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#52
hankpac said:
Rigger. In the rear with the gear. Fuckin REMF. Peace-time paratrooper.
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Yes, parachute rigger, assigned to the heavy drop rigging section. We rigged vehicles and supplies for air drop. So yes, riggers are in the rear providing support nothing to be ashamed of.

Peace time, maybe but my time in service was Vietnam era although I was never in country and have never claimed to be. Basic training company just ahead of mine turned out to be the last group of replacements to go to Vietnam.

When I got out in '74 only 1% of the military were draftees, those prior had either got out or re-upped.

I'm not ashamed of my service and you want to call me a REMF but where do you get off thinking you're any better than me? What makes you better?
 
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B y r o n said:
Yes, parachute rigger, assigned to the heavy drop rigging section. We rigged vehicles and supplies for air drop. So yes, riggers are in the rear providing support nothing to be ashamed of.

Peace time, maybe but my time in service was Vietnam era although I was never in country and have never claimed to be. Basic training company just ahead of mine turned out to be the last group of replacements to go to Vietnam.

When I got out in '74 only 1% of the military were draftees, those prior had either got out or re-upped.

I'm not ashamed of my service and you want to call me a REMF but where do you get off thinking you're any better than me? What makes you better?
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I think this conversation went off the rails, but it started because of your initial comment about how women should be allowed in combat arms, after giving your glowing review of their performance in law enforcement. I incorrectly assumed you had no military service, since anyone who has and has been exposed to women in uniform almost universally shares my opinion about how absolutely ridiculous it is to claim that women belong in those roles. Your mos tells us that you weren't doing a combat arms job anyways, so you did 2 years in a quartermaster unit. That's about as relevant to many, many of the folks here who spend decades in combat arms as apples are to hand grenades. Your assessment of women in those positions is unrealistic, for many previously explained reasons. Your position on justifying their use of force by their gender is just about the most ridiculous thing you could have said. You're justifying use of force on their behalf because they are physically inferior to men. You've created an oxymoron in your own line of thought. I for one apologize for alluding to your lack of service, but I didn't understand your timeline. You could not determine your own fate as a draftee, so that's not a reason that anyone should attack you.... but this is the bear pit, and you came here willingly and entered the thunderdome, so you don't get to cry foul now. That's what this is. In summary, many of the people in this conversation have decades in combat arms and special operations, (exponentially more than you'd likely believe), and they watched with their own eyes, as did I, the destruction of the military efficacy because people who didn't know what they were talking about were making the same claims you've made here. You're wrong, plain and simple, but it's OK to be wrong, it happens to all of us.
 
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B y r o n said:
Yes, parachute rigger, assigned to the heavy drop rigging section. We rigged vehicles and supplies for air drop. So yes, riggers are in the rear providing support nothing to be ashamed of.

Peace time, maybe but my time in service was Vietnam era although I was never in country and have never claimed to be. Basic training company just ahead of mine turned out to be the last group of replacements to go to Vietnam.

When I got out in '74 only 1% of the military were draftees, those prior had either got out or re-upped.

I'm not ashamed of my service and you want to call me a REMF but where do you get off thinking you're any better than me? What makes you better?
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But this is exactly the type of support that women and homosexuals could do. Don't get me wrong, this is vital work that the military could not possibly do without. Very much needed. This is the place for those that should not be front line infantry combat. Still absolutely no place for trannies though, anywhere. The mental disease is disqualifying
 
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Hecouldgoalltheway said:
I think this conversation went off the rails, but it started because of your initial comment about how women should be allowed in combat arms, after giving your glowing review of their performance in law enforcement. I incorrectly assumed you had no military service, since anyone who has and has been exposed to women in uniform almost universally shares my opinion about how absolutely ridiculous it is to claim that women belong in those roles. Your mos tells us that you weren't doing a combat arms job anyways, so you did 2 years in a quartermaster unit. That's about as relevant to many, many of the folks here who spend decades in combat arms as apples are to hand grenades. Your assessment of women in those positions is unrealistic, for many previously explained reasons. Your position on justifying their use of force by their gender is just about the most ridiculous thing you could have said. You're justifying use of force on their behalf because they are physically inferior to men. You've created an oxymoron in your own line of thought. I for one apologize for alluding to your lack of service, but I didn't understand your timeline. You could not determine your own fate as a draftee, so that's not a reason that anyone should attack you.... but this is the bear pit, and you came here willingly and entered the thunderdome, so you don't get to cry foul now. That's what this is. In summary, many of the people in this conversation have decades in combat arms and special operations, (exponentially more than you'd likely believe), and they watched with their own eyes, as did I, the destruction of the military efficacy because people who didn't know what they were talking about were making the same claims you've made here. You're wrong, plain and simple, but it's OK to be wrong, it happens to all of us.
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I'm not crying foul, I just expressed my personal opinion and experience. I said if someone, gender or sexual orientation didn't matter, was willing to do the job than I didn't have a problem with it.

