Covid vaccines ‘saved far fewer lives than first thought’
New study suggests true figure ‘substantially more conservative’ than WHO’s 14.4 million global estimate
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Covid Vax BS
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Or they could say the Vax killed millions, like it actually did, but then people might hang them. And that gets in the way of enjoying all those ill gotten pharma gains.
Killed millions and permanently wounded millions as well.
Fortunately, it mostly affected the stupid and weak-minded.
Unfortunately, it did not affect “only” the stupid and weak-minded.
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Unfortunately, it did not affect “only” the stupid and weak-minded.
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Look into mRNA Vaccine Shedding. The weak minded fucked us all. At this point almost everyone is likely seeing some side effects from those who got the jab.
Many are refusing to beleive this reality. We all have skin in this game beyond freinds and family killed and injured. The shot was the pandemic. I literally watched people get sick, test positive and get quarneteened within a week of getting a jab over and over and over again. Same kind of person who's kid is always sick, and thyre like, thank God we get them flu shots.
I got the first two shots then no more as I learned more about them and covid
I got them because my wife RIP was starting her chemo treatments and she asked me to get them
I got sick once in the last four years and it only lasted a day or two
I've never got covid knock on wood and haven't had the flu since 1977 when I opened the window and in flew enza
No side affects from the shots I got
Must be I'm a dumb frog and the vaccine just couldn't understand why everything was backwards and killed its self
I got them because my wife RIP was starting her chemo treatments and she asked me to get them
I got sick once in the last four years and it only lasted a day or two
I've never got covid knock on wood and haven't had the flu since 1977 when I opened the window and in flew enza
No side affects from the shots I got
Must be I'm a dumb frog and the vaccine just couldn't understand why everything was backwards and killed its self
Here's an odd little food for thought. I am somewhat limited in my knowledge of vaccines, so please take this with a grain of salt...
Currently (and always) there are/were zero FDA or USDA approved mRNA vaccines for use in cattle or feeder animals. I think there is only one RNA approved for swine flu in pigs. I'd have to research this more before stating with 100% confidence, but let's say that I'm 99% right now... I mean I buy this stuff constantly for local producers.
^ That little factoid was one of my reasons for avoiding the jab. That and my studying on the length of development and efficacy of influenza vaccines... not to mention that you're trying to hit a moving target.
Currently (and always) there are/were zero FDA or USDA approved mRNA vaccines for use in cattle or feeder animals. I think there is only one RNA approved for swine flu in pigs. I'd have to research this more before stating with 100% confidence, but let's say that I'm 99% right now... I mean I buy this stuff constantly for local producers.
^ That little factoid was one of my reasons for avoiding the jab. That and my studying on the length of development and efficacy of influenza vaccines... not to mention that you're trying to hit a moving target.
Good news is the Johnson and Johnson vax was not a mRNA vaccine so hopefully people did their research before selecting what type of vax they HAD to get and got the J&J one…..one and done traditional type
Yeah, the big picture bad news is some of us could avoid the jab, but avoiding the Covid as not a choice.
Having had it several times I think that is fucking with my body forever. Would be nice to hold those that let it loose accountable. Very accountable.
Having had it several times I think that is fucking with my body forever. Would be nice to hold those that let it loose accountable. Very accountable.
Could you explain this shedding? I looked into it and was only able to get info on virus shedding, i.e. vax containing weak virus causes your body to attack it but sometimes it replicates in a weaker form and you get a little sick and spread it. mRNA vaccines don’t introduce a virus into your system so how can you shed anything? And if you do shed something, what exactly are you shedding?
Weird I have no trouble bringing up lots of stuff on the covid vaccines and spike protein shedding. As per the usual though most of it isn't as easy to find as it should be.
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Basically, the mRNA vac contains the genetic code of the spike protein of the virus, that when injected into your body, causes your body to produce the spike protein of the virus itself for a limited time (in theory) of a few days. So now the theory is that your immune system will respond to the spike protein and develop antibodies against it.
So, your own body is producing for a short time the pathogen that is trying to kill you. Kind of wild when you realize that.
Your body will also try to get rid of the spike protein through other means such as shedding through respiration, sweat, waste etc. In some women they had a constant menstrual discharge daily that lasted for months.
The other issue, in some folks the mRNA did not stay at the injection site, but migrated throughout the body, and 18 months after injection was still producing the spike protein.
