Maryland AWB

[Dildobaggins]

So just a question,

With the new ruling from the supreme court, a bunch of cases are going back down to the lower courts. I'm in NY. From my understanding if Maryland where to overturn the AWB, states such as Maryland, NJ, NY would also be overturned? Does anyone know when this case is going before the 4th circuit for a decision. I know it's just a pipe dream they would overturn it, but I'm curious.

 

[Franko]

I expect all AW bans will get overturned eventually but we could be talking weeks, months, or years as the States delay and anti-gun judges play along. I think your referring to Bianchi v. Frosh which was kicked back to the lower courts at the end of the SC term that just finished. You should be able to look up it's status with the 4th Circuit calendar. I'm not really up to date on the details but I think your gonna have to wait for a full trial on the merits.

 

[Dirty D]

I expect all AW bans will get overturned eventually but we could be talking weeks, months, or years as the States delay and anti-gun judges play along. I think your referring to Bianchi v. Frosh which was kicked back to the lower courts at the end of the SC term that just finished. You should be able to look up it's status with the 4th Circuit calendar. I'm not really up to date on the details but I think your gonna have to wait for a full trial on the merits.

This is a pretty good summary of where we are. Given the way SCOTUS worded their opinion I don’t see many gun restrictions surviving a Constitutional challenge but like Frankie said there are plenty of anti 2a judges who are happy to play along and facilitate fuckery to slow down the process as much as possible. SCOTUS remanded the CA magazine lawsuit back to the 9th circuit with instructions to decide the case using the criteria they lined out in NYSRPA. The state of CA has filed a motion to start the case from scratch which is them trying to buy time while the administration tries to pack the court to reinstate Roe v Wade and overturn the NYSRPA ruling. The administrations problem is sleepy/creepy/fall off a bikey Joe’s disapproval numbers are breaking records and the midterms are going to be a bloodbath and he gets to spend his last 2 years in office as a lame duck so no packing SCOTUS with liberal/progressive judges.

 

[Dildobaggins]

Yep, that's the one I was referring to I believe. I will check out the calendar if I can find it. I'll post it here if I find anything. Thanks both of you!

 

[Dildobaggins]

Watched a bunch of video from FPC. They are definitely going back to court but, I fear you both may be correct. I can't find anything in the fourth circuit calenders, and they go to almost 2024. Obviously that doesn't mean they can't squeeze it in, but I'm not seeing anything.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

POS Scotus justices refused to hear the MD case. So the 4th Circuit ban stands.

Which is BS because Roberts even said that the ruling was sketchy because so many folks own them and they are in common use. But the liberal justices along with Roberts and Kavanaugh and Barrett sided with the communists to shoot down hearing the appeal.

This is total BS...

Need to use the Autopen scandal to remove the POS that Biden appointed and get another hard core 2A person in. Of course, that's what we should have had with Kavanaugh and Barrett. But turns out they must have dirt on them or they are fake conservatives...

What a shitshow.

Sirhr

 

[Dirty D]

POS Scotus justices refused to hear the MD case. So the 4th Circuit ban stands.

Which is BS because Roberts even said that the ruling was sketchy because so many folks own them and they are in common use. But the liberal justices along with Roberts and Kavanaugh and Barrett sided with the communists to shoot down hearing the appeal.

This is total BS...

Need to use the Autopen scandal to remove the POS that Biden appointed and get another hard core 2A person in. Of course, that's what we should have had with Kavanaugh and Barrett. But turns out they must have dirt on them or they are fake conservatives...

What a shitshow.

Sirhr

If another district rules the other way it will create a district split which will pretty much force SCOTUS to take a case and resolve the split, it’s just a matter of time.

 

[Franko]

If another district rules the other way it will create a district split which will pretty much force SCOTUS to take a case and resolve the split, it’s just a matter of time.

Circuit spits for Second Amendment issues are unlikely to happen because the anti-gun states are banning guns but the pro-gun states just aren't doing anything so they aren't producing legislation and court cases for the pro-gun side of the "split". It sucks at at this point we are going to need a change in Supreme Court composition and the odds aren't in our favor.

 

[Mongo68]

Circuit spits for Second Amendment issues are unlikely to happen because the anti-gun states are banning guns but the pro-gun states just aren't doing anything so they aren't producing legislation and court cases for the pro-gun side of the "split". It sucks at at this point we are going to need a change in Supreme Court composition and the odds aren't in our favor.

What happens ( besides hell freezing over) if SC decides to overturn a different circuit ruling on same issue? Say the 9th ( since it’s the most overturned circuit anyway).
Does it override this POS ruling?

 

[Franko]

What happens ( besides hell freezing over) if SC decides to overturn a different circuit ruling on same issue? Say the 9th ( since it’s the most overturned circuit anyway).
Does it override this POS ruling?

It could, but the Supreme Court would have to take a case where the law at issue is an AW ban and then the SC would have to make a ruling that changed the current test for constitutionality (e.g., Bruen). This would allow everyone another attempt to go to court and say all current laws are not in compliance with the new standard. This means lots of more fighting in court and years of waiting.

The denial for cert for Snopes was a big blow to pro Second Amendment forces.