Dem lawmakers say their voters are threatening 'blood' and 'violence' over inability to hinder Trump: report

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Democratic lawmakers say their voters are enraged at the lack of ability to counter President Donald Trump's agenda, with some saying they could resort to "violence," Axios reported Monday.

The outlet says it spoke to over two dozen House Democrats to measure the temperature of the Democratic base. What it found was red-hot anger and a burgeoning desire to circumvent the rule of law, where explanations that Democrats simply don't hold enough power in Washington fall on deaf ears.

"We've got people who are desperately wanting us to do something... no matter what we say, they want [more]," Rep. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., told the outlet.

Most of the lawmakers spoke on condition of anonymity. Schneider's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.

"Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough... [that] there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public," one such lawmaker said.

Another said their constituents are convinced that "civility isn't working" and that they should prepare for "violence... to fight to protect our democracy."

A third lawmaker described some of the messages from people online as "crazy ****," saying that some told them to "storm the White House and stuff like that."

Other constituents have insisted that lawmakers take on the risk themselves, with one lawmaker saying they were told they should be willing to get "shot."

"What I have seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally or allow ourselves to be victims of violence, and... a lot of times that's coming from economically very secure White people," another lawmaker said.

 
Democratic lawmakers say their voters are enraged at the lack of ability to counter President Donald Trump's agenda, with some saying they could resort to "violence," Axios reported Monday.

The outlet says it spoke to over two dozen House Democrats to measure the temperature of the Democratic base. What it found was red-hot anger and a burgeoning desire to circumvent the rule of law, where explanations that Democrats simply don't hold enough power in Washington fall on deaf ears.

"We've got people who are desperately wanting us to do something... no matter what we say, they want [more]," Rep. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., told the outlet.

Most of the lawmakers spoke on condition of anonymity. Schneider's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.

"Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough... [that] there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public," one such lawmaker said.

Another said their constituents are convinced that "civility isn't working" and that they should prepare for "violence... to fight to protect our democracy."

A third lawmaker described some of the messages from people online as "crazy ****," saying that some told them to "storm the White House and stuff like that."

Other constituents have insisted that lawmakers take on the risk themselves, with one lawmaker saying they were told they should be willing to get "shot."

"What I have seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally or allow ourselves to be victims of violence, and... a lot of times that's coming from economically very secure White people," another lawmaker said.


If the left starts it, Americans would resolve it- fully and quickly. It would be a much more comprehensive solution than any political fix.
 
Democratic lawmakers say their voters are enraged at the lack of ability to counter President Donald Trump's agenda, with some saying they could resort to "violence," Axios reported Monday.

The outlet says it spoke to over two dozen House Democrats to measure the temperature of the Democratic base. What it found was red-hot anger and a burgeoning desire to circumvent the rule of law, where explanations that Democrats simply don't hold enough power in Washington fall on deaf ears.

"We've got people who are desperately wanting us to do something... no matter what we say, they want [more]," Rep. Brad Schneider, D-Ill., told the outlet.

Most of the lawmakers spoke on condition of anonymity. Schneider's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital.

"Our own base is telling us that what we're doing is not good enough... [that] there needs to be blood to grab the attention of the press and the public," one such lawmaker said.

Another said their constituents are convinced that "civility isn't working" and that they should prepare for "violence... to fight to protect our democracy."

A third lawmaker described some of the messages from people online as "crazy ****," saying that some told them to "storm the White House and stuff like that."

Other constituents have insisted that lawmakers take on the risk themselves, with one lawmaker saying they were told they should be willing to get "shot."

"What I have seen is a demand that we get ourselves arrested intentionally or allow ourselves to be victims of violence, and... a lot of times that's coming from economically very secure White people," another lawmaker said.

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I'm sure nobody is surprised by this. They don't have any idea what they are pushing for, and if they get what they want, they will wish with their dying breaths that they hadn't, but so be it, if it is to be. I wonder if they realize that democrats are already responsible for almost all of the violence in this country now, and have been for decades. Stay strapped or get clapped.
 
So I was talking to a retired Green Beret Colonel who served in Afghanistan, currently a swamp creature, he thinks 2A should be a Privilege and not a Right, tried to educate to deaf ears, many liberals imbedded in our Military.
He's lying. That is not a retired sf colonel. Stolen valor is everywhere. Learn to spot it.

SF colonel's are about the rarest thing on earth. If you understood their rank structure, you'd know why I'm saying this. There are more people who have been bitten by sharks and also struck by lighting at the same time then there are people who hold the rank of full bird in SF, and none of those people are anti-2A. They wouldn't be there if they were.
 
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The problem the demo have is ,they let the 2% of their base (gays, lesbians, transgender drag qweens and other lunatics grab the spotlight and the Msm is running with it ,so it looks like all the democrats are batshit crazy, which I doubt they are , but until they separate themselves from that base I don't think they will ever be taken seriously again, just my thoughts on the matter .
 
