Get ready for the Cartels to step up their game,...
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I listened to some reporter interviewing one of them. That's exactly what they said. Summing up what the guy said, it's only four years, and we've got plenty of money, we're just going to wait it out.
There's probably close to that on our side of the fence in certain locale. I've worked with several in my time in construction along the gulf coast that were involved with cartels. We had a qc with my company that wasn't even shy about it. Supposedly there's a book written about the cartels operations within dow chemical in the Freeport Tx area but I can't remember what it was called.
Don't think that plan will work out for them, as their leadership down to boot level has been known for years upon years.
It's not just the Mexicans. It's our government and people too.
All good and fine for those "righteous folks" right up until you are traveling there and some airport baggage worker stuffs your unlocked (or easily unlocked with the TSA key) bag with drugs and then his buddy on the receiving end forgets to remove them and you get caught with them.
And yes that HAS happened and even after the governments proved it happened and arrested those responsible those backward vile 3rd world hell holes still didn't want to release or compensate those innocent victims.
Be careful what you wish for, it would be way too easy for someone to do that to you for any number of reasons.
Much like the Bahamas and their stuffing bullets in US tourists bag scam.
It’s really just us.
The Mexicans just supply the demand.
They aren’t exactly holding guns to our heads, threatening us to buy their goodies (typing this on my Chyneee - made tablet, sound familiar?).
In typical fashion, we are the faultless, guiltless victims with clean hands.
“Exceptionalism.”
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actually have seen reliable reports of cartel fighters carrying Javelin missiles. think they wouldn't use them? thank you mr Zelinsky.
this is partially correct. before trump, the republicans were not putting that much effort into fighting sex trafficking.
however, this trafficking wasn't openly allowed, encouraged and funded by the government until biden and mayorkas took control.
in trump's first term, he signed an executive order to target sex trafficking.
in week one of his term, biden rescinded that order.
It just occurred to me...
Which vile, backward 3rd - world hellhole were you referring to?
Singapore? Taiwan?
Or the latter two - Thailand? Indonesia?
"Bullet - planting" is a thing in the Philippines, from what I can gather - didn't realize the Bahamas was into this as well.
Pull up some of these stories, I'm interested.
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When was the last time you were in any of these territories?
Unless your characterization was for Indonesia alone (and they’re fast catching up), you are way, way off.
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I don't think that word means what they think it means....
Or maybe they just redefined it and we common folks didn't get the memo.
Some have commented that those in the administration are so far removed from the very concept of actual, physical conflict that they have no idea how they're whoring out the armed forces, and what it actually does to people.
As it is, we are a soft, well - fed, affluent population.
We revel in our hero complex but have lost any connection with what "true grit" means, something our opponents have in spades.
I'd say this exemplifies the "Ivory Tower" syndrome?
Honestly, I think the cartel is just going to lay low and slow down and just wait for a new admin to occupy the white house. Regardless, i'm sure there's going to be a lot of assets in country cultivating humint to locate cartel resources, players, leadership, ect, and the smart play (IMO) that would play better would be using drones to just start eliminating production facilities where possible, leadership on the move, but that will only work so long before they start to adapt. As much certainty as I have in our US forces to open a can of whoopass, I don't think that's the battlefield that we want to risk losses of those operators, and sending in the 101st, or 82nd, or (insert regular infantry units here) I believe is the worst of bad ideas.
Just my opinion on it, and it's not qualified at all. Drones just certainly seem like they're bound to be the future of warfare.
Just my opinion on it, and it's not qualified at all. Drones just certainly seem like they're bound to be the future of warfare.
Freedom includes the freedom to lay down hurt on druggies who cause mayhem, destruction of property and put tents up on your front lawn, while abusing legalized drugs.
Freedom includes not having to pay tax dollars to deal with these miscreants, abusing legalized drugs.
Yeah freedom to implant birdshot in their asses, sounds like a great idea.
Let freedom “rain”.
and then the Cartels were able to get information from the Federal Court hack that recently occurred.
"The worry, according to three judicial officials and investigators with knowledge of the hack, is that cartels could weaponize the stolen data to identify witnesses in cases the federal government has opened against them, or to gain knowledge of impending or ongoing criminal investigations, such as sealed wiretap orders and arrest and search warrants."
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"The worry, according to three judicial officials and investigators with knowledge of the hack, is that cartels could weaponize the stolen data to identify witnesses in cases the federal government has opened against them, or to gain knowledge of impending or ongoing criminal investigations, such as sealed wiretap orders and arrest and search warrants."
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Why is that supposed to be controversial? What government has ever invited foreign troops into their country, without getting some compensation via some partnership agreement?
Stop talking nonsense. Everyone knows that people would rather buy sketchy street drugs from hood rats than get clean pharmaceuticals from CVS. Why would you want to end the super fun game of Fentanyl roulette? /s
Our people don't understand coin warfare at all. Trust me, been down range, they do not get it. They make offensive jokes at the locals and such like idiots. Now killing the enemy, that we're amazing at.... getting worse and relying on tech to much IMO... but yeah suck big time at COIN warfare.
