Salt water can't be used in most of the ground apparatus. Unless it's built to handle saline. It would corrode the pumps and inner works. You can probably use it in re: Helicopter or similar drops, but that's about it.
Maggie’s Motivational Pic Thread v2.0 - - New Rules - See Post #1
- Thread starter Snake-Eyes
- Start date
-
- Tags
- motivational pictures
Salt water can't be used in most of the ground apparatus. Unless it's built to handle saline. It would corrode the pumps and inner works. You can probably use it in re: Helicopter or similar drops, but that's about it.
Do you think it would last a few days or a couple weeks and maybe help get things under control?
Or would it like instantaneously corrode and lock up within an hour?
Perhaps, but at what cost? Several millions in either repaired or new apparati? They don't have enough working rigs as it is....
Salt water is corrosive for sure. The pumps, valves and pressure regulators will survive long enough to get the fires out.
If they immediately flush them using H2O and a product called salt away, most of their equipment won't suffer any long term damage.
Now, for long term use, beyond the corrosiveness, salt water is very, very abrasive.
When I worked at the Tampa Bay desalination plant, the items that took the brunt of the damage were the pump impellers. However, they were very high quality stainless steel, and lasted a very long time.
The highest level of damage was to the Pelton wheel leading edges. These were energy recovery items and they were spun with very high pressure, high saline content first pass discharge water.
We even tried carbide tipping them, but it was just no use.
Knowing this, I'd say pump that sea water, clean up your shit and worry about damage later. Your priority is getting the fires under control, and then out.
Salt water can absolutely be used in any fire fighting apparatus. It's just like firing corrosive ammo in a rifle. You fucking clean it afterwards. Almost all of the fittings and pipes in modern fire fighting apparatus are stainless anyway.
But, but, it'll corrode their shiny chrome and leave spots on their pretty red paint...
This should stop right here. The helicopter dippers, and sea plane scoopers are literally using thousands of gallons of sea water, daily. A single scooper carries 1500 gallons. Every 12 minutes, all damn day, less fuel stops. You do the math.
A sky crane or chinook carries over 3,000 gallons at 132 mph, blackhawks and Huey’s 1800-3000 ( struggle with the heavier bucket in high temps or at altitude), up to 4,000 lbs, range 345 mi, and even the jet rangers and other type 3 helicopters carry between 800-1700 gallon, per sortie. That a lot of sea water, with a short distance and turn around time.
Pumps are a different story, of course, but that’s apples to orangutans.
Not nearly as bad as the shit they spray on roads to melt snow and ice.
They weren't dropping sea water in CA. There is a hilltop fire fighting helicopter pad right in the fire zone with numerous dip tanks. They were going in and out of there like bees at a hive. I watched it on Alert California live cams for a while.
Why do folks keep supporting the notion that se
Airtankers get water from the ocean to fight the Palisades Fire Jan. 9, 2025, in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles, California. / Credit: Apu Gomes / Getty Images
Maybe people think that the fire department should have thrown hoses in the ocean and then run a few miles of hose up into the hills to a pumper truck to provide water. Now if we only had hundreds of miles of hose, another three or four thousand fire fighters, and another 500 trucks, maybe the homes up on the hill would have survived
a water
For some reason, folks keep making the claim that water from the ocean was not used. Those making the claim are usually those that don’t live in California and have no idea what had been going on.
Airtankers get water from the ocean to fight the Palisades Fire Jan. 9, 2025, in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles, California. / Credit: Apu Gomes / Getty Images
Maybe people think that the fire department should have thrown hoses in the ocean and then run a few miles of hose up into the hills to a pumper truck to provide water. Now if we only had hundreds of miles of hose, another three or four thousand fire fighters, and another 500 trucks, maybe the homes up on the hill would have survived
Last edited:
At least air drops. I get that about the trucks/pumps but with how absolutely fucking horribly the CA gov has handled it this situation seems like it should be an exception.
So what you are saying is this could lower the sea level and halt the risk to ocean front properties, right? RIGHT?
Several millions in equipment cost or billions in damage and loss of life. At this point, it’s about loss mitigation. Easy call for me.
Yeah, the questions were slightly rhetorical.
Kinda like getting up, packing shit, picking up bait, huffing it all the way out that that special speck spot, finding the temp and tide looking just right and realizing you packed your fresh water rigs ... fish it, flush it all when you get home and hope it lasts a couple more seasons.
All of my saltwater gear got washed, flushed and dried right along with the boat. Every stinking time.
The day she got home with her new trailer. The tongue was removable so I could park it in the garage.
Kept it for 5 years and then sold it in the fall of '21. Made a $3k profit on what I paid for it.
Shooting took, and has always taken the priority, so down the road she went.
The only thing I miss about it is bringing home a few speckled trout and getting the mutt out swimming 3 days per week.
Wasted the first 20 or so years of my youth on the gulf and the beaches, half a mile in nearly every direction to water or a ramp. You wash everything all the time no matter what, the stuff built for salt water just lasts longer. You can tell who doesn't wash his stuff because he spends his time fixing not fishing.
I still miss the peace of the water even when there weren't any fish.
Plenty of millennials did the same shit and were raised the same is what y’all never realize lol. Gen x are the CrossFit/vegans of the generations they never shut up about it.
I assumed they might not be picking up salt water because of surf conditions but the bays would be calm enough, shouldn't have let that one slip by.
i'm sure there are exceptions, and i know people my age that are worthless too.
bottom line, the widespread usage of "time outs" for discipline didn't start until the 80s, when we were already belt trained.
As I don't religiously follow this thread, I apologize if I missed the posting of FAFO #2. The FAFO #1 was posted earlier, but I've included it for completeness.
Btw people in the vid comments deduced that she is calling out for her protector, Montezzzz! We need some Montezzz memes or something lol
FAFO #1
FAFO #2
I'm sorta amazed she got up at all. Must've landed more on her upper back or something…she's got a lotta weight behind her, so if she had landed solely upon the back of her head,
Btw people in the vid comments deduced that she is calling out for her protector, Montezzzz! We need some Montezzz memes or something lol
FAFO #1
FAFO #2
I'm sorta amazed she got up at all. Must've landed more on her upper back or something…she's got a lotta weight behind her, so if she had landed solely upon the back of her head,
The cost of those cocksucker shoplifters gets passed on to us, kick that guy in the balls a time or 15 for me.
Literally everyone I know was “belt trained”. That’s the gen x problem they don’t really know they just state everything as fact because it sounds better. Yeah I’m sure there are pockets of whatever, but people in the south love spanking there kids.
there is also overlap. i am technically a boomer, but at the end of that range. i assume there are "millennials" that grew up in the early eighties along side many gen xers.
and this isn't older people calling out your generation, it is how some of your generation perceive ours.
