Shots Fired At President Trump's Butler PA Rally!

[Bullfrog08]

Lets get some conspiracy theories rolling, since 2020 , conspiracies turning out to be hard facts is only a matter of months

Issues:
Elevation: He states levels on bleachers are 1.5' elevation difference....wrong. By code a step can only be about 7.5". Call it 8" if you want. He say 15' high bleacher + 6' tall man = bullet traveling up, is incorrect. You know why you cant see over a tall person while sitting in bleachers, it's because height difference is only 7.5". Standard bleacher=15 rows. 15 x 7.5" = 112" + first row seat is 1.5 ' high, so add 10.5", puts us at about 10'. 6' guy standing - 1.5'(bleacher seat hieght) = 4.5 '. Guy hit is maybe 14.5' above grade. If flat grade, that is about equal to roof peak, but probably lower.

Sound differences: The only stationary audio is the stage microphone. A person holding their phone is going to be following their head. Audio noise is going to sound different as soon as person turns looking for shooter, because phone will also turn with head.

Negating these simple facts....I will go ahead and ignore the rest.

 

[terrygood]

Lets get some conspiracy theories rolling, since 2020 , conspiracies turning out to be hard facts is only a matter of months

Shots 1,2,3,6 are from assasin #1 AR-15 with suppressor. First rd pop with suppressor is why the echo is off?
Shots 4,5,7,8 are from Crooks
Shots 9,10 are from counter snipers

Assasin #1 is located inside a room and shooting from back wall?

Assasin #1 was probably the real deal and Crooks was the Patsy?

 

[Rocketvapor]

I wonder what the internal floor plan of the 2nd floor looks like.

 

[232593]

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[cas6969]

I'd like to see the Home Depot security footage.

 

[dankcincy]

 

[dankcincy]

...just odd that they would purposely misrepresent his location. What’s the motive for showing it in the wrong spot?

At this stage in the game you still think it's odd that the media feeds the public bullshit...Really?
Quick primer for those not paying attention...
If it comes from legacy media, a politician, or any alphabet agency...
It's most likely bullshit.
Hell, I question most independent media at this point.

 

[TexPatriot]

Shots 1,2,3,6 are from assasin #1 AR-15 with suppressor. First rd pop with suppressor is why the echo is off?
Shots 4,5,7,8 are from Crooks
Shots 9,10 are from counter snipers

Assasin #1 is located inside a room and shooting from back wall?

Assasin #1 was probably the real deal and Crooks was the Patsy?

I was following along fine with the idea of a second shooter underneath Crooks in the same building but at the end he says the first 3 muffled shots with no echo were "further away."

How are the first 3 shots "further away?" They were just shot from a lower elevation.

 

[doubloon]

I wonder what the internal floor plan of the 2nd floor looks like.

Has anyone tried to draw a line between the allegedly open window and the podium to see if the 2nd shooter had a clear shot or if he was a 1337 bullet bender?

ETA: I just want to add I think this is the first image of the fairground I have submitted here with lines I scribbled on it myself and I want to say I feel truly privileged and grateful to have this opportunity to join the ranks of all the 1337 ballisticians who have preceded me.

 

[LRRPF52]

At this stage in the game you still think it's odd that the media feeds the public bullshit...Really?
Quick primer for those not paying attention...
If it comes from legacy media, a politician, or any alphabet agency...
It's most likely bullshit.
Hell, I question most independent media at this point.

I’ve never trusted the media, not in 50 years. Why? Because they always misrepresented and bumbled things I was intimately familiar with. I have never had respect for corporate media because they are habitually incompetent or biased. I feel the same about most “independent media” as well, so I think we’re on the same sheet.

I’m also keen to corporate legacy media trying to re-brand and shift into the internet media space, propping up all kinds of podcasts and channels that originally had “genuine-feel” content. We know the stench of their stank so well, that none of them pass the smell test for me.

Notice how many of them are bundling the same excrement ads, whether it be scrot-shavers, bitcoin, gold, and mass-produced Chicom goods targeting whatever market appeal is brought to the particular channel. It’s all fake, hype, typical aggregate data-generated sales trash I want nothing to do with.

At this point, I’m more and more inclined to wanting to be part of a community that destroys all its phones, PCs, and just lives in a digitech-free township somewhere like the Amish.

 

[cas6969]

Until someone stands on the stage and confirms you can even see the window over the peak of the roof.....

 

[Californio]

The Beaver Countian and its only reporter is the sole source of all the information the MSM is putting out, local LE is feeding him and he is passing it. It sure looks like local LE is not going to allow the Feds to stick the blame to them. This mess just stinks of a bumbling Banana Republic.

 

[dankcincy]

At this point, I’m more and more inclined to wanting to be part of a community that destroys all its phones, PCs, and just lives in a digitech-free township somewhere like the Amish.

Right there with you.
There are barely inhabitated islands out in the middle of nowhere that if I were 25yrs younger, I would be seriously considering as an option.

