After 3 weeks of suspension, he was kicked off the SWAT team and returned to Patrol.
He is out there today, right now... looking for his next Victim.
Perhaps on the next "manhunt?"
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After 3 weeks of suspension, he was kicked off the SWAT team and returned to Patrol.
He is out there today, right now... looking for his next Victim.
Perhaps on the next "manhunt?"
Of course it is, so explain what "right" you are alluding to please. Is it the "right" to point your gun at the cops, or your "right" to shoot at them that we are talking about here?
YOU said the cops had a RIGHT to disarm her. I wasn't eluding to anything.
Now I'm just confused. Are you suggesting they aren't given the authority to disarm armed people they encounter while in pursuit of a criminal? Do you think they were expected to know that she wasn't involved, wasn't there to pick up her boyfriend who's running from them? Are they expected to know that she's not hopped up on ssri's and alcohol and is a legitimate danger to anyone she can see? What is your actual point please?
You chose to be a stickler for legal definitions and now you’re confused? Are you a cop or something?
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We are having friendly discourse, but I think this probably explains a lot as far as our difference of opinion.
That's actually COMPLETLY INCORRECT, and it's proven out time and time again.
If this were true at all, affluent and educated exurbs would be completely safe from misconduct... but the real driver is the absence of Standards and Discipline.
If you constantly lower standards and fail to carry out discipline for misbehavior- you get folks who don't meet the standard and constantly misbehave. (Thanks, Government-Employee-Unions)
And that's just it. It's 99.5% internal and 0.5% external.
In the GWOT, you could be responsible for a "bad-atmospherics" type town and simply do your job. Serve it up cold, clean, and professional every day... bad men run for the hills... protect the populace where-they-sleep... promote economic activity... strengthen local governance, etc... etc...
...and when the Bad Men try to sneak back in- the Mukhtar aint playin no outside-influence so La-Shukran, and $50 to poorly emplace an IED and possibly die either upon arming (lol) or discovery is not an appealing deal to the kid on the bike with the fingerless gloves in every town.
One town over, there might be a responsible unit with no standards and discipline. They sport kill regularly- following too closely, hostile observation, whatever... They don't really care about the locals because nobody ever dumped this much cash into Deer Dong, Ohio to help them out... They lie on their debriefs... Driving through town at 25MPH is "patrolling..." they can't spot the Mukhtar out on the town, and if they do they don't know his name and can't speak any Arabic at all... and so now you get violence in your city.
...and what if I told you that the second town was the more prosperous and educated population? Y'know, where Evil and Corruption would never take root, let alone flourish.
You might bend your brain to say that they want the violence because they are smarter and therefore more ideological... or they have the money and therefore they are a juicier target for the bad guys...
That would be BS though- it happens because it is TOLERATED.
I don't tolerate any of this.
Not a cop, you're being intentionally obtuse because you don't have anything intelligent to say.
Moving on.
Projection isn’t going to get you out of this.
Do you honestly believe that they have a RIGHT to disarm her?
Be careful how you answer this, in light of your, “legal definition” foible above.
Everything you assumed about me while you were writing that is incorrect. I don't need lessons about how things worked during GWOT. I think technically I was in for...... 8 or 9 years during gwot, and a few years prior. I wasn't a supply bitch either, didn't make chow, and I didn't drive trucks. You do not know anything about how the world works where I live, so just stop. It may not be that way where you live, but that is irrelevant. Any time you have humans interacting in high stress environments, you'll have mistakes. If you are a gwot vet with any time in, you should know that without anyone telling you. Cops aren't perfect, some of them are garbage and should be executed for their actions, but 99.99% of their interactions are completely benign. 99.9% of their shootings are justified. This forum spends thousands of hours a year condemning cops over the .001% of the interactions where ahit goes bad, and you guys use them to condemn them all. It's fucking ridiculous..
Let me use smaller words, since I've already answered this question.
Yes. They have the right to disarm her.
A "right" is a legally defensive position, (see accompanying picture for the full definition).
Do you have anything else to waste my time with?
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Refute anything I've said with evidence mouth breather, not your half baked opinions. I'm not sure you have sufficient IQ for this conversation..
Amazing! Now, please outline the specific right under the law that protects them to disarm a woman on her own property.
Fucking idiot.
While a precise percentage is difficult to define due to differing data sources and definitions of "justified," it's estimated that approximately 50% of police shootings result in a justifiable homicide. This means that half of the roughly 1,000 annual police killings are determined to be justified, according to some independent tallies.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
- FBI Data:
The FBI's data, which is acknowledged to be incomplete, shows around 400 to 500 homicides per year are deemed justified.
- Independent Tallies:
Independent tallies, like those by The Washington Post and The Guardian, suggest around 1,000 police killings annually.
- Justifiable Homicide Definition:
The FBI defines justifiable homicide as "the killing of a felon by a law enforcement officer in the line of duty," according to The Washington Post.
- Prosecutions:
Fewer than 3% of killings by police each year result in officers being charged with a crime, according to the 2024 Police Violence Report.
