$50.00 an hour minimum wage ......what could go wrong?
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Sure if you want gas to cost $26/gal , eggs $25/ doz You can’t cheat economic law
That means they want every “meal deal” at McDonalds or Taco Bell to be $50 also. Because if you look - the meal deals and minimum wage pretty much go hand in hand.
This proves my point that describing a socialist economist is an oxymoronic statement. You can be one or the other but not both.
These pieces of shit want equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity. They want their pathetic, shitty lives to be equal to people that have worked to make something of themselves. There are a waste of genetic materials and a complete drain on society.
Slow learners, Lol.
They'll sell it to the dolts again.
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Why stop at $50/hour?
At that point everyone with any sort of job should just make a flat $250,000 a year, even part time
Leave that shitty $50/hour for the welfare people and illegals that don't have jobs
At that point everyone with any sort of job should just make a flat $250,000 a year, even part time
Leave that shitty $50/hour for the welfare people and illegals that don't have jobs
i think the price of a big mac meal and an apple pie is going to be roughly the hourly wage where it is bought.
Apparently you’ve never bought a Big Mac in Hawaii where everybody lives in trailer houses.
same thing in the very expensive FL keys. jobs are all service and low pay. don't know how anyone can afford living there if just 1 job,even 2. this applies to the early 2Ks haven;t been there since like 10/12. can't think it's much dif now.
hawaii may be a bit different because of the cost of shipping (even a box of cereal is expensive, comparatively, isn't it?).
how much are they?
around here it is ~$15 for a big mac meal and apple pie.
You guys have it all wrong. It isn’t about a job that they have no intention of getting. This is merely another way to say “give me more free shit”.
If the cost of living goes up the welfare goes up. See how this works? And before someone says it, no, they have no idea how economics works and how bad this scenario screws them.
If the cost of living goes up the welfare goes up. See how this works? And before someone says it, no, they have no idea how economics works and how bad this scenario screws them.
I have determined that either from birth or some kind of mind virus, socialists are, in fact, incapable of adding one and one and have it equal two. I am not exaggerating or joking.
There is something pathologically wrong. Somehow, the DNA is different or changing similar to how a virus mutates.
michael savage already and always said and wrote that liberalism was a mental disorder. there is some sort of brain/mental gap in these people. they can be shown plain facts backed by overwhelming evidence and deny them when inconsistent with their wishful thinking world view. weird and scary. this has caused massive loss of resources and lives in the last 150+ or so years.
I have done some honest thought on this very thing. I think it comes down to jealousy, poor education and hopelessness in their ability to affect change that turns into protest if anyone will listen.
When I grew up, nobody listened because everyone was in the same state. And we all got our asses up and went to work. Now its different. Because of social programs nobody has to really work unless they want more than what Uncle Sam offers. LBJ screwed the nation. Dry.
but then everyone sees these influencers and think they have gotten shafted - nope. Those who make videos lie. Those who make money WORK and sacrifice time, hours, family time. Not because it is fun, but because it is necessary and in some cases because you gotta ride the horse you saddled. That’s just reality.
You are not going to get a grown man who has sacrificed his life (and his wife who has sacrificed too) to give two shits about your bellyaching about being poor when you have done jack shit to improve yourself. Thems the facts.
If a man who is uneducated who has a good work ethic and is moral walks through the door he will have a job. Those who want to sit in the shitter or collect welfare can pound sand.
Too frank? Tough shit.
it is worse than that. it's gone so far now, they look at anyone who doesnt buy into their madness as "science deniers" with their slogan "trust the science". as we know, it isnt actual science at all.
leave Frank out of this.
Here is another perspective from a socialist country. Socialism there is in effect for about 20 years now. When I entered the job market back in the early 2000s, the monthly income was around 14'000 USD for an experienced (10years+) engineer in the tech industry. As a matter of facts, I was training with people who earned even more, were living in nice houses, had kids/wife, very stable life. When I was studying/training with them that was definitively a good reference point for young people like me.
