Flooding in TX Hill Country/Kerrville

Here's a 2-minute video of a fishing trip gone bad on the Pecos.
Flooding like this is not uncommon.


I used to love to swim in the Pecos. Great spot kind of under thehigh bridge right where it entered the Rio Grande on rte 90. The last time I stopped it had backed up bad with silt.
 
tinfoil hat time or....?


Everything’s a fucking conspiracy that’s how they make the real stuff seem like bullshit. I can’t remember the last storm people claimed was naturally occurring, it’s always some bullshit. Conspiracy theories aren’t even fun anymore.
 
Everything’s a fucking conspiracy that’s how they make the real stuff seem like bullshit. I can’t remember the last storm people claimed was naturally occurring, it’s always some bullshit. Conspiracy theories aren’t even fun anymore.
yeah, i used to be skeptical of anything until...
the government literally got caught framing trump
they had to admit they were literally arming and training terrorists in syria...
turns out jfk was shot in the head 3 times...
 
tinfoil hat time or....?


Storms do all kinds of things. Look at the path of Camille, which made landfall in La. then traveled inland for 1000+ miles and washed a large part of Nelson County Virginia away.

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Hurricane Camille, one of the world's worst storms, pummeled ...



Hurricane Camille was a catastrophic Category 5 hurricane that struck the U.S. Gulf Coast on August 17, 1969, causing widespread devastation and claiming many lives. It is one of only four Category 5 hurricanes to make landfall in the United States. The storm's intense winds, storm surge, and flooding resulted in significant damage and loss of life, both along the coast and inland.
 
correct. i am just saying i don't expect them to tell us shit, especially when it fucks people up...like the clotshots.

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They were told a week in advance it could get bad, that whole part of Texas from Dallas to San Antonio is known for flash flooding, so the conspiracy shit doesn’t really hold water.

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But of course reading a couple links makes you the authority
 
They were told a week in advance it could get bad, that whole part of Texas from Dallas to San Antonio is known for flash flooding, so the conspiracy shit doesn’t really hold water.

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But of course reading a couple links makes you the authority
i believe what they are saying is they can (for example) create that low pressure area that drew the moist air from the south and kept it there.
i realize that the area has experienced several significant floods in the past. frustrating to see the media interviewing "long time" residents that say on air that they have "never seen anything like it".
 
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I recall sheriff threatening helicopter of arrest if they continued rescuing people. State personnel seizing donated goods from organizations saying they would control distribution. Threats against Amish (real) for building shelters. FEMA internal orders to not help MAGAs. $700 in "aid" payments from FEMA. I'm sure I missed a few. It wasn't "poor" execution, it was an outright attack.
That wasn’t a Sheriff. That was an assistant Firechief of a VFD. A patrolman was standing g next to him, but the assistant fire chief was doing all the threatening. Assnt FireChief, Chris Melton.
 
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i believe what they are saying is they can (for example) create that low pressure area that drew the moist air from the south and kept it there.
i realize that the area has experienced several significant floods in the past. frustrating to see the media interviewing "long time" residents that say on air that they have "never seen anything like it".
Cloud seeding doesn’t create low pressure systems. People are also fucking stupid, so…?
 
Just saw the presser by Abbott - 161 still missing!

I still think cloud seeding played a role: how do they "shut it off"? Just like they couldn't shut it off Dubai. That was a big "oops". So Augustus said he was there on July 2...but it wasn't raining then - so there is some delay; if he did his deeds @ 11pm, and the deluge happened around 3AM July 4, that puts it at 26 hrs. Anybody know the latency period of cloud seeding?
That’s what I was trying to say. Just like in Dubai. They made a mistake and underestimated it.
Weather as a weapon perhaps 🤔
 
They were told a week in advance it could get bad,

To be fair the weather mongers are mostly alarmist, sensationalist attention whores who repeatedly deliver empty warnings.

Plus, as you point out, people are stupid and should at least do some due diligence.

If I packed up for every hurricane they warned me about I'd still be unpacking.
 
Just saw the presser by Abbott - 161 still missing!

I still think cloud seeding played a role: how do they "shut it off"? Just like they couldn't shut it off Dubai. That was a big "oops". So Augustus said he was there on July 2...but it wasn't raining then - so there is some delay; if he did his deeds @ 11pm, and the deluge happened around 3AM July 4, that puts it at 26 hrs. Anybody know the latency period of cloud seeding?
Quick google search says immediately to 30 minutes, so there goes that theory
 
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To be fair the weather mongers are mostly alarmist, sensationalist attention whores who repeatedly deliver empty warnings.

