What do you think about them getting him on a day when he didn't have his security detail?I don’t see a profession hit.
I see either a guy who took the hit very seriously.
Or a professional hit, specifically made to look like a non pro hit.
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What do you think about them getting him on a day when he didn't have his security detail?I don’t see a profession hit.
I see either a guy who took the hit very seriously.
Or a professional hit, specifically made to look like a non pro hit.
You forgotThis thread is a Rorschach Ink Blot of a public killing.
“He was a pro!”
“He was a disgruntled employee!”
“He was Antifa! Look at his clothing!”
“He wore black, hooray, lots of people wear black!”
Some of y’all have never met a conspiracy theory that you didn’t enjoy.
My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.
-Stan
I'm guessing that his was not bought from a reputable company.I shoot nothing but subs with 2 different Glocks and an Obsidian 45. Cycling is not an issue.
Sounds like something a coward would say. But okay.Irrelevant. (ETA: Not doing your job and taking shortcuts to avoid personal risk is not comparable to doing your job in the most efficient and risk mitigating manner.)
They can recognize your gait now.You can't recognize a face in which not enough features are visible. Shades, facemasks, makeup, ballcaps, etc used in combination are cheap tools that defeat AI FR.
Are you blind ?Envy right there.
I am still waiting for some one some how injecting a 6 MM into the mix
A buddy of mine is quoted in the article on the 'mechanics' of the hit. .
Murder at Dawn: A Top Executive’s Final Moments in Manhattan
UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot dead Wednesday in what police say was a targeted attack
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/united-healthcare-ceo-killed-what-happened-33cf8452?mod=e2tw
Sirhr
The weapon that the shooter used does not look like a VP9. Watch the first video and notice the hand movements to rotate and unlock the bolt. Then look at the surveillance video as the shooter reaches over the top of the pistol to pull the slide back.
The shooter was obviously familiar with shooting a pistol but, IMHO, he probably didn't have the Nielsen device sufficiently lubricated to allow the suppressor to move forward from the gas pressure then slap back with the spring to unlock the barrel.
On the other hand he may have used a suppressor without the Nielsen device, knowing that he would have to manually cycle the slide.
Watch the next video in slow motion. Also recall that the article said that police found three empty cases and three live rounds at the scene.
When the shooter comes in view, he appears to be making sure the suppressor is screwed on tightly. Then he takes aim and fires the first shot. It appears that the slide does move back a little and gas escapes from the rear of the barrel and slide. He still has to reach over the top of the pistol and pull the slide back. That accounts for the first empty casing.
He then attempts to fire the 2nd round but notice that the pistol does not recoil. He pulls the slide back after pulling the trigger. That accounts for the first live round which was ejected.
Now that the next round is chambered he aims and fires again. The pistol recoils but with less smoke than the when the first round was fired. Regardless, we know that this is the 2nd round fired.
He pulls the slide back and ejects the 2nd empty casing. However, the slide does not return fully back into battery. He has to slap the back of the slide to push it in place with the left hand.
That doesn't appear to work so well as he looks like he's pulled the slide back again without firing that round. So the 2nd live round is ejected.
It appears that he still has some trouble getting the slide to move forward after ejecting the 2nd live round. As he's moving toward the victim, he moves the pistol in front of his body and out of view of the camera. He may have pulled the slide back again and ejected the 3rd live round.
He continues to move toward the victim and takes the 3rd shot because the pistol appears to recoil. Immediately after the 3rd shot is taken the shooter lowers the pistol sufficiently, but in front of his body out of camera view, and apparently pulls the slide back again ejecting the 3rd empty casing.
Now that the 4th live round is chambered he continues to walk over to the victim as if to fire a 4th fatal round but makes his exit instead.
Remember to slow the video down all the way and let me know if you agree.
IMHO, I don' t think this was a professional hit man. If he did this for hire, he wasn't very good at it. If he was a professional, he would have closed the distance to the victim to the point of almost sticking the pistol in his back and firing one round then making a hasty exit.