I've always thought that un-blooded right wing mouth breathers hope for a Red Dawn invasion, but the left wing mouth breathers hope for civil war.

So you're telling me that the people who were burning the flag of our REPUBLIC on the 4th of July are going to start killing Americans to "protect democracy"? That actually sounds about right when I type it out.
 
He's lying. That is not a retired sf colonel. Stolen valor is everywhere. Learn to spot it.

SF colonel's are about the rarest thing on earth. If you understood their rank structure, you'd know why I'm saying this. There are more people who have been bitten by sharks and also struck by lighting at the same time then there are people who hold the rank of full bird in SF, and none of those people are anti-2A. They wouldn't be there if they were.
Incorrect very much the real deal and I was shocked that he believed you should have training in order to buy a gun. I know him on a very personal level, he is very active with Military Colleges, smart as hell, launching in with Thomas Paine and the Federalist Papers got no response. I was saddened.
 
Incorrect very much the real deal and I was shocked that he believed you should have training in order to buy a gun. I know him on a very personal level, he is very active with Military Colleges, smart as hell, launching in with Thomas Paine and the Federalist Papers got no response. I was saddened.
There's always a chance that I'm wrong, but that would shock me. Would you be willing to pm me his name so I can get him verified?
 
Incorrect very much the real deal and I was shocked that he believed you should have training in order to buy a gun. I know him on a very personal level, he is very active with Military Colleges, smart as hell, launching in with Thomas Paine and the Federalist Papers got no response. I was saddened.

I know an 0-6 retired tank commander who is just like him! Nobody needs an AR-15 type
 
There's always a chance that I'm wrong, but that would shock me. Would you be willing to pm me his name so I can get him verified?
Absolutely not, he is a close family friend just East Coast raised, I think the world of him, he is just incorrect. I had another go round with a Seal Sniper Instructor, Team 3, who thought the same, I Pm’ed him on his forum and reminded him who I was and our mutual friends and history,it worked. I blame our educational system, we don’t teach founders history in our schools, look at the Vindman’s or Mark Kelly. GW Bush tired to kill Heller, amazing how dumbed down we have become of the reasons for the Republic.
 
Communist in the USA doing what Communists have always resorted to in order to gain or retain power
We've had "commies" in this country, since the 20's. Came here after WW1. Then there was WW2. We are now experiencing the results of those "refugees". Hell, the SAG was full of them. Yes...Hollywood, offspring and all. It's all coming to a head now.
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What do you mean “they will resort to violence?”

Judging by the news over the past year, they are well over the line and accelerating. Assassins, mass shootings, street violence, arson, attacking teslas, shooting ice agents….

Oh is that referred to as “mostly non-violent?”

Sirhr
 
I've always thought that un-blooded right wing mouth breathers hope for a Red Dawn invasion, but the left wing mouth breathers hope for civil war.

So you're telling me that the people who were burning the flag of our REPUBLIC on the 4th of July are going to start killing Americans to "protect democracy"? That actually sounds about right when I type it out.
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What do you mean “they will resort to violence?”

Judging by the news over the past year, they are well over the line and accelerating. Assassins, mass shootings, street violence, arson, attacking teslas, shooting ice agents….

Oh is that referred to as “mostly non-violent?”

Sirhr
Just the Teslas part.
 
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These threads are always full or LARPers “they don’t stand a chance, it’ll be over quick…blah blah blah” we had trouble fighting jungle Asians and people 2 steps above troglodytes with billions in weaponry. Don’t forget the 10-12 year olds with near zero training smoking our guys.
Pretty sure you can replace the Jung
 
Incorrect very much the real deal and I was shocked that he believed you should have training in order to buy a gun. I know him on a very personal level, he is very active with Military Colleges, smart as hell, launching in with Thomas Paine and the Federalist Papers got no response. I was saddened.
If you drill him down with the right questions after a couple rounds of 2 fingers of a nice 20+ year scotch, I'd bet you'd be able to figure out exactly which people he believes generally shouldn't be allowed to have guns 🌚 ✊🏾✊🏿 + commies ... and which should 🤍 👍🏼👍🏻 (not the commies)

Just my opinion after a number of decades "in the system"
 
These threads are always full or LARPers “they don’t stand a chance, it’ll be over quick…blah blah blah” we had trouble fighting jungle Asians and people 2 steps above troglodytes with billions in weaponry. Don’t forget the 10-12 year olds with near zero training smoking our guys.

There's a lot of truth to that.
If the ROEs were lifted completely, the outcome would be very different
 
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With modern tools & no rules unlike all US wars save the 1860's, they would/well get dealt with rapidly, once the ROL goes away. That perception is what as allowed most shit in this country to flourish.
No rules? Surely you gest.
How many politicians have been eliminated in any war? Who starts wars and who fights them?
Who's starting this one? Who's going to protect the instigator?
Ohh, there's going to be rules because people don't understand what needs to be eliminated first to settle the dust the quickest.
 