 

[LRRPF52]

Regardless of what possibilities emerge from multiple vs single shooter, it is undeniable that SS should have never allowed Trump to walk out onto the X. There are no 2 ways about that. So the question then is, “Why did they?"

 

[dankcincy]

Has anyone tried to draw a line between the allegedly open window and the podium to see if the 2nd shooter had a clear shot or if he was a 1337 bullet bender?

I'm thinking this big bitch might be in the way.
Besides that, it wouldn't track with the locations of the victims/impacts.

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[doubloon]

I'm thinking this big bitch might be in the way.
Besides that, it wouldn't track with the locations of the victims/impacts.

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Yeah, to @cas6969 's point this isn't fact unless somebody might actually put eyes on it

But based on most of the posts here facts are optional

 

[UKDslayer]

Has anyone tried to draw a line between the allegedly open window and the podium to see if the 2nd shooter had a clear shot or if he was a 1337 bullet bender?

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If you look at Josh Hawley's video, at 0:18 you can definitely see the second window would have if anything a shot directly over the roof but unobstructed by any trees etc.

 

[dankcincy]

Until someone stands on the stage and confirms you can even see the window over the peak of the roof.....

This is from the stands where Corey was hit. It's lower so I can only assume with the stage being higher, and the angle being different, you would be able to see the stage over the peak.

 

[UKDslayer]

Yeah, to @cas6969 's point this isn't fact unless somebody might actually put eyes on it

And nobody will ever be able to reproduce or replicate any theories between now and election day; even the water tower access and all adjacent areas are tightly closed down by feds police forces.

 

[doubloon]

This is from the stands where Corey was hit. It's lower so I can only assume with the stage being higher, and the angle being different, you would be able to see the stage over the peak.

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I can see a small portion of the top of the window, not the whole window. Maybe a foot?

Assuming normal-ish window/floor heights the indoor sniper would have to be up on a platform inside the room to be able to shoot from the top of the window down over the building.

 

[UKDslayer]

 

[Rocketvapor]

Now that the location of the body has been settled, but not if he was actually the shooter
How about the two other little details that have a forked truth;
Sonata or Van,
and
Parents called before or after?

 

[Maser]

Don't think I've ever seen Brandon fire an AR. Hopefully he stays true to the AK platform.

 

[dankcincy]

I can see a small portion of the top of the window, not the whole window. Maybe a foot?

Assuming normal-ish window/floor heights the indoor sniper would have to be up on a platform inside the room to be able to shoot from the top of the window down over the building.

Gotta figure that stage is about 4' off the ground, another 6'+ to his head.
The the pic is taken from probably something like 5 1/2' off the ground.
Reckon you gotta add around 5' elevation so that would expose way more of the window to the stage.
I don't know if they are talking about the 5th or 6th window from the left. The 6th is hidden behind what I think is the exhaust of that machine, the 3rd is behind the tree.

 

[37L1]

Gotta figure that stage is about 4' off the ground, another 6'+ to his head.
The the pic is taken from probably something like 5 1/2' off the ground.
Reckon you gotta add around 5' elevation so that would expose way more of the window to the stage.
I don't know if they are talking about the 5th or 6th window from the left. The 6th is hidden behind what I think is the exhaust if that machine, the 3rd is behind the tree.

Oh, FFS. . .

 

[dankcincy]

Oh, FFS. . .

The question was asked.

 

[Ronws]

I’ve never trusted the media, not in 50 years. Why? Because they always misrepresented and bumbled things I was intimately familiar with. I have never had respect for corporate media because they are habitually incompetent or biased. I feel the same about most “independent media” as well, so I think we’re on the same sheet.

My favorite author, Heinlein, and his second wife, Virginia, travelled a lot. And she was fluent in russian. So, they could get to places most westerners could not because she could blend in.

8 different events that made the news nationally and internationally that they were at and there was also a reporter from Time Magazine found that not one single time did the published "story" equal what actually happened.

What media does is lie. "Journalistic integrity" is a tool in fiction. And even fictional characters are spinning stories, AKA, lying.

 

[Rocketvapor]

Bet the second floor window had a good view of the 1st floor roof.

 

[dankcincy]

Bet the second floor window had a good view of the 1st floor roof.

No doubt

 

[232593]

 

[pmclaine]

 

[mosin46]

How many liberal heads are going to explode when the bandage comes off and his ear looks like nothing happened?
I mean....the man does have access to the best plastic surgeons on the planet.

yes and repairing an earlobe like that is not as foolproof as many might think. seen it myself and had a plastics guy i went to HS with explain it to me.

 

[theLBC]

so i heard the lady taking pictures with her phone is just a regular person and not some assistant director of anything.

 

[theLBC]

 

[mosin46]

I’ve never trusted the media, not in 50 years. Why? Because they always misrepresented and bumbled things I was intimately familiar with. I have never had respect for corporate media because they are habitually incompetent or biased. I feel the same about most “independent media” as well, so I think we’re on the same sheet.