Speaking of the first round; also notice that his first shot hit the victim in the left hip/leg. At that distance, an accomplished pistolero would have been able to hit the victim in the back. This was possibly caused by nervousness on the part of a first time assassin.
If he did have a suppressor with a Nielsen device he probably didn't take very good care of his equipment. He might have been practicing with it prior to the murder but didn't clean the gun or the suppressor.
Like I said earlier, he appears to be ensuring that the suppressor was on tight before firing the first round. How many of us can attest to our cans wanting to come unscrewed after a few rounds?
After you have gained some experience you learn to prevent the problems of suppressors coming unscrewed. Someone with more experience would have ensured the tightness of the suppressor even before coming on the scene so it would not have to be rechecked, wasting time and possibly compromising the mission.
So he likely had some experience with using the suppressor but not enough to be 100% confident at this point. Some of us experienced with using suppressed pistols have either mitigated the problem of them coming unscrewed with blue Loctite, plumber's tape or in some rare cases, Vibratite.
Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition? Poorly designed or poorly maintained pistol causing a light primer strike? Who knows but if the shooter was a professional hit man, he was the lowest bidder for the job.
Meh that can be force of habit after dealing with cans like Gemtech thread ons that come loose.Like I said earlier, he appears to be ensuring that the suppressor was on tight
Ya sureThey can recognize your gait now.
So
Don’t forget the rock in your shoe
My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.
So pimp stepping is out?They can recognize your gait now.
So
Don’t forget the rock in your shoe
The weapon that the shooter used does not look like a VP9. Watch the first video and notice the hand movements to rotate and unlock the bolt. Then look at the surveillance video as the shooter reaches over the top of the pistol to pull the slide back.
The shooter was obviously familiar with shooting a pistol but, IMHO, he probably didn't have the Nielsen device sufficiently lubricated to allow the suppressor to move forward from the gas pressure then slap back with the spring to unlock the barrel.
On the other hand he may have used a suppressor without the Nielsen device, knowing that he would have to manually cycle the slide.
Watch the next video in slow motion. Also recall that the article said that police found three empty cases and three live rounds at the scene.
When the shooter comes in view, he appears to be making sure the suppressor is screwed on tightly. Then he takes aim and fires the first shot. It appears that the slide does move back a little and gas escapes from the rear of the barrel and slide. He still has to reach over the top of the pistol and pull the slide back. That accounts for the first empty casing.
He then attempts to fire the 2nd round but notice that the pistol does not recoil. He pulls the slide back after pulling the trigger. That accounts for the first live round which was ejected.
Now that the next round is chambered he aims and fires again. The pistol recoils but with less smoke than the when the first round was fired. Regardless, we know that this is the 2nd round fired.
He pulls the slide back and ejects the 2nd empty casing. However, the slide does not return fully back into battery. He has to slap the back of the slide to push it in place with the left hand.
That doesn't appear to work so well as he looks like he's pulled the slide back again without firing that round. So the 2nd live round is ejected.
It appears that he still has some trouble getting the slide to move forward after ejecting the 2nd live round. As he's moving toward the victim, he moves the pistol in front of his body and out of view of the camera. He may have pulled the slide back again and ejected the 3rd live round.
He continues to move toward the victim and takes the 3rd shot because the pistol appears to recoil. Immediately after the 3rd shot is taken the shooter lowers the pistol sufficiently, but in front of his body out of camera view, and apparently pulls the slide back again ejecting the 3rd empty casing.
Now that the 4th live round is chambered he continues to walk over to the victim as if to fire a 4th fatal round but makes his exit instead.
Remember to slow the video down all the way and let me know if you agree.
IMHO, I don' t think this was a professional hit man. If he did this for hire, he wasn't very good at it. If he was a professional, he would have closed the distance to the victim to the point of almost sticking the pistol in his back and firing one round then making a hasty exit.
Speaking of the first round; also notice that his first shot hit the victim in the left hip/leg. At that distance, an accomplished pistolero would have been able to hit the victim in the back. This was possibly caused by nervousness on the part of a first time assassin.