You aren't intelligent enough to continue answering. You seem like the typical acab guy too, can't get them to expunged the beastiality charge you picked up in your early 20's so you have a chip on your shoulder. Goodbye forever special Ed.
Apply this, “Everything you assumed about me while you were writing that is incorrect.”, to me.
Oh my fucking God, I'll respond to this before I block you.
This dumb motherfucker quoted the Washington post and an anti-police organization that is probably funded through BLM or a soros proxy as "evidence". It's worse than I thought. Was it at least a pretty sheep?
lol that’s only the shit they don’t get covered up / plant guns etc.
Kind of like when people say 13s commit 52 percent of crime
Fuck no. City clearance rates are abysmal and it’s all 13s killing each other in the city’s. So the rate is really like 13s commit 80-90 percent of crime.
Cops do all kinds of criminal shit and it gets covered up.
Apparently you live in the Negaverse, where everything false is true- and nobody is around to correct you... because there literally is no Community... or Civilization to speak of.
Amazing.
You're the lawyer... so are you citing California law?
Why would you Victimize the Homeowner and try to disarm her while a dangerous Criminal is on the loose?
Or was he not dangerous? I think the whole claim is that before they abandoned the pursuit, and forgot about their jobs, there was a crashout after a car chase, and the Criminal needed to be caught.
In his defense, I kind of started that... and I regret it.
Anyway, the "officers'" attention at the time of the incident was 0% focused on apprehending their suspect, and 100% focused on choreographing-and-orchestrating a sport kill on a Mom defending her family.
I have a question for you acab boys:
Serious question:
Do any of you have any meaningful input that would solve any of this? Do any of you do anything to solve the problem other than come to an anonymous forum and say the same tired bullshit over and over again. You are middle aged (give or take) American men. If you aren't going to make efforts to fix it, who is?
If you aren't willing to do something about the problem, then all you're doing is bitching to hear the sound of your own voice. I can absolutely guarantee you that typing words into this forum does nothing to solve any problems. Nobody is coming to the bear pit to decide how policies are shaped. Do something with the time you waste here to make things better.
Serious question:
Do any of you have any meaningful input that would solve any of this? Do any of you do anything to solve the problem other than come to an anonymous forum and say the same tired bullshit over and over again. You are middle aged (give or take) American men. If you aren't going to make efforts to fix it, who is?
If you aren't willing to do something about the problem, then all you're doing is bitching to hear the sound of your own voice. I can absolutely guarantee you that typing words into this forum does nothing to solve any problems. Nobody is coming to the bear pit to decide how policies are shaped. Do something with the time you waste here to make things better.
ACAB?
Hyperbole, Ad-Hom, you're just so damn DELISH....
There are many, many ways to restore standards and discipline in Law Enforcement. Nearly all of the solutions will work in varying degrees, in promoting a positive outcome.
NONE, 0 (Zero), of those things have ever been implemented- because the Government Employee Unions prevent it, and because the State kills with impunity.
1) Professionalize Law Enforcement - License the practitioners and force them to adhere to a common standard. Enforce that standard every minute of the day, nationwide.
2) Recognize that Government Employee Unions are Organized Crime Syndicates- and can not engage in "bargaining" because the other side of the table (management) has nothing to lose by entertaining their demands (for low standards, no discipline, and high rewards)... and there is no way for Gov to "go out of business." Fix all the payscales. Give 48 hours for members to denounce their affiliation, and arrest them on day 3 if they don't.
3) Make the white shirt cops "officers" and the blue shirt cops "workers." Let the officers allocate the patrol resources, handle the administration, perform planning towards quarterly objectives within the Community, apply the standards... and the blue shirt cops will take to this beautifully and adopt the standard (or be gone). You will know this is working when a fucked up Cop gets his ass kicked by his peers instead of "I'm going to cover for you here, but you owe me a big favor for my own larger misconduct as repayment).
4) Publish a searchable database of complaints-->investigations-->findings - by license number. Unskilled Plumbers don't get work, sketchy plumbers get a harder look at what they did... unskilled Law Enforcement Officers deserve a harder look at cases they support. The DAs should have data to support, "I'm not taking any cases from Bob because he's a fucked up cop and they always get blown up by defense attorneys chasing his misconduct down all rabbit holes in court, at trial."
5) Insure the practitioners- based on a rating derived from the database. You can be a pretty bad cop if you're willing to pay higher rates. You won't be able to be a career bad cop because the rates would wipe out your earnings.
6) Message-out the results- show the people that the money they pay for law enforcement is working for them. For low level misconduct, make the "officer" stand on the onramp to the local highway during rush hour wearng a sandwich boar that says, "I'm a Fucked up Cop, and I'm Sorry." For medium-stuff, terminate employment and revoke the license. For heavy-stuff, televised executions right next to the major criminals.
...and more.
Sweet, I'll admit that I didn't read all of that, but I think many of us could have made the same or a similar list. Now, other than spending gobs of time here talking about it with like minded people, what have you done to see any of this implemented? Are you a man of action or just talk?