That's because they grow it there and ship it to prohibition states, and because the shops are charging the same price/more as the street dealers (who have all the costs of evading LEO). Having designed a few legal grow warehouses here in Florida, I can say it costs $11 ish dollars an ounce to grow (with 5yr capital amortization included, only $3/O after) , and they want $450 at the counter. Of course there's still profit potential for black market growers. If it was legal to grow your own weed, the street value of an ounce would be <$30. Prohibition always creates more problems/crime than it solves, just ask the bootleggers.They did that with weed in Colorado.
Black-market marijuana is big business, even in states where pot's legal
Foreign gangs are finding that black-market marijuana is profitable even in states that have legalized cannabis.www.nbcnews.com
Regarding the claim that Biden rescinded a Trump order regarding trafficking, we found only one executive order from Trump that specifically addressed child sex trafficking in the Federal Register.
On Jan. 31, 2020, Trump signed Executive Order 13903, which sought to strengthen the federal government’s response to child sex trafficking given the potential for “twenty-first century technology and the proliferation of the internet and mobile devices” to facilitate the crime. But he did not “open an office in the White House to form coalitions with law enforcement,” nor did Biden rescind this order, as the Instagram post claims.
As part of his policy, Trump announced “the Domestic Policy Council shall commit one employee position” — not an entire office — to fighting human trafficking in the U.S. “and to coordinate with personnel in other components of the Executive Office of the President.”
But Luis C.deBaca, former ambassador-at-large to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons from 2009 to 2014, told FactCheck.org in a phone interview that the position had already existed. “The Domestic Policy Council and the National Security Council already had folks who were dedicated to staffing the human trafficking issue,” C.deBaca said. (The Domestic Policy Council itself was created by a 1993 executive order issued by Clinton.)
Trump’s executive order also did not task the assigned Domestic Policy Council employee with “form[ing] coalitions with law enforcement,” as the posts suggest. (Trump did instruct some cabinet officers to partner with law enforcement and other stakeholders to “fund human trafficking and child exploitation prevention programs” and improve the government’s “capabilities to locate children who are missing.”)
Biden never rescinded this or any other executive order on human trafficking on his second day in office, according to records from the Federal Register and White House briefing room.
The misconception comes from the fact that, in establishing a new council to fight transnational criminal organizations, Biden revoked one section of a Trump-era executive order on human trafficking.
In December 2021, Biden established a United States Council on Transnational Organized Crime, or USCTOC, to “lead whole-of-government efforts” on international organized crime. In 2017, Trump had assigned the Threat Mitigation Working Group — which was established under Obama — the role of coordinating the federal government’s response to transnational criminal organizations.
To avoid redundancy, the executive order that created the USCTOC also removed those same responsibilities from the Threat Mitigation Working Group. To do so, Biden had to revoke the section of Trump’s executive order that initially granted that authority to the Threat Mitigation Working Group.
But this does not mean that Biden stopped the federal government’s efforts to end child sex trafficking, as the post claims.
Actually the last time we did that the big cartels fractured into tons of smaller ones (that's when the Mexican special operations units turned into the Zetas also) and both the amount of smuggling and the violence skyrocketed.
Not saying that you don't go after the leadership, but expecting taking them out will make it easier and better is not always the case.
I can tell you from personal experience in the "War Against Drugs" that while our military and federal forces operate on budgets, the cartels have more money to throw at the problem and their margins are so large they just don't care. They didn't have phased array radar, but their vehicles and coms were superior to ours. They would throw away a Scorpion off-shore racing boat like it was a Kleenex. They just didn't care if they spent ten million dollars to bring in fifty million dollars worth of drugs.
No, with the Chi Coms supplying them with the precursors for Fentanyl it's not even like you can target agriculture. Honestly, I think hardening that border and stepping up the Coasties LeDet operations is the way to go. Trying to stop it on their turf seems much more difficult to me, and it really didn't work last time. Maybe this time will be different...
they "lost" over 400k kids thy trafficked into the country since xiden so you tell me if they were helping or hurting.
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It's just more of the same "we'll fight them there, so we don't have to fight them here" nonsense the MIC always pushes. I agree that it would be infinity more effective to pile up STA/USAS on the border and Coasties in the water. But that would stop ALL of the smuggling, including the items the Pols and wealthy WANT to get into/out of the country. Can't have that.
A variation of classic “are you a Churchill or a Chamberlain” binary thinking.
Maybe it would be a good idea to stop believing everything you see on TT/FB/X? It used to be SOP to question everything someone posted on the internet, when did that stop being a thing?
"Republicans began making claims that more than 300,000 unaccompanied children had been "lost" after the Department of Homeland Security released a report in August which showed that Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, did not serve notices to appear in court to 291,000 children between fiscal year 2019 and May 2024.