If he did have a suppressor with a Nielsen device he probably didn't take very good care of his equipment. He might have been practicing with it prior to the murder but didn't clean the gun or the suppressor.
Like I said earlier, he appears to be ensuring that the suppressor was on tight before firing the first round. How many of us can attest to our cans wanting to come unscrewed after a few rounds?
After you have gained some experience you learn to prevent the problems of suppressors coming unscrewed. Someone with more experience would have ensured the tightness of the suppressor even before coming on the scene so it would not have to be rechecked, wasting time and possibly compromising the mission.
So he likely had some experience with using the suppressor but not enough to be 100% confident at this point. Some of us experienced with using suppressed pistols have either mitigated the problem of them coming unscrewed with blue Loctite, plumber's tape or in some rare cases, Vibratite.
Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition? Poorly designed or poorly maintained pistol causing a light primer strike? Who knows but if the shooter was a professional hit man, he was the lowest bidder for the job.
Damn straight!!!It's The Pit........that's what it's for.
I ask you, in the financial district a guy is hanging out wearing a ski mask and nobody notices or says anything?
You forgot
"He was a hero"
I don't see anybody crying for the dead fucker. That company was recently in the news for using an AI program to approve/deny claims, with their finger on the scale towards "deny", I think they also ripped off medicare advantage (IE stole our tax dollars). Meanwhile he GOT 10mil a year.
And another wetard bets on the WelrodSteaming pile of horse shit from yahoo news.
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Former NYPD inspector 'skeptical' UnitedHealthcare CEO gunman was professional, zeroes in on weapon of choice
A former NYPD inspector describes 'murder-for-hire' plot of UnitedHealthcare CEO as unlikely and points out unusual gun used in the attack.news.yahoo.com
Does the former NYPD inspector have Down Syndrome?
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My favorite part of this website is watching people who demand evidence in other forums through muzzle velocity, group size, timer results etc, absolutely not demand evidence in The Bear Pit.
It's The Pit........that's what it's for.
Damn straight!!!
Looks like Stan didn’t get the memo about the Bear Pit. Among other things we got more hate than Chappel’s “Haters Ball” and more gang rape than a prison shower.
Well armed, very motivated individual who lost a family member due to non-coverage of treatment. And they will never find him.
I had not read or seen that he normally had a security detail. That would be an interesting detail to consider for sure.What do you think about them getting him on a day when he didn't have his security detail?
Sure looks like it.
If this is a non-pro hit like you say, I think they will find him. He has left a ton of evidence. Leaving his nose out in those photos sure shows a lot about his facial structure.
Purportedly he left 3 spent casings and 3 live rounds with something written on them, at the scene.
Also a cell phone….
Sure looks like it.
If this is a non-pro hit like you say, I think they will find him. He has left a ton of evidence. Leaving his nose out in those photos sure shows a lot about his facial structure.
Purportedly he left 3 spent casings and 3 live rounds with something written on them, at the scene.
Also a cell phone….
Limp wrist strikes again.Also note the fact that he experienced three misfires! Amateur reloader? Really bad ammunition?
This is why gangsters wear their pants down below their ass. Makes gait analysis impossible.Ya sure
And once again. Cops on the wrong side of right and wrongsympathy right now is unanimously with the shooter and not the dead guy.
I hadn't thought about the limp wrist as he was using both hands and described as being over six feet tall. That would fit a person with sufficient strength to hold the pistol firmly enough for the slide to operate. You do make a good point but how does that explain the three misfired rounds? As someone stated earlier, one missfire may have been due to the failure of the trigger to reset but what about the other two?Limp wrist strikes again.
This is why gangsters wear their pants down below their ass. Makes gait analysis impossible.
Just guessing here, but there are likely 20M+ suspects in the database.
If you're going to change colors remember to do something about the hands.
If he was really black then he was wearing lightly colored gloves in the video.Are you saying he was black and wearing whiteface? Extremely racist.