223 Wylde vs 223 Rem Match chamber?

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

Never had any problems with 50 gr vmax to 88 gr elds in the two 223 Wylde 1:7 rifles I've owned. A bit over 1/2 moa and accurate out past 1100 yards. Thinking about a new SA build and am trying to decide. I'm told the main difference is the amount of freebore; the 223 Wylde has 0.0621 and the 223 Rem Match has 0.090. Not sure if the 223 rem match would shoot 75 gr Hndy OTM well (which I have a fair supply of). Planning on a 24" bull with a 1:7 twist.
Thoughts?

 

[bpd459]

Greetings,
If you are shooting mag length ammo, you will not see any difference down range between these 2 chambers.
John

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

It's a short action, so mag length will be around 2.5". And I do a lot of single feeding, so not limited by mag length.

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

I'm leaning toward the 223 Rem Match. Anybody want to talk me out of it?

 

[bpd459]

When I shot the AR in highpower, with both service rifle and a spacegun, I used the Wylde chamber. Shot the 80gr SMK at 2.550" for 500/600yds. Worked perfectly.
I am using the .169" freebore ISSF chamber in my F class .223, but shooting nothing but the B85.5gr Hybrids.

 

[FCS]

Never had any problems with 50 gr vmax to 88 gr elds in the two 223 Wylde 1:7 rifles I've owned. A bit over 1/2 moa and accurate out past 1100 yards. Thinking about a new SA build and am trying to decide. I'm told the main difference is the amount of freebore; the 223 Wylde has 0.0621 and the 223 Rem Match has 0.090. Not sure if the 223 rem match would shoot 75 gr Hndy OTM well (which I have a fair supply of). Planning on a 24" bull with a 1:7 twist.
Thoughts?

Verify freebore present on reamer used to chamber barrel. There are many versions of "Wylde" out there, same with 223 Rem Match. Bolt gun I prefer a slightly tighter body then what Wylde calls out.
Get a print of reamer, know what dimensions are there for body dimensions, freebore, and lead angle.

0.090" freebore will shoot the 75 Hornady OTM bullet just fine, especially if you are loading the bullet and can set bullet where wanted / needed.

What magazine system are you going to use?

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

Rifle will see 95+% handloads. So I can tailor seating depth to what it likes. Rifle will have a MDT AICS 223 magazine. Although, I primarily feed single rounds.
Thanks for the information!

 

[RFutch]

I have a Criterion match chamber with a .090 freebore. Works great with the 80 SMKs.

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

I will have a Criterion 223 Rem match...after 20 short weeks of waiting.
I put the order in this morning!

 

[Nebulous]

I'm just over 6weeks into my wait with Criterion. I went with wylde but I'm building more of a lightweight duty rifle and wanted ammo flexibility. Eventually I plan to work up a load for some heavies but until the market levels out I'll just be happy to get out and test fire it.

 

[EODsniper]

I will have a Criterion 223 Rem match...after 20 short weeks of waiting.
I put the order in this morning!

How did that barrel work out for you?

 

[Jayhawkhuntclub]

Best barrel I've ever owned. I shoot almost exclusively 90 gr SMK and have had success with them out to 1400 yards.
Last year I shot a 0.33" group in a 200 yard bench rest shoot. My second best group would have also won 1st that day.
BTW, my twist is 1:7. I ordered a second one on January 3rd....still haven't received it from Northland SS. Can't imagine it will shoot as well as the first. But will see.

 

[King_beardsly]

Best barrel I've ever owned. I shoot almost exclusively 90 gr SMK and have had success with them out to 1400 yards.
Last year I shot a 0.33" group in a 200 yard bench rest shoot. My second best group would have also won 1st that day.
BTW, my twist is 1:7. I ordered a second one on January 3rd....still haven't received it from Northland SS. Can't imagine it will shoot as well as the first. But will see.

I’ve actually got two of those barrels, ones headed back to criterion for a little checkup and just screwed on the second one to break it in.

 

[EODsniper]

Best barrel I've ever owned. I shoot almost exclusively 90 gr SMK and have had success with them out to 1400 yards.
Last year I shot a 0.33" group in a 200 yard bench rest shoot. My second best group would have also won 1st that day.
BTW, my twist is 1:7. I ordered a second one on January 3rd....still haven't received it from Northland SS. Can't imagine it will shoot as well as the first. But will see.

Good to know, I finally got my rifle back all assembled. Im planning to shoot Berger 85.5 hybrids over xbr 8208. I have them loaded at max length for the mdt mag right now at 2.48” and shooting them tomorrow to test out. I shot some mk262 I had just to test it out and even those 77gr smk jumping a ton of distance still grouped amazing.

 

[LandenR6arc]

Good to know, I finally got my rifle back all assembled. Im planning to shoot Berger 85.5 hybrids over xbr 8208. I have them loaded at max length for the mdt mag right now at 2.48” and shooting them tomorrow to test out. I shot some mk262 I had just to test it out and even those 77gr smk jumping a ton of distance still grouped amazing. View attachment 8742849

I know it’s an older thread but what stock and action are you running looks sexy asf. I’m trying to build a precision 223 AI or 6mm arc.

 

[EODsniper]

I know it’s an older thread but what stock and action are you running looks sexy asf. I’m trying to build a precision 223 AI or 6mm arc.

I’m using a zermatt origin with a H&S pst007 stock inletted for m5 bottom metal,

 

[EODsniper]

I know it’s an older thread but what stock and action are you running looks sexy asf. I’m trying to build a precision 223 AI or 6mm arc.

My 6arc is also a zermatt action in a manners night stalker

 

[King_beardsly]

My 6arc is also a zermatt action in a manners night stalker

This makes me want a night stalker

 

[LandenR6arc]

I’m using a zermatt origin with a H&S pst007 stock inletted for m5 bottom metal,

Looking at the pictures I think I wanted an exact copy of your rifle without knowing it lol even down to the Steiner tx6i and the Allen engineering can.

 

[EODsniper]

Looking at the pictures I think I wanted an exact copy of your rifle without knowing it lol even down to the Steiner tx6i and the Allen engineering it’s de

 

[EODsniper]

It’s definitely a fun rifle and really built it because I had the AEM5 laying around. Just using 77gr factory ammo at 2743fps average to get some rounds through the barrel before I start hand loads it was hitting 10” plates out to 800 no problem. I may have been hitting the 900 too but with no spotter I couldn’t tell because you don’t hear it ding the steel.

 

[LandenR6arc]

It’s definitely a fun rifle and really built it because I had the AEM5 laying around. Just using 77gr factory ammo at 2743fps average to get some rounds through the barrel before I start hand loads it was hitting 10” plates out to 800 no problem. I may have been hitting the 900 too but with no spotter I couldn’t tell because you don’t hear it ding the steel.

Thats really the main reason I want to go with a 6arc it’s still an intermediate cartridge but has a little more energy and bigger splash down range so it’s easier to see hits. It will be mostly a long range toy but will do some whitetail and varmint hunting with it. I used a Howa mini in 6mm arc I owned previously and it was just to much fun not to build one. Shot some raccoons with the 80gr eldvt factory ammo and left softball sized exit holes in them from roughly 80 yards.