Plus, as you point out, people are stupid and should at least do some due diligence.

If I packed up for every hurricane they warned me about I'd still be unpacking.
Let’s also ignore the fact they see lesser flooding there regularly, they were in the worst drought anywhere in the country, what was left of a tropical storm headed that direction, and everyone was sleeping because the shit got bad at 4-5 in the morning. Speaking of alarmists, I just read about people ignoring alerts because they are constantly sent them about non-emergencies. I got woke up by a Tornado Warning (with tornadoes on the ground I learned later)and went back to sleep because I was constantly getting bs stuff.

Nope, old man novel shits probably what happened…lol
 
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tinfoil hat time or....?


Kind of fitting once you look back and realize the increasing accuracy of predicted hurricane tracks over the last 10-15 years.

Did weather forecasting tools get better? Or is it the ability to make storms track a certain way get better?

I don't think they have the ability to drum up a storm from raw scratch just yet, but they sure can intensify and steer one now.
 
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Kind of fitting once you look back and realize the increasing accuracy of predicted hurricane tracks over the last 10-15 years.

Did weather forecasting tools get better? Or is it the ability to make storms track a certain way get better?

I don't think they have the ability to drum up a storm from raw scratch just yet, but they sure can intensify and steer one now.
It’s do to computer models and more/better data
 
The only conspiracy theory I know that might hold water is the reason behind why Texas will not float out into the Gulf of America.

It is because Oklahoma sucks.

Sorry @Maggot . I went to UT at Arlington, making me a longhorn by extension and we have to give hell to the Sooners.
No offense taken. Sooners know that everything below the Red River is really just 'South Oklahoma'.:p:cool:
 
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I'm really sick of the blame games going on in the lame-stream media about this tragedy and the conspiracy theories. Here in Central Texas, guess what, it often rains like a cow pissing on a flat rock and because there's not a very deep soil layer (and what there is mostly is comprised of Texas gumbo clay) so the rain doesn't soak in.
 
Storms do all kinds of things. Look at the path of Camille, which made landfall in La. then traveled inland for 1000+ miles and washed a large part of Nelson County Virginia away.

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Hurricane Camille was a catastrophic Category 5 hurricane that struck the U.S. Gulf Coast on August 17, 1969, causing widespread devastation and claiming many lives. It is one of only four Category 5 hurricanes to make landfall in the United States. The storm's intense winds, storm surge, and flooding resulted in significant damage and loss of life, both along the coast and inland.
That’s a pretty popular path for hurricanes. Just a tighter turn
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TEXAS FLOODS: In a stunning announcement Austin Fire Chief, Joel G. Baker, is accused by his own firefighters of blocking the deployment of rescue teams to the catastrophic flood zone in central Texas.
According to reports the state of Texas requested help but Chief Baker allegedly said no because of an $800,000 dispute with the state government despite Austin having the best water rescue team in the state.
The union says they specifically trained for Hill County… for this very moment…
Below is a statement released by the Austin Firefighters Association.
“The Austin Firefighters are outraged by Fire Chief Joel G. Baker’s decision to deny the deployment of our highly trained swift water rescue teams to Kerrville until July 4th, despite the State of Texas calling for assistance on July 2nd. Only 3 AFD rescue swimmers were sent—far too late to save lives.
Our Special Operations teams are some of the best in Texas, but because of Chief Baker’s refusal to deploy them, lives were likely lost. His decision, based on a misguided attempt to save money, is unforgivable. The department is reimbursed for deployments, but Baker failed to understand that.
Starting Tuesday, we’re launching a vote of no confidence in Chief Baker, and we’re holding him—and anyone else responsible—accountable.
We’ve held off speaking out while victims were still being recovered, but it’s time for the community to know the truth.
We hope you stand with us in holding Chief Baker accountable.“


