Iran go boom

Even under your scenario the bombing was a success. You can't see it due to suffering from TDS.
How does it feel to have Trump living in your head? Wait, is it Trump or a superiority complex?
Like i wrote multiple time strike it did exactly what was supposed to do, get everyone exit ramps to stop the war , it just did not destroy any nuclear facilities and they knew it before commiting to it . I am far from TDS
 
Like i wrote multiple time strike it did exactly what was supposed to do, get everyone exit ramps to stop the war , it just did not destroy any nuclear facilities and they knew it before commiting to it . I am far from TDS

Even bigger than that.
Trump got Iran to go along with the plan.
There's a lot to that.
The only people that know how much damage was done are the Iranians.
Who is the "they" that supposedly knew it wouldn't work before committing to it?
I gotta say that I am impressed by how much you claim to know.
 
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Like i wrote multiple time strike it did exactly what was supposed to do, get everyone exit ramps to stop the war , it just did not destroy any nuclear facilities and they knew it before commiting to it . I am far from TDS
The point is you are commenting about something, like its facts, that you don’t know.

If you approached them as your opinion. All good.

But if you are going to throw salt about the effectiveness of our armed forces and blow it off as some Boeing scam to bleed the tax payer. You better come correct with some facts.
 
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Israel wants a regime change war, as do some US chicken hawks.

100% what that story is, same reporter who ran with a bunch of CIA sponsored RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crap a few years ago. Now they are running with a story that Trump's bombing run wasn't enough and we need more action. They want another war.
 
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The fact of the matter is there’s not a swinging Richard in this thread that actually knows the degree to which these strikes were successful. All speculation colored by each individual’s personal perspective, which is also colored by one’s current opinions relative to the current Administration and the federal government in general.
And the fact of the matter is, thats pretty much the skinny on every story that comes through the Pit. Lots of opinions and attitudes, very little substance. As someone said to me years back, "Welcome to the internet."
 
If real...

I have to imagine the circle of people with eyes on that report is pretty f'n small... hope the nail the ass of whoever leaked details of HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE.

Can't help but think this shit - right here - is why 1. OPSEC for Midnight Hammer was a big deal and 2. Congress wasn't told more sooner.
Dad told me... In Vietnam, we had so many security leaks; they'd hand carry Top Secret orders from Vietnam to Washington.
Within 24 hours they'd pick up the transmission of those orders, being wired from Russia consulate to Vietnam.
 
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So who got added to that group text?
If you remember. It was the CIA/FBI that installed the encrypted software on all the incoming Trump people's phones, tablets, computers and other communication stuff.
So pretty much everyone in those alphabets and probably a few others have access. They don't have to add someone to the group chat. They are already in it automatically.
 
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If you remember. It was the CIA/FBI that installed the encrypted software on all the incoming Trump people's phones, tablets, computers and other communication stuff.
So pretty much everyone in those alphabets and probably a few others have access. They don't have to add someone to the group chat. They are already in it automatically.
I thought somebody I can’t remember his name right now. I don’t have time to look it up took the blame for adding that guy, the journalist who released it. Referencing the hourhi strikes.

Unless you’re talking about something else.
 
i saw an interesting take on Epoch Times. was said that the strikes weren't very effective. Trump knows and doesn't care. the strikes gave him some room around the Israeli loving butt lickers here in the US. now he can say he saved them and maybe they they will shut up. does seem Beni is pissed with that and no follow up invasion and further attacks. in no way do the Jews want peace with Iran or anyone else in ME.
will be interesting to see. if Beni doesn't stay in absolute power,he goes to prison with his wife for a long time. hard to know what common people in Israel really think. seems they would get tired of all the body bags.
 
i saw an interesting take on Epoch Times. was said that the strikes weren't very effective. Trump knows and doesn't care. the strikes gave him some room around the Israeli loving butt lickers here in the US. now he can say he saved them and maybe they they will shut up. does seem Beni is pissed with that and no follow up invasion and further attacks. in no way do the Jews want peace with Iran or anyone else in ME.
will be interesting to see. if Beni doesn't stay in absolute power,he goes to prison with his wife for a long time. hard to know what common people in Israel really think. seems they would get tired of all the body bags.

I think it's way more likely the MIC here in USA wants war with Iran which is why they leaked that document about the strike being ineffective. They want people to pressure Trump to launch more missiles.
 
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I have thought about this. It could be for a couple reasons:

1. The reports are true, the MOPs didn’t do thier job.

2. The centrifuges were indeed destroyed but the material was moved to other locations - make it, move it; repeat continuously and disperse the finished product across multiple sites FOR YEARS so as to preserve as much as possible while allowing the known production site to be hit while preserving the uranium as well as other unknown production and storage sites.

3. They had advanced knowledge the strikes were coming and GTFO was the order for all critical items that were not bolted down. See #2. I mean, hell, it was all over the news and internet before it happened. It’s almost like it was intentional telegraphing and backchanneling. Not totally unlike the missiles being shot into Qatar, which has its own series of implications.

4. The Iranians are completely and irredeemably stupid and inbred to the point that they left everything there and it was actually obliterated.

what are the odds that ONLY #1 or #4 is totally correct? Even the Iranians aren’t that stupid. I wager the threat is still there.
And just like that...




