Flooding in TX Hill Country/Kerrville



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I can hear the lawyers schemeing now..."Who can we sue?":mad:

The camp will get it first, failure to notify of impending danger.

Then anyone else they can think of.
Here's a parallel tidbit that some of you may not know.

Remember all the looting/rioting and destroyed small businesses after the George Floyd "protests"? How did those small businesses fare in their litigation to recover?

How about businesses that were ruined by the covid shutdowns? Could they recover? Did they recover?

Strange how litigation plays out in the 21st Century.
 
On July 3, ahead of the deadly flooding in Central Texas, the NWS offices in Austin and San Antonio conducted forecast briefings for emergency management in the morning and issued a Flood Watch in the early afternoon. Flash Flood Warnings were issued on the morning of July 4, giving preliminary lead times of more than three hours before warning criteria were met.
I've disabled these alerts on my phone because they would go off in the middle of the night for south Texas when I'm in Dallas.

 
Today 7 of our members are providing comms support for teams searching for remains. Weather: scattered cloud, hot and high humidity. These young folks are working unceasingly. They are walking the river and floating on rafts. I’m on a station in the center of a big horseshoe bend in the river30 miles downstream from Kerrville. No reporters, no looky-loos, just some grim face fire/rescue and Leo teams including two dog teams. Fire ants, snakes, heat, humidity all conspire but nobody is quitting. Helicopters flying low and slow. 3 LEO teams and a dog team have inserted at my location alone. 1,000 searchers are in the next town north.
Supplies are coming in. HEB is doing a great job and several restaurants are feeding crews. This is so different from the way North Carolina was handled.
Typical of the press, they are trying to pin blame on whomever it sticks. Note that there is very little or poor cell service. While many alerts were published nobody was awakened by alarms or alerts in the upper reaches of the disaster.
Secondly the city of Kerrville does not extend to Ingram or Hunt. Giving grief to city managers and systems is inappropriate.
Note also: I haven’t seen a single antifa, or lgbtqxyz helping here. Not a single blue hair.
 
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Today 7 of our members are providing comms support for teams searching for scattered cloud, hot and high humidity. These young folks are working unremittingly. They are walking the river and floating on rafts. I’m on a station in the center of a big horseshoe bend in the rover30 miles downstream from Kerrville. No reporters, no kooky-loos, just some grim face fire and Leo team including two dog teams. Fire ants, snakes, heat, humidity all conspire but nobody is quitting. Helicopters flying low and slow. 3 LEO teams and a dog team have inserted at my location alone. 1,000 searchers are in the next town north.
Supplies are coming in. HEB is doing a great job and several restaurants are feeding crews. This is so different from the way North Carolina was handled.
Typical of the press, they are trying to pin blame on whomever it sticks. Note that there is very little or poor cell service. While many alerts were published nobody was awakened by alarms or alerts in the upper reaches of the disaster.
Secondly the city of Kerrville does not extend to Ingram or Hunt. Giving grief to city managers and systems is inappropriate.
Note also: I haven’t seen a single antifa, or lgbtqxyz helping here. Not a single blue hair.
Speaking of doing inappropriate things:

Why does every single incident have to be made political on both sides? It’s fucking retarded, way to make it about some bullshit. There’s families with dead children, but let’s throw some jabs at liberals because that’s what’s important to end with apparently
 
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Today 7 of our members are providing comms support for teams searching for scattered cloud, hot and high humidity. These young folks are working unremittingly. They are walking the river and floating on rafts. I’m on a station in the center of a big horseshoe bend in the rover30 miles downstream from Kerrville. No reporters, no kooky-loos, just some grim face fire and Leo team including two dog teams. Fire ants, snakes, heat, humidity all conspire but nobody is quitting. Helicopters flying low and slow. 3 LEO teams and a dog team have inserted at my location alone. 1,000 searchers are in the next town north.
Supplies are coming in. HEB is doing a great job and several restaurants are feeding crews. This is so different from the way North Carolina was handled.
Typical of the press, they are trying to pin blame on whomever it sticks. Note that there is very little or poor cell service. While many alerts were published nobody was awakened by alarms or alerts in the upper reaches of the disaster.
Secondly the city of Kerrville does not extend to Ingram or Hunt. Giving grief to city managers and systems is inappropriate.
Note also: I haven’t seen a single antifa, or lgbtqxyz helping here. Not a single blue hair.
North Carolina was a fubar but in its defense it was really rugged mountain terrain with few roads to begin with, once they were out access was near impossible. In the end it was the locals who got it going, not FEMA. Y'all have all the resources of Austin, San Antonio to help. Those mountain vallets are remote.

