Cattle in Texas are going for ridiculous prices. The low herd population says it will be years before we get back to normal. We now have a situation where the prices are so high that some are selling good cows to the stockers as they can pay off bank notes and have a base herd left over while lowering feed costs over winter. It makes business sense, but it makes the problem even worse going forward.
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How to mention, the quality that is appearing at the supermarket level is pretty bad - especially on the parasite level. Does anybody have a link how to hook up to local cattle farmers? My dog and I don't eat much, but we need our red meat!
Easy solution - go to or call your local salebarn and ask them who sells to regular consumers. They will know all the players and can give you both advice on who to call and their phone numbers. That is the best starting point.
ETA: there may also be a local butcher who sells beef. That should be a better quality than what you get at the store. And there should be some reviews online to help you with the decision on them.
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somewhere, there's a MGunner frothing at the mouth.
didn't know the browning could kick out 1200. I learned something new.. as well as, someone got a MOH using one of these.
most of the Stinger's fame comes from its use by Medal of Honor awardee Corporal Tony Stein, who used it during the Battle of Iwo Jima to provide covering fire for his platoon mates.[5] While often attributed as Stein's work, the Stinger was actually the brainchild of two marines, namely Sergeant Milan "Mel" J. Grevich[1] and Private First Class John Lyttle.[2][3]
Stein fought in the Vella Lavella and Bougainville Campaigns, shooting five snipers in a single day during the latter operation.[1] A toolmaker prior to the war, Stein customized a .30 caliber AN/M2 Browning machine gun from a wrecked Navy fighter plane into a highly effective personal machine gun he nicknamed the "Stinger".[3]
M2 Stinger - Wikipedia
Tony Stein (September 30, 1921 – March 1, 1945) was a United States Marine who posthumously received the U.S. military's highest decoration, the Medal of Honor, for his actions in World War II. He received the award for repeatedly making single-handed assaults against the enemy and for aiding wounded Marines during the initial assault on Iwo Jima on February 19, 1945. He was killed in action ten days later.
Tony Stein - Wikipedia
When his comrades were stalled by a concentrated machinegun and mortar barrage, he gallantly stood upright and exposed himself to the enemy's view, thereby drawing the hostile fire to his own person and enabling him to observe the location of the furiously blazing hostile guns. Determined to neutralize the strategically placed weapons, he boldly charged the enemy pillboxes 1 by 1 and succeeded in killing 20 of the enemy during the furious single-handed assault. Cool and courageous under the merciless hail of exploding shells and bullets which fell on all sides, he continued to deliver the fire of his skillfully improvised weapon at a tremendous rate of speed which rapidly exhausted his ammunition. Undaunted, he removed his helmet and shoes to expedite his movements and ran back to the beach for additional ammunition, making a total of 8 trips under intense fire and carrying or assisting a wounded man back each time.
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Forgotten Weapons did a vid on it.somewhere, there's a MGunner frothing at the mouth.
didn't know the browning could kick out 1200. I learned something new.. as well as, someone got a MOH using one of these.
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most of the Stinger's fame comes from its use by Medal of Honor awardee Corporal Tony Stein, who used it during the Battle of Iwo Jima to provide covering fire for his platoon mates.[5] While often attributed as Stein's work, the Stinger was actually the brainchild of two marines, namely Sergeant Milan "Mel" J. Grevich[1] and Private First Class John Lyttle.[2][3]
Stein fought in the Vella Lavella and Bougainville Campaigns, shooting five snipers in a single day during the latter operation.[1] A toolmaker prior to the war, Stein customized a .30 caliber AN/M2 Browning machine gun from a wrecked Navy fighter plane into a highly effective personal machine gun he nicknamed the "Stinger".[3]
M2 Stinger - Wikipedia
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Tony Stein (September 30, 1921 – March 1, 1945) was a United States Marine who posthumously received the U.S. military's highest decoration, the Medal of Honor, for his actions in World War II. He received the award for repeatedly making single-handed assaults against the enemy and for aiding wounded Marines during the initial assault on Iwo Jima on February 19, 1945. He was killed in action ten days later.
He was 23.Tony Stein - Wikipedia
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Everyone gets affected... but the ones who will get affected first and most massively are the ones that rely on aid.
The US can feed itself with one hand tied behind its back. Maybe not as we're used to today. But we have the ability to ramp up agriculture ranging even if it means Victory gardens and local agricuture.
Would it be pleasant? Nope. Would it be fun? Nope. Would swaths of the population get affected? Yes, probably in urban areas most especially.