So, your own body is producing for a short time the pathogen that is trying to kill you. Kind of wild when you realize that.
Your body will also try to get rid of the spike protein through other means such as shedding through respiration, sweat, waste etc. In some women they had a constant menstrual discharge daily that lasted for months.
The other issue, in some folks the mRNA did not stay at the injection site, but migrated throughout the body, and 18 months after injection was still producing the spike protein.
So the spike protein, being present in bodily fluids, is expelled through typical means. The issue I’m having is I don’t buy the spike protein floating through air from one person to another like a virus would. I can see how bodily fluids could transmit the spike protein.
Not really, but if there's info I actually want I am not afraid to spend some actual time looking for it. I am sure someone here has a lot of stuff saved since searching through 2k pages of protajohn would be a PIA. But spoke shedding and transmisable vaccines would be your jumping off points.
Considered unethical for use in humans and feed animals. Couldn’t even get approved for peer review in order to start a study. Barely got approved for pugs because they were a potential vector for avian flu’s: ducks, pigs and humans in the same water. Guess where. Think real hard.
Covid 19 is transmitted through the air (air born virus) by its genetic make up.
How much of the genetic makeup (beside the spike protein) is included in mRNA shot I really don't know.
I do know that the original group of people that volunteered for the first jab tests where told to stay away from others for a time (separate rooms) until the shedding was supposed to have subsided. They also recommended at the time if someone in the house hold was pregnant, it may be best if they did not participate in the testing.
But I don’t buy that stuff is transmitted through air. Aerosolized bodily fluids, yes. But not by riding oxygen or nitrogen.
According to the current information covid is not tranmssiable through surface contact. Only through the air.
of course, these numbers here are skewed, because the feds paid hospitals a cash bonus for reporting covid deaths.
the result was reporting gunshots, car accidents and cancer deaths as covid deaths...
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there are people that are still producing the spike proteins, years after getting the clotshots. they believe this is causing "long-covid".
I've been posting this all over since 2020, so why not again.
When will someone look into Bill and how long he knew about what was going to happen (never,obviously). I still don't believe it was just luck. RS walk down into the biggest gains that year. Bill wanted his money back and he got it.
I "lucked out" buying this POS for a PDUFA play in 2016 and held the bag into nearly the peak, so I was paying attention at the time. I've played around with small cap bios for a while now and have never seen another one come out and say that they're going to take a couple quarters to think about a way forward after a failure. Garbage company is garbage.
When will someone look into Bill and how long he knew about what was going to happen (never,obviously). I still don't believe it was just luck. RS walk down into the biggest gains that year. Bill wanted his money back and he got it.
I "lucked out" buying this POS for a PDUFA play in 2016 and held the bag into nearly the peak, so I was paying attention at the time. I've played around with small cap bios for a while now and have never seen another one come out and say that they're going to take a couple quarters to think about a way forward after a failure. Garbage company is garbage.
Someone else could probably sight the experiments. But there is pretty solid evidence for virus spreading through the "air" as you say. Some virus is contained in water particles. Some virus can be animated from a small dry peice of the virus. I don't know why it wouldn't. Bacteria and fungi float around in the air too.
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Cancer is off the charts. I’m not going into detail but numerous friends and some family are either fighting it or have already died from it.
Could be because the lockdown caused fewer people to get tested so maybe rates when "down" during the lockdown and what's being seen now is the catchup.
Without detail either observation could be true but there is data to show detected cancer dropped significantly during the lockdown.
listen to this weasel clotshot pusher...he knows he is guilty of pushing a poison that doesn't work.
kind of like how the media refuses to admit they pushed the russiagate hoax.
kind of like how the media refuses to admit they pushed the russiagate hoax.
Many of those with deeply wounded bodies and cognitive abilities are still blissfully unaware of how terribly they got fucked.
Did you see the James Okeef undercover video of the exec from JNJ? He said they knew the vax did not work.
It's on the omg YouTube channel
Instead of the sky falling, it was the covid BS. This is a good video to show to the kids about propaganda. For that matter, it has a good message for the adults. WWII era Walt Disney puts a spin on the old "Chicken Little" story.
Correct. And the people who are wringing their hands about this "shedding" have already been exposed to the virus (and thus the spike protein) many times through other means. It's a non-issue and unfortunately distracts from much more serious and legitimate criticism of the vax and its effects.