Good luck with your recovery.
 
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North Carolina was a fubar but in its defense it was really rugged mountain terrain with few roads to begin with, once they were out access was near impossible. In the end it was the locals who got it going, not FEMA. Y'all have all the resources of Austin, San Antonio to help. Those mountain vallets are remote.

Good luck with your recovery.
Agree completely. The State and Fed response was poorly handled in NC. Here, the locals, including local gov, turned-to immediately. State was here in force same day, and army helicopters from Ft Sam, arrived within hours, and haven’t left. Chinooks are running supplies, and lots of NG, are here. Entire teams of parks personnel, and LEO’s are working some of the most isolated, and deepest parts of the river canyons. Local cadaver dog teams, fire dept boat crews, common citizens. Full, coordinated response from the entire community
 

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North Carolina was a fubar but in its defense it was really rugged mountain terrain with few roads to begin with, once they were out access was near impossible. In the end it was the locals who got it going, not FEMA. Y'all have all the resources of Austin, San Antonio to help. Those mountain vallets are remote.

Good luck with your recovery.

The State and Fed response was poorly handled in NC.
I recall sheriff threatening helicopter of arrest if they continued rescuing people. State personnel seizing donated goods from organizations saying they would control distribution. Threats against Amish (real) for building shelters. FEMA internal orders to not help MAGAs. $700 in "aid" payments from FEMA. I'm sure I missed a few. It wasn't "poor" execution, it was an outright attack.
 
Just saw the presser by Abbott - 161 still missing!

I still think cloud seeding played a role: how do they "shut it off"? Just like they couldn't shut it off Dubai. That was a big "oops". So Augustus said he was there on July 2...but it wasn't raining then - so there is some delay; if he did his deeds @ 11pm, and the deluge happened around 3AM July 4, that puts it at 26 hrs. Anybody know the latency period of cloud seeding?
 
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Nope, got to be a conspiracy theory. The dry/packed/rocky/sloping ground getting almost an average years rain fall for the area in hours do to a stationary storm being fed moisture from remnants of a tropical storm that just so happened to be moving that direction definitely has nothing to do with it.

I’ve seen people saying it was caused by a dam being opened 2 hours away DOWN STREAM.

It’s pretty much the same situation as western NC, way higher than normal rainfall in an area do to already having weather and larger tropical systems adding to it, it’s funneled to narrow valleys(river bed) where people decided it was a good idea to build in the worst spot in for these situations, and It’s not the first time there’s been flooding in either area. The Guadalupe floods about once a decade like clockwork

Fed.

Seriously, I understand topography, I understand geology/ground composition - I live here-ish too. I remember flash floods taking vehicles for a swim. But I cannot believe that weather modification and/or cloud seeding didn't play a role here, Milton/Helene, even Tanzania. I'm not even saying this (TX) was intentional - maybe an oopsy. Well I guess MTG will have to get to the bottom of this.
 
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Google (fwiw) says 0-30 minutes.
And the noise in precipitation records is so high that I can take years to see if the seeding program is having any more effect than just leaving stuff alone.

There is definitely good that can come from cloudseeding...but what did we first use weather modification for? War. I think every company should be forced to show what components/amounts, dates and areas they "treated" along with "their" results and the actual historical results. Have an independent team - or several - analyze. It may take a long time to figure out what a "safe" amount of silver iodide is, the long term effects etc. but we already know that the aluminum, barium & strontium chuff the WMs used are not good for animals and people. That CEO is making millions every single day somewhere without having to answer to anyone...plausible deniability.
 
Fed.