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Ive been hearing this rhetoric since '08. Of course it mostly comes from the dem side, but both sides are guilty of it. I think most of the feelings we get each day come from the garbage the news (all of it, even the independents on youtube) chooses to cover. The news wants to keep you feeling nervous and anxious all the time. It's bullshit really. Even if violent crime really was at an all time high, covering it on the news does what? Nothing. Except keep you on edge and make your outlook even dimmer, leading to just more nervousness and feelings of hopelessness lol.
Overall, people (especially these purple haired fat ass limp wristed gay communist liberal democrats) will do nothing about it. Ever. Neither will our side. Why? Well, the game's on! So and so is playing sportsball. Did you see how many yards he ran for 34 years ago, 23 March 1991? Or, you got a new app on your little cell phone. Or, like most of us, we have to work lol. No time to just take a day off to go marching around town with a little sign protesting something.
Nothings going to happen. If it all comes crashing down the government loses all their tax money because now we're not working much less investing. Where we are right now is precisely where they want us. Working every day and investing (somewhat) and buying shit, but a little nervous every day. Fat, out of shape, slow, uneducated, with hormonal inbalances, but still capable of generating taxes-so they can control us, and keep us pliable and complacent lol. If something were to happen I feel it would have already done so. Just my opinion of course.
 
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These threads are always full or LARPers “they don’t stand a chance, it’ll be over quick…blah blah blah” we had trouble fighting jungle Asians and people 2 steps above troglodytes with billions in weaponry. Don’t forget the 10-12 year olds with near zero training smoking our guys.
If you're speaking of military deployments, remember, we had some super tight ROE's in those theaters. Dating back to Vietnam. If the gloves were off, it would have been a very different story, and a much shorter timeline. You cant compare that to a civil war where the structure breaks down-those are two very different scenarios.
And the 'larpers' or overweight guys with vivid imaginations and a lot of estrogen that have never served a day in uniform much less a combat MOS, this country does have a lot of those, but they also now have a lot of guys that served in the military with overseas deployments as well. True those dudes are startin' to age out but they're still around.
IF the right and left really did initiate a large scale, high intensity conflict, which would never happen, there would have to be a winner (by numbers; no one truly wins a civil war) and I just dont think the left has what is necessary to win.
 
I just dont think the left has what is necessary to win.

IMHO, what the 'hard left' really doesn't have the numbers. Not that I think an actual conflict is likely, but the left is a tiny vocal, outspoken and radical percentage of people in America. If it is even a percent, I'd be shocked. Given that traditionally, three percent have served in one form of uniorm or another... I'd guess that the far-out radical left is in the tens of housands. Not the 'millions' or hundreds of millions like they want you to believe.

But they will make themselves sound like millions by using media and violence and 'in your face' tactics to look like they are somehow a majority and give the illusion that they will 'rule' with democracy... if the evil fascist oppressors are removed from their shining path. when really their numbers are a joke and they are anything but a plurality.

To the above posts re. the media and 'keeping people on edge'... absolutely! They also make tiny minorities look like huge scary groups. As much so you keep coming back to the news in order to see how scary things are... or whether you are are at risk. Which means ratings, which means ad revenue. Which means everything to the news business. They also push 'agendas' that are divisive because many get 'into' that business to be activists and push their agendas. J-school now is about churning out activists, not reporters. Look at how all of it plays up the Pride movement (in reality, tiny minority) but that lifestyle represents a huge part of media... TV shows, commercials, films, music... Jamming it down people's throats and making it look like a huge segment of the population, not a statistical blip or abberation.

There was a famous story of Reagan back when he was President of the Screen Actors Guild (or one of the unions) and there was a divisive meeting/get-together/vote or something in a big auditorum. In the crowd, he recognized a known communist agitator who had been 'organizing' in Hollywood for years. The agitator was named Popsky. In front of the audience he was addressing, Reagan stopped and pointed out Popsky and said "I know you, Popsky. I know who you are and what you do. And you are going to try have a handful of agitators in the audience screaming and yelling and trying to sound like hundreds." He told the audience not to fall for it. He knew exactly how it worked, having been threatened with death and disfigurement (the left in Hollywood threatened to throw acid on his face because he was against their radicalism). And he knew how to communicate. It's what made him such a fierce anti-communist and an effective politician. And he knew how a tiny radical group can look massive if they are loud (and violent) enough.

The good news is that when they are small enough and when cross the line of violence and lawlessness far enough, they can be put back in cages. For a generation or two... until people forget. And back they come. Utopian fantasies and violence to make sure you agree with them. Dealing with a few thousand criminal activists is not the hardest thing to do when the forces of law and order can focus on the job at hand.

Sirhr
 
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Exactly what the string pullers want. Fight amongst yourselves destroying the nation so they can rule over the ashes.
Instead of focusing on the causation we are doing what they want by looking at the distraction.

All the world is a stage.
The left is that causation you speak of.

Russia was just fine until the left showed up and inflicted communism on them. So was China, Cambodia, and many others.