gen Xers children let's turn this all around let's make America a place for individuals of self governance.
 
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SONIC SAAMI said:

We were living the best of America and didn't even know it.
110 octane Chevron out of the white pump @$.63 a gallon.
Big block 440s pulled out of junkyard Imperials stuffed full of 12 1/2 TRW's and big Direct Connection camshafts.
906s reworked the best we could with the Direct Connection Battleship Springs.
8 inch torque converters pulled out of Chevy Vegas (would roll all the fins over after about every third pass) so show up at the dragstrip with a six pack of them (we later learned to cut the torque converter's open braze weld the fins).
A B&M Cheetah manual valve body with a B&M quick click shifter .


Get Dana 60 custom offset wide steel rims and axles here contact-dutchman-axles.html add a spool with 4:56s and a set of M/T slicks and front runners.

Pull up.
Line lock stall that engine until the carburetor was banging against the hood.


Smoke Winston cigarettes and drink Blitz beer.

Come on GEN Xers and Gen Xers children let's turn this all around let's make America a place for individuals of self governance.
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If only the bullet had been a two legged instead of just one!!!!! ( posies)
 
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fpgt72 said:
I love this car.....but then again I do like the orphans. I really enjoyed this video.

Got to talking about "unloved" cars, and told a story of a Chevette diesel I saw at a local car show not long ago, it was perfect. You just don't see them anymore and it was getting quite a bit of attn.

Seen one mustang you seen them all, but when was the last time you saw a perfect showroom fresh chevette. You know you would stop and look.

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You forgot the Cadillac 8-6-4.

Also known as the 8-6-4-Zero...

Sirhr
 
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cas6969 said:
Tires seem to have a very short shelf life now days. Dry rot and hardening are not a new thing obviously, but it sure seems like the shelf life is a whole lot shorter now days that what it was most of my life. Which makes me wonder. Do we just know more now? Or are they made differently now? Was it a change forced on them? (environmental reasons for example) Was it a changed that happened for financial reasons? (they just make them cheaper) Or was it intentional, for financial reasons? (forced obsolescence)
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No idea if reduced life of the rubber in tires was intentional or just because it was cheaper to make them the way they're made now, but it's definitely real. Last year we got one of my dad's old Norton's running and took turns doing a few test rides up and down the road on the original tires from 1973. The tubes held air and the tires had very little cracking. I took it up to about 70mph without any issues.
This year I pulled my mom's old 1983 Suzuki GR650 out to use as a cheap work commuter, and the tires were cracked like crazy and pretty rotten. They still had lots of tread and the bike has always been parked inside away from the sun, and those tires were only from 1997.
Kristian
 
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Cowpokey said:
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A guy I worked with had a mid 60s Ford Falcon wagon he drove every day. One day maybe 6 of us are standing around and ford guy makes to leave. Falcon won’t start. So he pops the hood to look. One of the younger guys says “I wonder what’s wrong?” 3 of us in unison say “That’s how you start a Ford”.

Ah…good times.
 
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EddieNFL said:
^ STA-BIL says up to two years. Diesel...not so sure. I've seen far more fuel issues with diesel than gas. Lots of RV owners are shocked when the engine doesn't start after six months and the tech tells them the tank needs to be drained and cleaned plus new filters. If you want to accelerate the process, use bio-diesel.
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THIS is the way to prevent that black death from stopping up your fuel system:
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Bio Kleen Diesel Fuel Biocide Treatment

This dual-phased biocide kills microbes in fuel, including bacteria and fungus. Use this to rid your diesel fuel system of microbial contamination.
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SONIC SAAMI said:

We were living the best of America and didn't even know it.
110 octane Chevron out of the white pump @$.63 a gallon.
Big block 440s pulled out of junkyard Imperials stuffed full of 12 1/2 TRW's and big Direct Connection camshafts.
906s reworked the best we could with the Direct Connection Battleship Springs.
8 inch torque converters pulled out of Chevy Vegas (would roll all the fins over after about every third pass) so show up at the dragstrip with a six pack of them (we later learned to cut the torque converter's open braze weld the fins).
A B&M Cheetah manual valve body with a B&M quick click shifter .


Get Dana 60 custom offset wide steel rims and axles here contact-dutchman-axles.html add a spool with 4:56s and a set of M/T slicks and front runners.

Pull up.
Line lock stall that engine until the carburetor was banging against the hood.


Smoke Winston cigarettes and drink Blitz beer.

Come on GEN Xers and Gen Xers children let's turn this all around let's make America a place for individuals of self governance.
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Preach Rev!
 
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