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What!! No more dancing in the streets like on Oct 7th , well how about that.
They should have LONG AGO turned on these impostors if they were anywhere near decent. Hamas snipers shooting at people trying to flee? Take a Hamas fighter hostage and march down the fucking street with a blade pressed directly into their necks. Two men to hold one hostage, one or two families shielding behind each set. The second an innocent person gets hit by fire one or more of their own comrades' heads will be coming off. Human shields work both ways when you are in a crowded, close proximity environment.
Most of the Gazans CONTINUED to support Hamas and cheer on the Oct 7 attacks right up until they have run out of food completely. And the ones who manage to end up in other countries will bring their terrorist supporting ideals with them.
Most of the Gazans CONTINUED to support Hamas and cheer on the Oct 7 attacks right up until they have run out of food completely. And the ones who manage to end up in other countries will bring their terrorist supporting ideals with them.
Sounds like they are just beginning to realize that the people they elect to represent them can bring them terrible consequences. Maybe one day we (as a country) will come to the same conclusion. Politics has been looked at as a team sport for waaaayyyy too long, with results ignored as long as "our team" wins.
Right now is the PERFECT time for Gazans to strike back if they want to really improve their living situation and remove themselves from the orbit of terrorism. The Hamas ruling infrastructure has been fractured into pieces by the airstrikes already.
All it takes is a few teams of guys to lure and ambush Hamas fighters, knife them to death and take their guns and RPGs. Distribute extra guns to others willing to act. Kill all militants on sight wearing Hamas gear. No mercy. Strip the bodies down, cut off their genitals and sew or stuff them into the corpses' mouths and then string them up from light poles. Just a couple of days of this and the North Gaza terrorist enclave will be OVER. Hell, even Israel would be impressed, not to mention everywhere else in the world watching this.
The mentality of most of them are beyond rectifying though. Even as they are starving and faced with the absolute destruction of their city, MOST of them still would rather see Israel continue getting harmed than looking out for their own sakes and interests.
All it takes is a few teams of guys to lure and ambush Hamas fighters, knife them to death and take their guns and RPGs. Distribute extra guns to others willing to act. Kill all militants on sight wearing Hamas gear. No mercy. Strip the bodies down, cut off their genitals and sew or stuff them into the corpses' mouths and then string them up from light poles. Just a couple of days of this and the North Gaza terrorist enclave will be OVER. Hell, even Israel would be impressed, not to mention everywhere else in the world watching this.
The mentality of most of them are beyond rectifying though. Even as they are starving and faced with the absolute destruction of their city, MOST of them still would rather see Israel continue getting harmed than looking out for their own sakes and interests.
Air drop food in the center of town at noon.
At 12:15, call for fire.....same coordinates..
At 12:15, call for fire.....same coordinates..
Never happen. This all Israel's fault. ...and always will be
Remember: victim mentality
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In total actuality, it is 'Israel's'...'Fault'...because they knew with 100% certainty that moving to Gaza would be a bone of contention for the whole Islamic world. Yet, for reasons long discussed, yet to me still not sufficient, they chose to place themselves there.
KNOWING IT WOULD CAUSE HUGE CONFLICT.
Right, wrong, or other, and I'm not judging that, there's no way its not on them.
What if you and I and some Jewish investors went into the middle of Mogadishu an set up a a shop selling Kosher stuff, what do you think would happen. Whose 'fault' would our beheadings be.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
FAFO
Action and reaction.
How are you willing to disregard the idea that their history there is millenia older than Islam itself?
Also, it's theirs if they can keep it. That's what they are doing now. Islam is at war with all other religions, and Christians and jews want to keep turning the other cheek. I say give them the war they want. They are the most pathetic martial group on the planet, totally unsuited for war. If they weren't brainwashed from birth to believe fanatically in Islam, they wouldn't squash a grape in a fruit fight.
OK. This was regarding an earlier post saying that "The Gazans blame Israel for this."
I wasnt talking about the 'WHY' this is happening. I'm speaking of who's responsible for it, where should the blame lie. I've found it helpful to reduce things to the LCD, lowest common denominator. Sometime make them personal and close to home.
1-Leaving all history out, if your family had lived on some land for generations, and one day a bunch of rich people showed up with lots of guns, and took your land and had no legal recourse? HOW WOULD YOU REACT? You'd be furious and raise hell. Until they killed you over it.
2-The British Jews KNEW that their going to 'Palestine' or what ever you choose to called would provoke thousand year old problems. Yet they chose to do it anyway. Whose responsible for the turmoil? They are.
3-You and I open that Kosher store in Moga and get beheaded. Whose responsible? We are
4-You jump into an alligator pit and get eaten. Whose responsible? You are.
THats just de emotionalizing the subject and applying logic and reason.
I see. I understand your point, but wouldn't it also be fair to say that the reason the jews were almost entirely displaced from that area in the 25 years prior to WWII is because the Muslims kept killing and persecuting them until they were scattered worldwide? Applying your logic, it is only the fault of the jews if you pretend this conflict started at 1953. Obviously it didn't.
cannot be true because white house spokesman said un is "on the ground" to ensure fair distribution of humanitarian aid.
Dude! You keep bringing history into the discussion. How silly.
History starts when I say it starts to best support the point I want to make.
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I wasnt aware of that expulsion, link?
To reply to that I have to bring up a bit of ancient history.
They were exiled from that land by their God some 2500 years ago "never to be an earthly nation again until the coming of the Christ (they dont believe Jesus is the messiah) and to be a peculiar people living amongst the nations of the earth." Paraphrased If you accept the Bible as a book of the history of the Jews, thats history, not religion.
Beyond that read the ensuing link about the various expulsions of the Jews, and ask you self one question. Why ? Why has this one group of people been expelled from nearly every place they went? That is not condemnation, nor judgement, nor anti semitic. It's just a question. I have an opinion but thats all it is.