For the 1000th. Let them face the same punishments civilly criminally and professionally that those who pay them would for breaking the law etc
I asked because you spelled the word haus, which is the German word for house. Unless that was your imitation as a NAZI. In which case, spot on.
Occasionally, I use bad grammer and incorrect spelling to fit in around hear.
Wow, this thread really took off.
I keep asking myself, what is the worst that would have happened, if they just left her the hell alone………?
I keep asking myself, what is the worst that would have happened, if they just left her the hell alone………?
It's because of people like hecouldgoalltheway that we are fighting for constitutional carry. You should cower in your home and let the police handle it. This mentality has lead to the police acting like anyone, that's not a cop, that's armed is a criminal.
Dial 911 and hide in your home the police are on their way. Meanwhile the Public Safety Doctrine says that they have no obligation to protect you and if you dial 911 you are giving them consent to enter your home under exigent circumstances. If they kill you by mistake they are not liable for it. Nor are they liable for any damages to your home.
Dial 911 and hide in your home the police are on their way. Meanwhile the Public Safety Doctrine says that they have no obligation to protect you and if you dial 911 you are giving them consent to enter your home under exigent circumstances. If they kill you by mistake they are not liable for it. Nor are they liable for any damages to your home.
Oh- I'm 'bout that action, homey.
Come see me on some anticonstitutional shit, or do some Terrorism in my Community... I dare you!
They would have lost out on American blood. One of them got it, at least.
Remember RoboCop's Prime Directives?
1) Serve the Public Trust
2) Protect the Innocent
3) Uphold the Law
These "officers" have different Prime Directives:
1) Take American Life
2) Spill American Blood
3) Defeat American Civilization
I'm going to take you off of my blocked list for about 30 seconds to respond to such a stupid fucking comment from the #1 piece of shit on this site. Don't worry, I'll silence your useless ass again in just a moment.
I don't call the cops. I don’t fuck with cops. Wait, because this is the important part: I'm very rarely, and not at all in this thread or the other active acab thread even defending the cops.
Now, we all know that you are literally fucking stupid. It's really that simple, but I'll try again.
All I've pointed out is that if you do stupid shit when you encounter a cop or a group of cops, you deserve what you get. Imagine they aren't cops in every scenario. Imagine they are just a nervous dude with a gun, and all you have to do in almost every case, (there are clear and egregious exceptions to this) is act like an intelligent person and you won't get shot. Some cops should be better at dealing with people, and that accounts for plenty of these videos, but God damn it, a whole lot of people should be better at dealing with cops.
If they tell you to drop your gun, don't read them the fucking preamble and quote case law while you swing your arms around, just drop the fucking gun. Rights don't stop bullets.
If they tell you that you're under arrest, do what any fucking lawyer on earth would tell you and cuff up and shut the fuck up. Everything you say can and will be used against you, and there is a nearly 0% chance that you're getting shot tonight.
Conversely, refuse to comply with orders from someone pointing a gun at you.... that's suicide by stupidity.
Starting a wrestling match with a cop is suicide by stupidity.
From the time I was 5 years old, my father made me understand that you don't call 911 until the situation is resolved. You handle it, fix the scene, get everyone's stories straight, then you call them. I'm not a cop lover, nor am I a cop hater. They are neccessary and also very flawed, well......because they are humans, millions of humans, some good, some bad, most pretty decent folks.
I'm not an advocate for anything except people not acting like morons and getting themselves killed in a police interaction. You'll, almost never, (can't say never) get yourself shot by complying with instructions from a police officer. Your odds increase exponentially with every level of resistance, and any lawyer on the planet will tell you to follow their instructions and shut the fuck up. You aren't arguing your way out of anything anyways, and you damn sure aren't wrestling out of it without consequences..
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I would delete that if I were you…just sayin’
I understand. I do. I'll say that I'm so far from doing anything illegal these days, that I have no fear of that causing me any trouble. But thank you.
A grown man says that he doesn't have the ability to skip past written words and has to use an Internet tool to protect him from those terrible things he might read.
But sadly she didn't encounter them. The King's men came to her property and demanded that she disarm.
Back to your safe place. I hope you have some kittens, bunnies or something soft to soothe your angst of the written word
Are you trying to give advice to god? You realize this guy so far above and beyond us weak minded knuckle draggers, right? Dont play with fire, he's the real deal man! THE REAL DEAL!
"Blah blah blah.....Im perfect.......blah blah. You guys are retards.....blah blah blah."
More blah please!
This woman….
Interviewed a serial killer.
Wrote some books.
Joined a harem.
Wrote for huff post.
Married a rock star.
Fires a pistol in LA.
Got shot by police and walked it off.
Pretty exciting life it looks like. Follow her social media to see where she goes next! Haha!
Interviewed a serial killer.
Wrote some books.
Joined a harem.
Wrote for huff post.
Married a rock star.
Fires a pistol in LA.
Got shot by police and walked it off.
Pretty exciting life it looks like. Follow her social media to see where she goes next! Haha!
Remember, around this country every day, cops are just doing their jobs……
Remember, around this country every day, cops are just doing their jobs……
And more reasons parents shouldn't send their kids to state controlled education camps, i mean schools.
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