Sturm Ruger has bought Anderson Manufacturing
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Shit. Poverty pony lowers will now cost $122.39.
Here's to the last of the $29.99 lowers.
Here's to the last of the $29.99 lowers.
Cool. 2 companies about which I give zero fucks.
Will the quality get better or worse? Yes, definitely.
Will the quality get better or worse? Yes, definitely.
With few exceptions, companies come and go. Whether liked or disliked doesn't seem as important as just providing more options to choose from.
They're a good machine shop with bad firearms standards. Ruger got a new machine shop, that's it. Really nothing to see here other than Ruger keeping up on production more effectively.
Adios to the worst AR manufacturer there was.
Adios to the worst AR manufacturer there was.
Ruger already said as much. They get an experienced work force and an already tooled shop. It’s perfect for them.
Something was for sale, someone bought it.
In the grand scheme of things, I guess I’m glad Ruger bought it and is intent to continue operations using the existing workforce.
I’ve read a few posts online speculating as to why Anderson was in a position to sell, but in the end, it doesn’t matter much - American workers who have been building America’s Rifle for many years are going to keep doing so, and doing so under what is apparently a more stable corporation.
In the grand scheme of things, I guess I’m glad Ruger bought it and is intent to continue operations using the existing workforce.
I’ve read a few posts online speculating as to why Anderson was in a position to sell, but in the end, it doesn’t matter much - American workers who have been building America’s Rifle for many years are going to keep doing so, and doing so under what is apparently a more stable corporation.
One shitty gun company bought another shitty brand.
Like what is the point. Poverty pony has zero value as a brand. Better off selling Ruger branded lowers not that they would since Ruger is gay ass fudd shit.
Like what is the point. Poverty pony has zero value as a brand. Better off selling Ruger branded lowers not that they would since Ruger is gay ass fudd shit.
Wonder if they will keep the roll mark or pull it all under Ruger? Anderson doesn't have a good, or even decent, reputation. Would make sense to discard the name entirely.
Sounds like they bought it for the facility, machinery and staff.
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Make me a list of acceptable brands we should all own
Could we also get a list of acceptable AND affordable brands we should all own?
Ruger’s announcements directly stated that they bought the manufacturing assets, are discontinuing the Anderson brand, and will be using the facilities and existing workforce to expand their own brand production.
He's ignored otherwise I wouldn't see.
The plight on the poor. The struggle is real...
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How the hell am I ignored when all your posts show up to me?
Remember to give your balls a tug. I’m sure I’m not the only one who would LOVE to see your acceptable list of equipment.
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Not saying that you are completely wrong, but there are people with a limited budget. While they should be spending their money on a BCM, Daniel Defense, etc there can be exceptions. I started with a DPMS and a Bushmaster. The DPMS gave me fits but the Bushmaster was reliable.
Today I depend on BCM at a minimum and KAC at the upper end, and own some PSA stuff that has been fun and reliable. The lower tiered stuff enticed me into the AR world and that will attract the Ruger/Anderson crowd.
BCM makes a good product for the money.
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I’ve ran BCM and PSA with no issues and issues, but everything has the potential for a problem.
Anderson lowers are/were just a vehicle for components and made fine blasters and plinkers.
I just get tired of hearing the constant “trash, trash trash” talk from some people. I don’t lose any sleep over it by any means.
The Anderson lowers seemed to be a great value for the money. The rest of their stuff, including the LPKs were always suspect. I have seen issues with them.
It really comes down to the intended use. A weekender who occasionally does a couple mag dumps, the training junkie who puts 500 rounds through an AR per day in a class, or the precision shooter trying to win a match all have different goals.
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If you're "ignored" - he can't see your posts, but you can still see his. You're not "blocked" on forums like you can on facebook where the blocked person can't see what someone posts, AND vice versa.
guess I need to go throw my #1, #3, 77/22's and 10/22's in the trash!! never knew...
I couldn’t wait any longer for Accuracy International to make a snub nosed 454 so I caved and bought a Ruger Alaskan.
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Couldn’t agree more. Desired outcome drives it all
You could have done worse....
First AR lower I built on is my daughter's pony. Mostly shoots .22LR, never a problem with it. Looks like there won't be another, oh well.
Need a mini 14 to complete the basic bitch starter pack. Ron Spomer would approve.
Ruger does make very nice revolvers. About the only thing they make worth owning.
$29-39 blister packs.
Most gun consumers are uneducated. That's why there is a market for all this cheap shit. They don't understand the industry, the products the players,ect
Like most in here they are talking out their ass because they have little/no experience or a sample size of one. They aren't seeing how a fleet of these products perform. They aren't seeing what the factory is accepting or rejecting, if they are even doing any form of ac/qc. They don't know many times rejected batches of OEM parts from reputable companies then get sold as economy parts to highest bidder. It's why you will get an anderson or aero lower with holes drilled up incorrectly or even missing. Things that would never happen with certain quality manufactures due to actual quality control.
Quantity does not equal quality. Lowest price does not mean value. Value is a combination of price and quality. You need quality for there to be value. Most consumers only own one or two ARs. They don't shoot them. They don't test them and they have no idea how to run them. Their opinions on the subject are worthless. Like many opinions in here from novices and rookies with little experience on the platform. They are not all equal.
The mk1,2,3,4 series of pistols are good. Always liked my 10/22's for what they are. The mini 14 needs to use ar mags. Strangely enough, the only revolver of theirs I like is the Blackhawk. And I wouldn't mind a number 1 in 220 swift.