But we feed the damn world. And in a national emergency, the 'feed the world' would come to a sudden and painful halt (for the rest of the world).
And I agree our state of beef and similar production is scary. Though I don't know why. I certainly see it. Used to go the grocery store and there would be 10-12 feet of beef stacked 3 feet tall in the meat section. Now it's 3 feet. And prices are nuts. And selection is worse than nuts. If there are 10 steaks, it's surprising! Shortage? I don't know. Or is it price up, demand down? So they're not stocking it? I don't know? Is price up because supply is massively short? Or because of general inflation and now people can't afford? So it's not getting stocked... I don't know! But there is a change. Same with other meat, chicken and "real" protein... Is it agribusiness rationing? Are they trying to change us to Eat Zee Bugs? Is it just people who can't afford meat in my AO so the meat is being stocked elsewhere? (we are not a rich state, despite all the rich tourist douch bags... and the trendy butcher in town is loaded with $100 steaks.... so I assume beef out there.) Are we importing less from South America... or competing with China for beef and meat imports? Again... I don't know.
So something is going on. But I can say without being short-sighted or without being xenophobic... that if push comes to shove, North America will feed itself first.
The ones who will starve are the nations that rely on our output. And those nations can't begin to feed themselves. And that includes China. All of Africa. A lot of Russia and the FUSSR. India. The M.E. Even chunks of Western Europe are now incapable of supporting their populations with their domestic agriculture. None of them can feed themselves.
That leaves Canada and the USA as (again) the breadbaskets. Maybe Australia to some extent. Thanks to lots of arable land and a great climate, etc. We may not live like it was pre-2020... It would likely get a lot worse.
But the U.S. can feed itself... short of some massive natural disaster or something that affects our ability to small-scale farm and move food. And that is certainly a possiblity. But not as much of a possibility as watching the third world lose hundreds of million in famines that make biblical famines look like some tummy growls. The fact is that the carrying capacity of much of the world is so out of whack that a massive die-off has been overdue for a while. And without transport and US/Canada exports... the world starves or... other stuff happens.
So will it be starvation? A real pandemic (not a fake one), and malnutrition can trigger a pandemic. Large scale wars over food/water (pretty hard to do in third world where they mostly lack the technology for extermination-level warfare). But it will be somethin If we're lucky, we'll put it off for a few more decades. But it's coming. And the USA will be affected. But betting it's not going to be 1980's Ethiopia or 1990's Somalia... That will be going on in... well... Ethiopia and Somalia.
Sirhr
I beg to differ. Ukraine has shown us that US will feed whatever country offers the largest kickbacks to the politicians first. We will have to fend for ourselves.
Do an online search for ranchers in your area. Where I am there are probably a dozen ranchers who sell direct. They deliver to a butcher, you pick up the finished product.
I buy 1/4 calf every 12-18 months. Local. Grass fed, grain finished. The steak cuts ain’t worth it cus it’s a calf but the ground meat and gravy meat are great. Cheaper than what you’re paying per # in the store and far superior.
Slackers!!! All y'all let this pass and not a single one of you gave it a Claven.
Shame Shame on you!!! {Finger wagging in your faces}
Must I do everything for you?
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Open Google maps and enter processors near me.
Call them and ask for the names of farmers that sell to public. Then call the farmers and ask if they have an opening for a new customer.
Many processors have venison that has been left/not picked up/donated. They will usually sell it to you for the processing fee. They may also have beef for sale.
Many farmers only want to sell by a half cow. Make sure that it's vacuum packed. It'll last for a couple years in the freezer. Paper wrapping won't
Open Google maps and enter processors near me.
Call them and ask for the names of farmers that sell to public. Then call the farmers and ask if they have an opening for a new customer.
Many processors have venison that has been left/not picked up/donated. They will usually sell it to you for the processing fee. They may also have beef for sale.
Many farmers only want to sell by a half cow. Make sure that it's vacuum packed. It'll last for a couple years in the freezer. Paper wrapping won't
Unless you have access to heirloom seeds you are SOL. And they are not going to produce the quantity of the modified seeds.
There's a reason we can feed the world but in the scenario we won't be able to feed the cities in the USA. Commercial farming would not be sustainable
Anyone who does not have an ammo can or two of “regional” food seeds should take a week off buying more ammo… and put a collection together.
Up here we have High mowing seeds… filthy hippies. But superb seed produce of heirloom stuff from here…. Their seed fields are 30 miles away.
So right with you there on that one!!! Sirhr