In a matter of a few years, the income in the industry went down to 12'000, then 10'000, then 8'000 for the exact same f*king job. Most people I known that were in good position gradually lost their jobs, had to relocate, divorced, lost an important part of their income. How? They poured the country with cheap workforces. That's right. You now have competing foreign workers who earn 6'000 per month to supposedly do the same high-value job. The quality of work of course go down as well...
At the same time, the low-skills jobs went UP, increasing the cost of basic services. You want to eat at a dinner/restaurant, that's 80% more. It's totally up-side down what was life back then, only 20 years ago. We have reached a point where the income flattened to a standard hourly value where there is no more distinction between what kind of job you do and how hard or demanding it is. In short, you no longer earn money according to the figure of merit.
If you go the welfare route, in the long run, you are at the exact same point as someone who work. Maybe you can even save more free money down the route and work the system. Cloward–Piven strategy in full effect.
In a matter of a few years, the income in the industry went down to 12'000, then 10'000, then 8'000 for the exact same f*king job. Most people I known that were in good position gradually lost their jobs, had to relocate, divorced, lost an important part of their income. How? They poured the country with cheap workforces. That's right. You now have competing foreign workers who earn 6'000 per month to supposedly do the same high-value job. The quality of work of course go down as well...
At the same time, the low-skills jobs went UP, increasing the cost of basic services. You want to eat at a dinner/restaurant, that's 80% more. It's totally up-side down what was life back then, only 20 years ago. We have reached a point where the income flattened to a standard hourly value where there is no more distinction between what kind of job you do and how hard or demanding it is. In short, you no longer earn money according to the figure of merit.
If you go the welfare route, in the long run, you are at the exact same point as someone who work. Maybe you can even save more free money down the route and work the system. Cloward–Piven strategy in full effect.
Our Walmart still has the same amount of checkers it did before self checkout. The lines are just shorter in the check out lanes.
I'm quite happy for you that your local economy doesn't reflect how things are everywhere else.....
Now can you share some of that good fortune please?
There is a major difference between market forces driving wages, that is, employers having to offer more money because labor is in short supply, which is simple economics at work, supply and demand, versus the government dictating a certain wage.
The simple reality is that some jobs are not worth more than a certain amount to a certain employer.
Let's take a look at this with a simple example.
Centralized planning
If you want your grass cut, and you do not feel like doing it yourself, then you might pay 50 or 100 bucks to have somebody else do it. If the government comes along and tells you that you must pay $500, or you will be thrown in jail, then you are not going to hire anybody at all. You will simply do it yourself or let your grass grow tall. that means that the guy who wanted your 100 bucks now gets nothing. You do not get your grass cut. Everybody is worse off.
The Market
If there is so much work that grass cutters are getting 500 bucks, however, because lots of folks want their grass cut and have bid up the price to that level, the situation is very different. You still may not want to pay that, and have to cut your grass yourself, but the guy who wants to earn money cutting grass is still working and earning, and the folks he is servicing are all better off, since they value the work more than the 500 bucks. Everybody wins.
The market v. centralized planning.
When people get all huffed up about minimum wage. They are usually ignoring inflation. Now for example. People want to blame the rising cost of goods on minimum wage. The problem is with inflation. The wages paid to make said product are a smaller percentage of the total price of said product that it was at the lower cost in 2020 or 2005. Yes, you are getting fleeced out of your money, but it's not McDonald's and Walmart employees doing it. It's those guys turning in record profits and those guys sending your money to Isreal and Ukraine.
You cannot isolate one part of the equation from the other.
A rising tide floats all boats.
True, we cannot directly blame the average Joe of the inflation. I would do however an exception if this specific Joe has voted or supported in some way or another a system that is generating constant inflation. I don't know about McDonald's but in some industries, the incomes are a important part of your costs, exceeding 70%. So if you have to rise the incomes, you have to mechanically increase your prices to the customers. That's not greed, that's reality for a lot of small businesses.
I don't touch the crap at Mcdump so go ahead and go for it. since the stupid only eat that crap that they love to see you smile while you strain to let it all out in toilet right after gulping that shit.
Not what I said at all. I bet your Walmart and McDonald's have the same amount of empyees they did before, if not more. Low paying part time jobs are not the jobs disappearing. And a multimillion dollar machine is about as likely to replace those workers as electric cars are to replace gas.