 
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Been listening/studying back room gossip, as well as some frag reports, seems there is/was lots of smoke & mirrors in this game of tag & who has the biggest dick. People are trying to justify their tool worth & ego stroking ,that was all negated via loose lips 3-4 days prior. Guessing Drop dead Gorgeous Tit's & Pussy handing stuffed Envelops is still, a working M/O
 
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i saw an interesting take on Epoch Times. was said that the strikes weren't very effective. Trump knows and doesn't care. the strikes gave him some room around the Israeli loving butt lickers here in the US. now he can say he saved them and maybe they they will shut up. does seem Beni is pissed with that and no follow up invasion and further attacks. in no way do the Jews want peace with Iran or anyone else in ME.
will be interesting to see. if Beni doesn't stay in absolute power,he goes to prison with his wife for a long time. hard to know what common people in Israel really think. seems they would get tired of all the body bags.

I think this is the case.

Even before this operation was commenced, there was numerous reports coming out talking about how the admin was very cautious about using bunker busters as there was a lot of doubt they would get the job done.

Trump likely performed the operation anyways to appease Netanyahu and the hawks (to a degree), and giving himself an "out" to avoid more war (that Netanyahu and the said hawks want).

Trump can save face and avoid further war by saying he's done his part. The reality doesn't really matter (in regards to how much damage actually was done).

The tight rope now hangs in the balance of Israel and Iran, how they respond and whether either party pursues to escalate. I know Netanyahu wants a regime change war with Iran, and it wouldn't surprise me if they continued to commit to that. However they know they can't accomplish that without the US, and if Trump stands strong against Netanyahu perhaps we can avoid this regime change war afterall.

Time will tell.
 
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The fact of the matter is there’s not a swinging Richard in this thread that actually knows the degree to which these strikes were successful. All speculation colored by each individual’s personal perspective, which is also colored by one’s current opinions relative to the current Administration and the federal government in general.
Exactly the point I was trying to make to our resident expert. This my opinion (emphasis on "opinion"): From the moment I heard about the strike, I thought I'd be very surprised if it was 100% effective at permanent destruction. I'd also be very surprised if it were 0% effective. I do expect it to be somewhere in between, but have no idea which of those numbers it leans towards. So for now, we wait.

One thought I had is, if it only sealed the entrances enough to take a few months/years to dig out, they make it a stipulation that it remain untouched or anyone going near it is going to get zapped. If they "knew", as has been posited, that it wouldn't completely penetrate, this could have been the strategy? I don't know, just an idea.
 

*feigns shock and surprise that our beloved "ally" Israel would think of such things* 😱
 
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i saw an interesting take on Epoch Times. was said that the strikes weren't very effective. Trump knows and doesn't care. the strikes gave him some room around the Israeli loving butt lickers here in the US. now he can say he saved them and maybe they they will shut up. does seem Beni is pissed with that and no follow up invasion and further attacks. in no way do the Jews want peace with Iran or anyone else in ME.
will be interesting to see. if Beni doesn't stay in absolute power,he goes to prison with his wife for a long time. hard to know what common people in Israel really think. seems they would get tired of all the body bags.
I do not find Epoch Times a credible source - run by Chinese dissidents with their own agenda
 
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Yesterday I heard, the number was much, much higher & some were returned cut up, in plastic bags ??

as it should be after washing all info out of them. we have several in prison for life from China AND Israel. only ? is were they really spies or just domestic opposition labeled spies so they could be executed. it is Iran,so...
 
Yesterday I heard, the number was much, much higher & some were returned cut up, in plastic bags ??

That reads like it was written by Baghdad Bob (or, Tehran Tom?) himself.
Oh, wait -

Also, “smuggled in a load of alcoholic drinks”. I thought alcohol was banned there? Why would you choose that?
 
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That reads like it was written by Baghdad Bob (or, Tehran Tom?) himself.
Oh, wait -
The first casualty of war is always the truth, but I do not doubt those who speak'ih to me, YMMV.
In the coming weeks & months the truth will sort its self out, always does. Guess the question is, can a set of Tits trump mega buck tools, my guess is,.... Oh hell yes,...
 
of course they can say whatever they want...

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It’s an interesting parsing of words. Facilities mentioned but not enriched uranium.

The other thing is that now that Iran cannot refine uranium, which is the reason Bibi said they were attacking Iran, and Trump has backed off regime change there will need to be a new reason to go after Iran. Or new evidence.
 
It’s an interesting parsing of words. Facilities mentioned but not enriched uranium.

The other thing is that now that Iran cannot refine uranium, which is the reason Bibi said they were attacking Iran, and Trump has backed off regime change there will need to be a new reason to go after Iran. Or new evidence.
also lost the ability to turn enriched uranium into a uranium metal required for a bomb, which was supposedly going to be done at one of the sites.
 
Is the US the only country on this rock, that is always 100% truthful, and everything told to its public is gospel?

Well, up until 2012 it was at least tacitly illegal and frowned upon… Since then, I’d believe the ramblings of a meth head on a NY City street corner more than what I hear from most media.

I believe Obama’s actions by repealing Smith-Mundt did more damage to our Republic, and to our way of life than 100 years of socialist creep. Once trust is gone, we lose it all.

That trust will be almost impossible to rebuild, but with Trump we at least have a chance to replace that trust in our government and other institutions…despite his hubris and ego.