Additionally, 32,000 unaccompanied children failed to show up for immigration court dates from fiscal year 2019 to 2023.
Notably, around half of this period occurred when Trump was president. The report did not specify the number of children who missed court appearances under each administration.
While the DHS report stated that children who do not attend their court hearings can be at a higher risk of being trafficked or exploited, it did not say that the total 323,000 children referenced are unaccounted for or missing.
The Trump transition team did not respond to a request for clarification on Trump's claims.
Experts point to ICE's "missing paperwork problem"
In response to the DHS report, ICE said delays in issuing court notices to some of 291,000 unaccompanied children may stem from some being eligible to apply for asylum or legal status. In some cases, that process might be allowed to play out before ICE sends them a court date to begin removal proceedings."This is not a 'missing kids' problem; it's a 'missing paperwork' problem," said Jonathan Beier, an associate director of research at the Acacia Center for Justice's Unaccompanied Children Program, which helps represent migrant children.
In the cases of the 32,000 minors who missed immigration court dates, experts on immigration law explained that these minors could miss court for numerous reasons, including that they did not receive their notice to appear because ICE did not have their correct address on file.
Sometimes there are communication failures between ICE and other government agencies — including the Department of Health and Human Services, which is entrusted with finding children living arrangements with a shelter or sponsor while they await legal proceedings.
"I think for the most part, many of these children have been placed with loving family members," said Raul Pinto, deputy legal director for transparency at the American Immigration Council.
What we know about claims that unaccompanied children face dangers
Trump also claimed in the interview that hundreds of thousands of children who crossed the border unaccompanied are "now slaves, sex slaves or dead." There is no evidence of anything like this scale of abuse.By law, after unaccompanied minors from foreign countries are detained at the border, they're quickly turned over to the care Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee Resettlement, which aims to place children in "the least restrictive setting that is in the best interests of the child."
The office attempts to release children to sponsors, which can include parents, relatives and guardians, and federal policy dictates that the government vet these sponsors via interviews or background checks.
Despite these safeguards, some migrant children have ended up in unsafe situations, though the exact number is not known.
It's also protocol for the refugee resettlement office to follow up with sponsors around 30 days after the child's release, but a percentage of these phone calls have gone unanswered during the Biden and Trump administrations.
Both Republicans and Democrats have previously cited these missed calls to make claims that unaccompanied children were lost by those administrations. However, unanswered calls do not necessarily equate to these children being missing or in danger, experts say.
"It does not mean that the child's in an unsafe place. It means someone didn't answer the phone," said Jennifer Podkul, chief of global policy and advocacy for Kids in Need of Defense, an organization providing legal representation for unaccompanied children."
Oh, I know the herd "rules". But following them would require me to care how my thoughts are interpreted/received by "X" group, and I don't. Probably has something to do with all the stories my paternal grandparents told me about living in 1930's Germany. I'm always suspicious of what the herd thinks is "best".
I appreciate you caring enough to warn me though. One of these days, as the noose tightens around my neck, I'll be thinking "I should have listened to Edsel"
Odd. On 07/17/25 he said he was going to release his report "next week". Been nearly 4 weeks, where is it? Until the arrests start, he's just another political bloviator.
all they do is talk.
that doesn't mean there aren't such outrageous numbers of victims, they just don't do shit about anything.
Wasn't long ago that they passed the war on opioids bill. I guess that they have burned through that money
be careful of giving the gov and it's managed DRs (AKA all of them) more control of your pain management. basically another scam in the making.
The bulk of the "System is a Scam" and was a few years before 1861. That POS elected in 1860 should have been post aborted before he was first elected to anything. This would be a different nation today if he had been,...
Completely retarded front to back. What kind of fuckwad retard government lets “unaccompanied minors”, with no identification, across their border in the first place! You are a fucking idiot to even think about trying to defend this obscene bullshit. Your mind is polluted by media nonsense and the “Acacia Center for Justice's Unaccompanied Children Program”. Ridiculous.
Think about the laws that prevent transporting a minor across STATE lines without the direct consent of their parents. This is common sense. Transporting children to other countries without the direct consent of their parents is the raving of a fucking insane person with ZERO common sense at all. How Orwellian is title of that far left cesspool of an organization? Those people are stealing our air.
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That didn't take long:
www.foxnews.com
Mexico to extradite 26 top cartel leaders to US in Trump administration deal
The Trump administration secures the extradition of 26 Mexican cartel figures, including a Los Cuinis leader and a suspect in 2008 U.S. deputy murder case.
www.foxnews.com
They found the 26 putas that didn’t pay their monthly bribes to the government; I mean monthly insurance payments to the government.That didn't take long:
Mexico to extradite 26 top cartel leaders to US in Trump administration deal
The Trump administration secures the extradition of 26 Mexican cartel figures, including a Los Cuinis leader and a suspect in 2008 U.S. deputy murder case.