Edit to add, of course a lot of the earlier times were just tribal wars and being 'taken into captivity" The true expulsions stated a bit later.
en.wikipedia.org › Expulsions_and_exoduses_of_JewsExpulsions and exoduses of Jews - Wikipedia
v t e This article lists expulsions, refugee crises and other forms of displacement that have affected Jews . Timeline This list is incomplete; you can help by adding missing items. (March 2018) The
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NO, its trying to isolate incidents to examine them outside of the contemporary box.Dude! You keep bringing history into the discussion. How silly.
History starts when I say it starts to best support the point I want to make.
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Or perhaps examining a reel of film one pic at a time to get in depth info, then trying to piece the whole thing together ligically.
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They'll be fighting the Chinese because they'll control most of it by 2030.
Yep.. Not particularly bad, like tenth of Sweden, but hell yes I know what I am talking about.
So, look at things in a vacuum?
Like that scene in Pulp Fiction where that guy in the leather jacket breaks into the other guy's house and shoots him with his own gun when he comes out of the toilet? Clearly the house belonged to the guy in the tie because he was there first and using the shitter when the other guy came in.
Where's Simo Hayha when you need him?
I dont know about that scene.
I think it more of looking at all the individual parts separately, then working to put the situation together with an un biased view.? Remember Sgt. Joe Friday? "Just the facts, m'am."
Waiting to be awakened! And by that, for the slow people, I mean ordinary men that have had enough.
Too late.
Let them deal with the Hamas terrorists they voted for, supported and danced with... in Paradise.
What a crock... they will be much more awake when they are dead and rotting. Pour encourager les autres!
Sirhr
Let them deal with the Hamas terrorists they voted for, supported and danced with... in Paradise.
What a crock... they will be much more awake when they are dead and rotting. Pour encourager les autres!
Sirhr
If you go back far enough you'd get to Pangia, a supercontinent, where everyone "shared" the same piece of land. So no one and everyone has claim to all lands now. In reality, who owns what when is purely dependent on who is strong enough to own it at that point in time.
Sure, but Joe and Bill were interested in gathering all the facts before deciding who shoulda left who alone.
DSNWBN is difficult to apply to a situation when things were already started.
Maybe you didn't examine deep enough and the guy jumping into that alligator pit was just trying to clean it because it was his turn and the reason he got eaten was because the guy responsible for locking the gate didn't do it.
That would make the people in all 4 of your parables a clean sweep of victims.
LCD == victimhood
Obviously you are taking a very short view of history. Palestine goes back to the old testament times. The philistines. Israel and this group have been at war for a long time.
Question should the Native American Indians go terrorist on modern day Americans. By your logic, they would coming off the reservations and attacking nearby towns.
I respectfully disagree with your logic.
As is America and yet still no accountability. Maybe there isn’t gonna be an awakening after all.
Not a valid comparison.
My example stressed that he did it knowing and with free will, just like the Jews took the land knowing it would cause massive turmoil and of their own free will.
LCD = going back to the simplest explanation for the situation. 8-4-2-1. So go back to when the situation originated.
So one could say it started when A & E ate the apple, and that would be accurate, and the reason for all troubles and suffering, but I'm speaking of the more immediate problem between the Muzzies and Jews.
I've pretty much traced it back and the origin(s) seem clear if youre willing to look at them with an unbiased mind.. I posted them awhile back in another thread.
This is why I demand reparations from the British for Culloden. My ancestors were treated badly there... and in subsequent generations.
I should get to loot Harrods and the Barbour Store... Along with Holland and Holland now that I mention it.
Oh wait... my ancestors had white privilege, so we don't get to loot anything. Just sit around being all pasty and having to work for a living, pay taxes and support LBFM's.
Sirhr
Its America, you have every right and even obligation to disagree if you feel I'm in error. That doesnt make you right, LOL.
We're not talking about Native Americans, entirely different story,
My view goes back to what I determine is the root of the problem we're discussing.
And thats where the problem we're discussing originated, with the Patriarch, Abraham.
Dang yo, it's been a long time since I've been in school, there's two Pangias now?
Hey, if they had gotten off their lazy asses and invented the Gatling Gun, we'd be running the casino's and living in reservatons.
But, they didn't! Motivated pasty people did.
And the rest, as they say, is history.
Sirhr
There's been at least 2, probably 4 supercontinents... Depending on how the drift worked.
Sirhr
Your example included nothing about foreknowledge on his part of said pit being populated with alligators. Simply that he jumped into an alligator pit. Sure, you stated he jumped into the pit which implies free will as opposed to being shoved into the pit. But it's no different than saying "he stuck his hand in a hornet's nest" or "he jumped into the shark tank".
It's the details that matter.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not aware this event and all it entails was established as fact.
Well technically there has never been a Pangia ... only one Pangea but maybe a Gondwana and a couple three others.
Hold on now...
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And if Ham ass had gotten off theirs and invented atomic weapons....
As much as I worship a hot shower in the morning, and a toilet that takes my nasties away, Im not convinced what we've created and what we're facing as fundamentally a great improvement, really.
Well, except for the whole Enlightenment, Rousseau, John Locke, natural rights, Western Civilization, that kind of stuff.
Largely thats knowledge, and I'll grant that knowledge is power. But as I've often said, and foot note if you quote, "Knowledge without wisdom is folly." Look at the world today, we're approaching the brink of WWII, and likely the last one.
Were they perfect, nope only Christ is credited with that, but as far as natural rights, the NA had far more than we do.
No taxes, No ATF. NO DEA., No NSA. Came and went as they pleased, didnt need a passport, or @wade2big 's statist to get a hunting license so you can harvest food.
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