You say that women don't belong in combat roles but I think history and even current events may prove you wrong. It is my understanding the Russia had a good number of women snipers involved in many major battles. You might want to look at the number of women in the Israeli military as well and many are not in support positions.

Throughout history women have fought beside men. I'm not saying that all will or should but many have. Simply saying that anyone could not or should not be allowed pursue a job in law enforcement or the military if that is their desire and they are willing to do the job is simply wrong in my opion.
 
#57
powdahound76 said:
Im not defending either or pushing for acceptance of the gay/tranny/pedo anything.

And will openly admit before I found the Lord, I was the wildest of the wild as a straight dude.
And still struggle in my brain regularly.

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Speaking as the Prodigal Son, believe me, i know exactly where youre coming from.

Some of it leaves you physically compromised, some of it leaves you spiritually compromised.

Righteousness is not an easy path...but in the long run, the narrow path is sure is more rewarding than the broad one.
 
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Downtown said:
But this is exactly the type of support that women and homosexuals could do. Don't get me wrong, this is vital work that the military could not possibly do without. Very much needed. This is the place for those that should not be front line infantry combat. Still absolutely no place for trannies though, anywhere. The mental disease is disqualifying
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Yeah, right up until the mentally-ill decide to fuck with the parachute packing or the rigging because they are batshit crazy.

Parachute riggers (even the heavy equipment ones) have a pretty darn critical job when you are one of the people jumping out of a plane.

A bunch of years ago, IIRC, a bunch of riggers at Ft. Bragg intentionally mis-rigged some parachutes and some troopers were killed. Those are the stakes when it comes to important jobs like rigging parachutes. Or maybe navigating a ship near a reef. Or flying a chopper in a busy airport area. Or how about blowing up the turret on a battleship? This is what fucktards and the mentally-ill do.

Thanks, but I want the best and brightest rigging 'chutes, not some mentally-ill or PMS'ing DEI bitch who is mad that she isn't on jump status.

There are no jobs for morons in the military. If there are moron jobs, they should be given to contractors. And, yeah, I get picking rust and doing launday on combat ships sucks. And having to do nasty shit is part of being at the bottom of the pecking order. But is also a test of 'how bad do you want to be here?' But when it comes down to it... morons should not be part of a team that can't afford weak links. Because a weak link at WalMart and you get a poorly-running store. A weak link in an Airborne division and someone has to write letters home to parents who are going to get their kid home in a sealed box.

And This especially applies to the mentally-ill, which is what these trannies are. 100 percent mentally ill. So fuck them... out on their asses. Go work at a carwash or washing dishes... Or if you want a manly job, go become a roughneck and work on an oil platform. Or if you want to parachute... become a smoke jumper. Or work on a road crew so everyone can see your little sun dress and falsies. See how that works out for you.

Sirhr
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Yeah, right up until the mentally-ill decide to fuck with the parachute packing or the rigging because they are batshit crazy.

Parachute riggers (even the heavy equipment ones) have a pretty darn critical job when you are one of the people jumping out of a plane.

A bunch of years ago, IIRC, a bunch of riggers at Ft. Bragg intentionally mis-rigged some parachutes and some troopers were killed. Those are the stakes when it comes to important jobs like rigging parachutes. Or maybe navigating a ship near a reef. Or flying a chopper in a busy airport area. Or how about blowing up the turret on a battleship? This is what fucktards and the mentally-ill do.

Thanks, but I want the best and brightest rigging 'chutes, not some mentally-ill or PMS'ing DEI bitch who is mad that she isn't on jump status.