20k per year empyees dont make a million dollars in 20 years. Most machines don't last 20 years. We are long past the point of out arguing the inevitable. We should be long past point of people wondering why politicians and news agencies make such a public spectacle of arguing over it. To point where online posters have bullet point presentations about it. While everyone was in huff over the pet tax here in CO they quietly moved two anti 2nd bills out of commity to vote on.
I think the rich have always tried to pit the poor against the poor. What better group to be a scapegoat than the smallest segment of the workforce. Minimum wage employees. Yes mam your mcgangbang is 20 dollars because of Joe blow with a liberal arts degree making 20 an hour. Please ignore our record profits record inflation record illegal immagration record money printed record corruption record collusion. Nope its the smallest lowest paid segment of the workforce. Ok
I always figure people who take the time to virtue signal about not eating it, proabaly eat there 4 or 5 times per week.
I bet you are stuffing a mcphish greedily into your McPiehole while whilst typing with what ever other misformed hoof like apendage you have.
$9.61 per hour, 40 hour week, 52 weeks = $20,000
Do persons really stay at that level for two decades? I'd think if somebody worked for me who reliably showed up on time and did his job and learned to do it well, producing income for me, that he would eventually be worth more than that.
I have had times in my life when I earned less than that, but I never intended to stay there. It was temporary.
There are always two sides to every transaction. If someone is willing to pay the MacDonald's prices that is their decision, the same way it is for others to reject the prices and go somewhere else. It is also McDonald's (and their franchisees) decision on what to charge for food. The market will tell McDonald's where they need to be price-wise, especially when there are cheaper alternatives like eating at home.
The thing few seem want to acknowledge is that it isn't just the retail prices that are increasing, it is the encumbrance of other costs - increased insurance, vehicle/home maintenance, gas, food, LOANS of all types, etc. Those increases that have to be met will push on other buying decisions. It won't only be McDonald's in the retails sector that are going to have to come to terms with this, it's all companies. And it is also the consumer who has to figure out how to make it all work. Inflation doesn't go away until there is deflation (very bad), but people seem to think that when the Fed says inflation is decreasing that it means it is going away instead of what it is actually doing - increasing at a lower annual rate.
I say this because the CEO of McDonald's seems to be starting to recognize the trend and implications.
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The thing few seem want to acknowledge is that it isn't just the retail prices that are increasing, it is the encumbrance of other costs - increased insurance, vehicle/home maintenance, gas, food, LOANS of all types, etc. Those increases that have to be met will push on other buying decisions. It won't only be McDonald's in the retails sector that are going to have to come to terms with this, it's all companies. And it is also the consumer who has to figure out how to make it all work. Inflation doesn't go away until there is deflation (very bad), but people seem to think that when the Fed says inflation is decreasing that it means it is going away instead of what it is actually doing - increasing at a lower annual rate.
I say this because the CEO of McDonald's seems to be starting to recognize the trend and implications.
$18 combo meal! After price criticism McDonalds CEO vows to cut prices
McDonald's faces backlash as rising menu prices spark customer outrage. CEO Chris Kempczinski addresses concerns.
The local Taco Bell to me is now using AI for the drive through ordering. It's super annoying, but it seems to be very accurate. At the window is some moron that can barely read that just hands you the food and takes payment. Long gone are the days of high school kids working jobs like fast food.
Ok shitI always figure people who take the time to virtue signal about not eating it, proabaly eat there 4 or 5 times per week.
I bet you are stuffing a mcphish greedily into your McPiehole while whilst typing with what ever other misformed hoof like apendage you have.
eater.Yeh you prolly got enough green slime preservative they put on their hamburger patties in your system that dissolved your brain cells to be on the same level those welfare boys that work there. Did some service work on the commercial side to these restuarants so I'll pass and eat real food so.
they closed a bunch of them. the one near me was replaced by The Habit burger grill.I just realized no one mentions burger king. OMG! Imagine what works there. How does BK stay in business?
i was never a fan, but i think at least they were relatively cheap.