Seriously, I understand topography, I understand geology/ground composition - I live here-ish too. I remember flash floods taking vehicles for a swim. But I cannot believe that weather modification and/or cloud seeding didn't play a role here, Milton/Helene, even Tanzania. I'm not even saying this was (TX) was intentional - maybe an oopsy. Well I guess MTG will have to get to the bottom of this.
Weather modification doesn’t work how you imagine it does
 
I can hear the lawyers schemeing now..."Who can we sue?":mad:

The camp will get it first, failure to notify of impending danger.

Then anyone else they can think of.

Well the owner died trying to save the girls so they would be suing a widow for a shell of a summer camp on land worth very little now that it is in a flood plane.

While the lawyers might be willing to I’d imagine it is a pretty hard sell to get a parent to go along with it. You wouldn’t gain much money and you would condemn an already beat down widow to a life of poverty.
 
Weather modification doesn’t work how you imagine it does
The CEO doesn't even know how it works so how should anyone of us? That's my point. You know weather modification is supposed to be illegal in eleven states except for cloud seeding which is only illegal in Tennessee?

Do you really think if they were responsible they would say "yes, we caused all these deaths and destruction?" No, I'm sure cloudseeding and weather modification is "safe and effective". (Sarcasm font). Remember this? There were also deaths but UAE was tight -lipped. Forward to 1:20:
"No, definitely not cloudseeding, it's CLIMATE CHANGE". Now pay your carbon tax and buy an EV, and while you are at it get your booster!!
 
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Well the owner died trying to save the girls so they would be suing a widow for a shell of a summer camp on land worth very little now that it is in a flood plane.

While the lawyers might be willing to I’d imagine it is a pretty hard sell to get a parent to go along with it. You wouldn’t gain much money and you would condemn an already beat down widow to a life of poverty.
But I bet they have liability insurance…
 
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Liability for 27-35 girls from wealthy families + PTSD for 700 more? I'm sure there is an "act of God" clause in the policy.
It begs the question of if you are in a know flood area, (they have had high water before I understand.) with 700+ campers, why would you not have your own warning system or somebody monitoring the warnings. I know, hind sight is 20/20, but I bet there will be law suits. Meanwhile I have to go call my lawyer!🙄 - unrelated to this…
 
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The CEO doesn't even know how it works so how should anyone of us? That's my point. You know weather modification is supposed to be illegal in eleven states except for cloud seeding which is only illegal in Tennessee?

Do you really think if they were responsible they would say "yes, we caused all these deaths and destruction?" No, I'm sure cloudseeding and weather modification is "safe and effective". (Sarcasm font). Remember this? There were also deaths but UAE was tight -lipped. Forward to 1:20:
"No, definitely not cloudseeding, it's CLIMATE CHANGE". Now pay your carbon tax and buy an EV, and while you are at it get your booster!!

Yeah, they have no idea how it works that’s why they know exactly how to do it🙄 they’ve only been playing with it since 1946-1947. It’s not some big secret you can read about exactly how it works and have been able to go decades. It’s not some crazy powerful thing it’s just a nudge, the UAE shit could only happen if there was enough moisture in the air naturally it doesn’t make more moisture in the air. That was only about 10” of rain in the desert, which usually flash flood during heavy rains. Even parts of UAE average 50-60% humidity and can go as high as 90%. They also have admitted there were deaths.

The hill country floods once a decade pretty much, and flash floods aren’t out of the ordinary
 
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Yeah, they have no idea how it works that’s why they know exactly how to do it🙄 they’ve only been playing with it since 1946-1947. It’s not some big secret you can read about exactly how it works and have been able to go decades. It’s not some crazy powerful thing it’s just a nudge, the UAE shit could only happen if there was enough moisture in the air naturally it doesn’t make more moisture in the air. That was only about 10” of rain in the desert, which usually flash flood during heavy rains. Even parts of UAE average 50-60% humidity and can go as high as 90%. They also have admitted there were deaths.

The hill country floods once a decade pretty much, and flash floods aren’t out of the ordinary
Plausible deniability. Perfect.
 
Every single time.......
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That was a viscous troll post, the name on the account belongs to one woman, the picture of the account belongs to another woman. It was posted through @rad_reflections
There are several articles detailing it. Here is one. Apparently, Musk's AI bot has been going on an anti-semite tirade as well.
 
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