There are no jobs for morons in the military. If there are moron jobs, they should be given to contractors. And, yeah, I get picking rust and doing launday on combat ships sucks. And having to do nasty shit is part of being at the bottom of the pecking order. But is also a test of 'how bad do you want to be here?' But when it comes down to it... morons should not be part of a team that can't afford weak links. Because a weak link at WalMart and you get a poorly-running store. A weak link in an Airborne division and someone has to write letters home to parents who are going to get their kid home in a sealed box.

And This especially applies to the mentally-ill, which is what these trannies are. 100 percent mentally ill. So fuck them... out on their asses. Go work at a carwash or washing dishes... Or if you want a manly job, go become a roughneck and work on an oil platform. Or if you want to parachute... become a smoke jumper. Or work on a road crew so everyone can see your little sun dress and falsies. See how that works out for you.

Sirhr
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I thought they packed their own chutes. I would.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Yeah, right up until the mentally-ill decide to fuck with the parachute packing or the rigging because they are batshit crazy.

Parachute riggers (even the heavy equipment ones) have a pretty darn critical job when you are one of the people jumping out of a plane.

A bunch of years ago, IIRC, a bunch of riggers at Ft. Bragg intentionally mis-rigged some parachutes and some troopers were killed. Those are the stakes when it comes to important jobs like rigging parachutes. Or maybe navigating a ship near a reef. Or flying a chopper in a busy airport area. Or how about blowing up the turret on a battleship? This is what fucktards and the mentally-ill do.

Thanks, but I want the best and brightest rigging 'chutes, not some mentally-ill or PMS'ing DEI bitch who is mad that she isn't on jump status.

There are no jobs for morons in the military. If there are moron jobs, they should be given to contractors. And, yeah, I get picking rust and doing launday on combat ships sucks. And having to do nasty shit is part of being at the bottom of the pecking order. But is also a test of 'how bad do you want to be here?' But when it comes down to it... morons should not be part of a team that can't afford weak links. Because a weak link at WalMart and you get a poorly-running store. A weak link in an Airborne division and someone has to write letters home to parents who are going to get their kid home in a sealed box.

And This especially applies to the mentally-ill, which is what these trannies are. 100 percent mentally ill. So fuck them... out on their asses. Go work at a carwash or washing dishes... Or if you want a manly job, go become a roughneck and work on an oil platform. Or if you want to parachute... become a smoke jumper. Or work on a road crew so everyone can see your little sun dress and falsies. See how that works out for you.

Sirhr
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Don't misunderstand me. All the trannies are indeed mentally ill and should certainly never be allowed in the military. I was simply saying that competent women and gays (no pms DEI included) are capable of serving in jobs that aren't frontline combat. They certainly have in past conflicts. We need get rid of the stupid DEI shit and recruit strictly on merit and we would weed out the morons of both sexes.
 
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232593 said:
Can’t spell lost without LT
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Downtown said:
Don't misunderstand me. All the trannies are indeed mentally ill and should certainly never be allowed in the military. I was simply saying that competent women and gays (no pms DEI included) are capable of serving in jobs that aren't frontline combat. They certainly have in past conflicts. We need get rid of the stupid DEI shit and recruit strictly on merit and we would weed out the morons of both sexes.
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Understood and a very reasonable position.

Unfortunately Clinton's sop to Don't ask don't tell was still a signal for 'welcome aboard.' And a political move aimed at identity politics.

Much better with the old policy of "No. But if we don't find out, there ya go."

In other words... stay in the closet. Yes, people of lots of 'persuasions' served in all wars. But in our western country with its Puritan roots... it's not particularly fitting.

I don't care what consenting adults want to do in their own fucking closets they can cornhole each other all they want. It's when they are more vocal than vegans, Gluten Free morons and 10mm shooters that they are looking for attention... and especially when their 'identity' ibecomes a political thing that almost universally puts its energy to leftist, divisive politics... that it is severely disruptive.

As for women in the military, they have served since Bouddica (I have a cat named after her) and long before. And some can handle anything and everything. The Special Air Service recon/intel adjuncts have had women for years. The U.S. intel (including miltiary units) have had women since the 1990's (quietly). And there were plenty of OSS women who were tough as hell. So as long as there are not two standards, I have no issues. BUT the same standards are the same standards. Just like the SF PT test does not have an 'age' category where times and reps are adjusted for age. You want to serve in special units, you have to meet the standard. Not the 'old guy' standard and the young guy standard. Not the man standard and the chick standard.