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TEXAS FLOODS: In a stunning announcement Austin Fire Chief, Joel G. Baker, is accused by his own firefighters of blocking the deployment of rescue teams to the catastrophic flood zone in central Texas.
According to reports the state of Texas requested help but Chief Baker allegedly said no because of an $800,000 dispute with the state government despite Austin having the best water rescue team in the state.
The union says they specifically trained for Hill County… for this very moment…
Below is a statement released by the Austin Firefighters Association.
“The Austin Firefighters are outraged by Fire Chief Joel G. Baker’s decision to deny the deployment of our highly trained swift water rescue teams to Kerrville until July 4th, despite the State of Texas calling for assistance on July 2nd. Only 3 AFD rescue swimmers were sent—far too late to save lives.
Our Special Operations teams are some of the best in Texas, but because of Chief Baker’s refusal to deploy them, lives were likely lost. His decision, based on a misguided attempt to save money, is unforgivable. The department is reimbursed for deployments, but Baker failed to understand that.
Starting Tuesday, we’re launching a vote of no confidence in Chief Baker, and we’re holding him—and anyone else responsible—accountable.
We’ve held off speaking out while victims were still being recovered, but it’s time for the community to know the truth.
We hope you stand with us in holding Chief Baker accountable.“


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Just when you start thinking there is hope for humanity...
 
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TEXAS FLOODS: In a stunning announcement Austin Fire Chief, Joel G. Baker, is accused by his own firefighters of blocking the deployment of rescue teams to the catastrophic flood zone in central Texas.
According to reports the state of Texas requested help but Chief Baker allegedly said no because of an $800,000 dispute with the state government despite Austin having the best water rescue team in the state.
The union says they specifically trained for Hill County… for this very moment…
Below is a statement released by the Austin Firefighters Association.
“The Austin Firefighters are outraged by Fire Chief Joel G. Baker’s decision to deny the deployment of our highly trained swift water rescue teams to Kerrville until July 4th, despite the State of Texas calling for assistance on July 2nd. Only 3 AFD rescue swimmers were sent—far too late to save lives.
Our Special Operations teams are some of the best in Texas, but because of Chief Baker’s refusal to deploy them, lives were likely lost. His decision, based on a misguided attempt to save money, is unforgivable. The department is reimbursed for deployments, but Baker failed to understand that.
Starting Tuesday, we’re launching a vote of no confidence in Chief Baker, and we’re holding him—and anyone else responsible—accountable.
We’ve held off speaking out while victims were still being recovered, but it’s time for the community to know the truth.
We hope you stand with us in holding Chief Baker accountable.“


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Seen video of him using the same inclusive language as the asst fire chief in LA. Wants to broaden the DEI in the department.
 
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TEXAS FLOODS: In a stunning announcement Austin Fire Chief, Joel G. Baker, is accused by his own firefighters of blocking the deployment of rescue teams to the catastrophic flood zone in central Texas.
According to reports the state of Texas requested help but Chief Baker allegedly said no because of an $800,000 dispute with the state government despite Austin having the best water rescue team in the state.
The union says they specifically trained for Hill County… for this very moment…
Below is a statement released by the Austin Firefighters Association.
“The Austin Firefighters are outraged by Fire Chief Joel G. Baker’s decision to deny the deployment of our highly trained swift water rescue teams to Kerrville until July 4th, despite the State of Texas calling for assistance on July 2nd. Only 3 AFD rescue swimmers were sent—far too late to save lives.
Our Special Operations teams are some of the best in Texas, but because of Chief Baker’s refusal to deploy them, lives were likely lost. His decision, based on a misguided attempt to save money, is unforgivable. The department is reimbursed for deployments, but Baker failed to understand that.
Starting Tuesday, we’re launching a vote of no confidence in Chief Baker, and we’re holding him—and anyone else responsible—accountable.
We’ve held off speaking out while victims were still being recovered, but it’s time for the community to know the truth.
We hope you stand with us in holding Chief Baker accountable.“


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That’s fucked up, but as soon as homes/cars/rvs were swept away in that it was too late. You can’t swim/boat in thick layers of debris. Still fuck that guy
 
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Take the river
That's already been done. The Red River is the Oklahoma border. If you step into the river from the Texas side, you are now in Oklahoma. The only exception is Lake Texoma. Most people that fish from a boat on the lake get the special Texoma license that allows you to fish from any part of the lake. I have fished in the Hagerman National Wildlife Refuge.
 
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That's already been done. The Red River is the Oklahoma border. If you step into the river from the Texas side, you are now in Oklahoma. The only exception is Lake Texoma. Most people that fish from a boat on the lake get the special Texoma license that allows you to fish from any part of the lake. I have fished in the Hagerman National Wildlife Refuge.
That’s why I said “take the river”
 
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