I’m also keen to corporate legacy media trying to re-brand and shift into the internet media space, propping up all kinds of podcasts and channels that originally had “genuine-feel” content. We know the stench of their stank so well, that none of them pass the smell test for me.

Notice how many of them are bundling the same excrement ads, whether it be scrot-shavers, bitcoin, gold, and mass-produced Chicom goods targeting whatever market appeal is brought to the particular channel. It’s all fake, hype, typical aggregate data-generated sales trash I want nothing to do with.

At this point, I’m more and more inclined to wanting to be part of a community that destroys all its phones, PCs, and just lives in a digitech-free township somewhere like the Amish.

if you figure out a digital free process,please post it. i am trying to do so. as much as i detest the digital world,here i am. trying to avoid it is possible . leaving it altogether is another story. we have all been tricked or coerced into dependence on it over the last 25 or so years.

 

[mosin46]

Regardless of what possibilities emerge from multiple vs single shooter, it is undeniable that SS should have never allowed Trump to walk out onto the X. There are no 2 ways about that. So the question then is, “Why did they?"

my suspicion is incompetence,low motivation & connivance which came from the top.

 

[Expert684]

1 in 3 Democrats believe Trump faked assassination attempt. I talked to one

In a Liberty, Ohio, Italian restaurant, Fox News Digital columnist David Marcus meets a Democrat who believes Trump staged an assassination attempt on him. And who can blame a follower of liberal media for embracing the theory?

www.foxnews.com

If Donald Trump is elected, he needs to dismantle the Democratic party and purge RINOS. Liberal lunatics need to go!

 

[mosin46]

Don't think I've ever seen Brandon fire an AR. Hopefully he stays true to the AK platform.

be interesting to know FS what SS shot? a special BH load i think? pics of the dead guy are interesting as damage is minimal compared to what i would expect. have taken care of several big head traumas. no GSWs. all were auto or blunt object. so,no hands on eyes on experience.

 

[jakelly]

 

[FourT6and2]

So the USSS shot was “one-in-a-million” due to an “obstructed view” of the shooter. I guess it was the roof slope and the shooter had VERY little sky-lining.

So a 20yr old snaps off a few rounds, gets a hit (not a kill shot)…..and EVERYONE is saying he wasn’t the best shot or didn’t know what he was doing????? I’ll add to it they are saying he was RUSHED to shoot as the LEO spotted him, the shooter pointed the rifle at the LEO (by LEO admission).

Man….talk about dodging a bullet. We just can’t see HOW close this was to a REALLY bad election cycle for the USA.

I saw the "one in a million" comment somewhere else and laughed. Not even "one in a hundred". Team 3 was what... 400 yards away? Obstructed target was maybe 4-6"? 1-1.5 MOA shouldn't be difficult at 400 yards, give or take. Sure... under stress and all that, but I'm still rolling my eyes at the one-in-a-million thing

 

[dankcincy]

...was to a REALLY bad election cycle for the USA.

One candidate that won the primary for their party is being ousted and they're trying to kill the other one.

Yeah....bad election cycle is one way of putting it.

 

[mosin46]

monroe's death,a bit OT but similar area.
suicide or accident or murder?
i lean toward accident as i believe the cia or fbi did jfk. so,if they had him for his many affairs,which they could have through the ss,they had no need to kill him. just put that all out during the '64 campaign and he was toast. america was still traditional at the time. was not the clinton era.
if she was murdered,easy to believe,then i suspect kennedy supporter involvement. J or B? don't like to think they made that call but that might be nieve. monroe was a liability to several groups and she was a ditz. so,who knows now?
i sort of think dulles had jfk hit in revenge for his being dissed over bay of pigs. wouldn't likely be the 1st murder he set up.

 

[Rocketvapor]

Someone has an inventory of LEO/SS shots fired from "official" weapons.
Weapons confiscated, brass collected when found.
Even brass from "the shooter" should be easy to find and count.
We can guess, someone KNOWS.
When they tell us, will it be the truth?

 

[doubloon]

When they tell us

Soon.

But it will look like this.

 

[Rocketvapor]

Came up at A Crawled from A to B,
Was dragged by LEO from A to B.
Came up at B.
???

 

[Rocketvapor]

Media prefers this spot for shooter.

WHY? Because they be SMART.
He would be in clear view to every sniper, regardless of position.

Clear shot from team 1, 2, 3, 4, even ground LEO.

Design your "Facts" to allow/promote conspiracy.

 

[ObiJohn]

I'm thinking this big bitch might be in the way.
Besides that, it wouldn't track with the locations of the victims/impacts.

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Draw a line that connects the victims on right and left sides and trace it back to the AGR building. It goes to where Crooks was shot. So much for the two shooters theory.

 

[ObiJohn]

Media prefers this spot for shooter.
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WHY? Because they be SMART.
He would be in clear view to every sniper, regardless of position.

Clear shot from team 1, 2, 3, 4, even ground LEO.

Design your "Facts" to allow/promote conspiracy.

The smudge on the right side of this image is where the shooter's body ended up. Not where the media prefers.