But that's just me. And my opinion matters not one bit!

BTW, the riggers, as I recall, were not gay or women or trannys. They were, however, nuts. Missed by their chain of command, etc. Hard to weed them out... I'd have to dig to find the story. But I think it was in the 1990's.

Cheers!
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Understood and a very reasonable position.

Unfortunately Clinton's sop to Don't ask don't tell was still a signal for 'welcome aboard.' And a political move aimed at identity politics.

Much better with the old policy of "No. But if we don't find out, there ya go."

In other words... stay in the closet. Yes, people of lots of 'persuasions' served in all wars. But in our western country with its Puritan roots... it's not particularly fitting.

I don't care what consenting adults want to do in their own fucking closets they can cornhole each other all they want. It's when they are more vocal than vegans, Gluten Free morons and 10mm shooters that they are looking for attention... and especially when their 'identity' ibecomes a political thing that almost universally puts its energy to leftist, divisive politics... that it is severely disruptive.

As for women in the military, they have served since Bouddica (I have a cat named after her) and long before. And some can handle anything and everything. The Special Air Service recon/intel adjuncts have had women for years. The U.S. intel (including miltiary units) have had women since the 1990's (quietly). And there were plenty of OSS women who were tough as hell. So as long as there are not two standards, I have no issues. BUT the same standards are the same standards. Just like the SF PT test does not have an 'age' category where times and reps are adjusted for age. You want to serve in special units, you have to meet the standard. Not the 'old guy' standard and the young guy standard. Not the man standard and the chick standard.

But that's just me. And my opinion matters not one bit!

BTW, the riggers, as I recall, were not gay or women or trannys. They were, however, nuts. Missed by their chain of command, etc. Hard to weed them out... I'd have to dig to find the story. But I think it was in the 1990's.

Cheers!
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I distinctly recall sending a pile of 10mm brass your way...

Just sayin.
 
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sirhrmechanic said:
Understood and a very reasonable position.

Unfortunately Clinton's sop to Don't ask don't tell was still a signal for 'welcome aboard.' And a political move aimed at identity politics.

Much better with the old policy of "No. But if we don't find out, there ya go."

In other words... stay in the closet. Yes, people of lots of 'persuasions' served in all wars. But in our western country with its Puritan roots... it's not particularly fitting.

I don't care what consenting adults want to do in their own fucking closets they can cornhole each other all they want. It's when they are more vocal than vegans, Gluten Free morons and 10mm shooters that they are looking for attention... and especially when their 'identity' ibecomes a political thing that almost universally puts its energy to leftist, divisive politics... that it is severely disruptive.

As for women in the military, they have served since Bouddica (I have a cat named after her) and long before. And some can handle anything and everything. The Special Air Service recon/intel adjuncts have had women for years. The U.S. intel (including miltiary units) have had women since the 1990's (quietly). And there were plenty of OSS women who were tough as hell. So as long as there are not two standards, I have no issues. BUT the same standards are the same standards. Just like the SF PT test does not have an 'age' category where times and reps are adjusted for age. You want to serve in special units, you have to meet the standard. Not the 'old guy' standard and the young guy standard. Not the man standard and the chick standard.

But that's just me. And my opinion matters not one bit!

BTW, the riggers, as I recall, were not gay or women or trannys. They were, however, nuts. Missed by their chain of command, etc. Hard to weed them out... I'd have to dig to find the story. But I think it was in the 1990's.

Cheers!
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Riggers were some of the most disgruntled folks in Division. I had always thought that one of them was going to be the next SGT French, until SGT Kreutzer came along…
 
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Riggers were some of the most disgruntled folks in Division. I had always thought that one of them was going to be the next SGT French, until SGT Kreutzer came along…
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I forgot about that wizard... A couple of (unarmed) 5th group guys took him down. Ballsy! He was batshit crazy, apparently.

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sirhrmechanic said:
I forgot about that wizard... A couple of (unarmed) 5th group guys took him down. Ballsy! He was batshit crazy, apparently.

Sirhr
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After that went down the joke up and down Ardennes was you go to Towle stadium to zero and Luigi’s to qualify.

I’m told that after the 5th group guys whooped his ass and he regained consciousness while strapped to the stretcher he asked the medic “so how many did I get”. And supposedly the medic busted him right in the nose.
 
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