This is absolutely correct. They made AR stuff for some top manufacturers before they did their own. They were told to make there guns higher quality and price accordingly. Instead they held bad tolerance and did huge volume. I quit using their stuff years ago
Super red hawk in 45lc is their Goldilocks pistol.
The buckmark is a better .22 pistol and the 10/22 is cheap pot metal and plastic shit. I have a first year production one but anyone buying one today who cares about accuracy or quality is doing a kidd or volquartson build.
All knowing Oompa Loompa, please show the class the Ruger Super Redhawk 45 Colt model…
Between you and dumbfuhq I’m not sure who is the more confidently stupid person on this forum.
I think people get a bit too wrapped up around the roll mark. A lower receiver is just a fixture to hold the other bits in alignment. The forgings for MANY brands are all coming from a few foundries. If Anderson had a 50% fuck up rate- which they certainly did not, you’re still money ahead buying one of them over most any other brand.
I mean, if expensive stuff makes your dick hard, rock on.
I have one Anderson lower. It’s on a rifle I used for PRS. Matched with an Anderson upper housing a JP barrel that is an absolute tack driver, it was not the receiver set holding back my scores.
Are there “better” receivers? I’m gong to need a definition of “better.” The receiver I have has not been a failure point in any of the recreational/competition shooting I have used it for. All of the holes align properly for all of the bits that it houses.
Are there receivers with more features? Yes. Are there companies that make receivers with a much lower rate of fucked-up-ness? Yes. Is a $400 receiver that functions correctly “better” than a $49 receiver that functions correctly? Not in my book. Hell, I’ll go so far as to say that one $400 receiver that functions correctly is worse than three $49 receivers that function correctly and 5 that do not.
I mean, if expensive stuff makes your dick hard, rock on.
I have one Anderson lower. It’s on a rifle I used for PRS. Matched with an Anderson upper housing a JP barrel that is an absolute tack driver, it was not the receiver set holding back my scores.
Are there “better” receivers? I’m gong to need a definition of “better.” The receiver I have has not been a failure point in any of the recreational/competition shooting I have used it for. All of the holes align properly for all of the bits that it houses.
Are there receivers with more features? Yes. Are there companies that make receivers with a much lower rate of fucked-up-ness? Yes. Is a $400 receiver that functions correctly “better” than a $49 receiver that functions correctly? Not in my book. Hell, I’ll go so far as to say that one $400 receiver that functions correctly is worse than three $49 receivers that function correctly and 5 that do not.
My favorite Ruger Super Redhawk in 45 Colt is the one with the simplified single spring action, which makes tuning the trigger pull so much easier than their other model.
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Is this a trick question?
Kidding aside, congrats to Ruger for getting an apparently good machine shop with trained staff, at a presumably very good price.
Forging is not a machined product. That means nothing.
And money ahead doesn't mean shit when you need it to go bang and it goes click.
Cheap ends up costing more in the long run.
Of you mean like this one?My favorite Ruger Super Redhawk in 45 Colt is the one with the simplified single spring action, which makes tuning the trigger pull so much easier than their other model.
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454, 45lc, ect.
Brother when everything fit together on the early ones I used a bunch of them. When they let QC go and I had to spend extra hours making poorly machined upper and lowers fit together they lost me
The funny thing is they were capable of making anything from NASA spec to up armor for military vehicles and banks. The brothers who owned it are great guys they just grew to fast and lost control of QC
Honest question. How much testing does one need to do to be confident that a gun will go bang and not click, when it is supposed to? One mag? One case of cartridges?
Complete a local comp without a failure? 5000 round torture test by Robski at AKOU? I ask because Century AKs have passed the latter, and you only need to attend your local PRS match to see $4000 rifles fail the former.
Complete a local comp without a failure? 5000 round torture test by Robski at AKOU? I ask because Century AKs have passed the latter, and you only need to attend your local PRS match to see $4000 rifles fail the former.
The couple of Anderson lowers I have look better than a bunch of higher end lowers. No experience with anything else they made.
Well, there is the No 1. And the Red Label. And the Number 3. Oh and the MkII .22 is as reliable as gravity. And the Old Army. Ruger makes great guns they are inexpensive because they use (and have always used) state or the art manufacturing and design-for-mfg.
Like the Model T Ford. It was an inexpensive car, not a cheap car. It was inexpensive because of volume. When you make 15,000,000 model T’s you can sell them cheap and engineer them well.
Sirhr
I'd say yes...1 mag bone dry, and a case (1k) starting properly lubed and can digest a case of decent ammo with no further assistance or surprises. That's minimum point of entry.
On top of that, maintaining a specific accuracy standard a minimum of 3x beyond what is expected.
Century AK's and PRS rifles.... kinda like comparing a railroad spike and scalpel because they're wedge tools....
It comes with the PRS rig territory.
The trigger construction, action tolerances, and magazine modification for capacity and to feed these cartridges...it shouldn't be a mystery why they shit the bed when so much is leveraged toward performance over reliability.
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I'm going to take a guess here and say that there is a good probability the Anderson labeled stuff were factory seconds. It was all the stuff that failed QC for the higher end companies they were making stuff for.
Congratulations? That doesn't bear out in the examples I have. Feel free to buy, or don't buy, as you see fit.
No sorry that’s not correct. They just decided to hold greater tolerances for there own branded stuff so they could produce more
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