It's not technically the same as the mRNA vaccines but still had the same effect - to hijack your own cells and truck them into producing spike protein. (mRNA is by necessity a part of this process, but in this case it's not a component of the "payload" but rather a result of the body's reaction to another virus.)
What's fascinating is that the FDA yanked the J&J vaccine after a very small number of "adverse events" (a half-dozen or so) while allowing the others to injure millions.
Speaking of JNJ. Bloodclots. My wife's grandma died from blood clots within months of taking the JNJ. At 86 she was no spring chicken but wasn't having blood clot problems taking the shot. What actually doomed her was the hospital sending her home because, it's a pandemic right now. Hospital sent her home. The attending Dr said she should have not been sent home. It's really a lot like the holocaust. 100s of thousands of people committed crimes against humanity.
Like I said, page 5 explains what is shed and its not just spike proteins. Some really smart guys might even read the whole thing.
Could be there were really 0 cases of the flu in 2020.
100% ... this is exactly what I just said, there's a difference between actual cases and observed cases.
If nobody goes to get tested or treated for a year the number of observed or documented cases of anything drops. Then if all those people get tested or treated the following year all the undiagnosed cases get piled up.
That's kinda what I was getting at ... where's the hard data. Just looking at the number of confirmed cases is only one part of the data.
I've seen a claim that the jab supposedly saved as many as 14M lives globally ... GLOBALLY.
8+B people on the globe that's somewhere around 0.02% of the global population.
Another source says something like 5.5B people on the globe got at least one jab, somewhere around 0.25% of the global population.
Other than the global government freak our and right violations this shit ain't as big a deal as people want to make it.
It's all BS just like the thread title says.
I'm not sure if they're still "producing" spike proteins but "long covid" is supposedly spike proteins "persisting" in brain and skull and other tissue like cardiovascular for years. Some people's bodies have a better ability to break down the proteins than others.
There is a real impact from this shit that will last for years for some, not all, people but then there is all the crap people blame on it. Some lady who got the vaccine gets ovarian cancer and people are all like "Clot Shot did it!" ignoring the history of ovarian cancer in her family that killed her grandma before the clot shot ever existed.
Acknowledged. But then the rest of the paper (which was very interesting - thanks for posting it) referred to the shedding of spike protein, so I am assuming this is the primary mechanism of concern.
A study on the effects of nanolipid particles is still need needed IMO - regardless of the payload, I could see those having some toxicity.
I've seen data posted by MDs that seems to be strongly indicative of continued spike production post-vaccination.
One of the main issues with the "long Covid" hypothesis is that the vast majority of sufferers, vaccinated or not, were in poor metabolic condition prior to getting sick and so it's not really clear how much of their problem is related to an acute illness turned chronic and how much is just the fact that they've found yet another reason to treat their bodies poorly.
I was under the impression the covid jab caused your cells to produce a spike protein on the outside which mimics the spike protein found on the outside of the corona virus. Your body is producing only a spike similar to the one found on the outside of the virus, not the virus itself.
Even regular vaccines are not producing the pathogen, they are producing an antibody response to the pathogen.
Si.
Not disagreeing with that. Similar to the fact that some people have no business getting the flu shot because, for them, the flu shot can be more harmful than the flu itself. People with health complications will always suffer more from anything than people without health complications.
I completely agree with the people who are saying this shit was forced by the .gov onto people before anyone had any idea of possible long term side effects and everyone who played a role deserves prosecution.
I think a lot more people have "long covid" than are documented because a lot of people just exhibit no symptoms. So for them "long covid" is just the presence of the protein in their body for a long time, maybe forever ... carriers for lack of a better term.
I don't buy into the idea of any real danger of people "infecting" other people with spike proteins "shed" from their bodies because it's not the same as actual virus shedding. The protein is not the virus. People aren't incubators for the proteins like they are incubators for a virus.
Correct. The first problem is that this protection proved to be not particularly durable, the second that the spike protein gene mutated, and the third is that turning one's own body into a factory for a particularly toxic protein proved to be a bad idea because sometimes that protein ended up in places it shouldn't be and/or the factory just kept running.
Things got much worse when the dose and schedule was chosen in an attempt to stimulate a strong response in those most vulnerable (the elderly). Giving this same dose to teenagers was a criminal act.
