The SIG Sauer P320 drama continues
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He must be an idiot with after market parts in that pistol and the wrong holster and a light mounted because Sig said it’s impossible for the 320/M17 to go off unless one pulls the trigger OR Carrie’s a round in the chamber
Any striker fired handgun that keeps the striker cocked all the way back is going to be at the mercy of tolerances. Even Glock aftermarket triggers that do this have problems. Glock factory triggers keep the striker decocked off the primer so shit like this doesn’t happen. You can’t turn a striker fired gun into a hammered gun. People just need to accept it. Either deal with the long trigger pull or get a 1911. In 45 cal.
I will only carry a hammer-fired gun... but I do have some striker-fired toys for the range. I prefer SA/DA decocker handguns.
Who is an idiot? What aftermarket parts?
From the article:
The Blackhawk holster officers use with the P320 model was selected at the same time, the spokesperson said, adding that it was recommended by the vendor.
I agree that having a "dead" striker is the safest approach. However, we solved the same issue in bolt action rifles. Fully cocked striker when bolt is closed, inevitable tolerances between bolt and receiver and no problems (except with some Remington slop and of course SIG with the early versions of the Cross).
The difference I see between the bolt gun and the pistol is the bolt is contained within the receiver and its movement controlled while the pistol slide is allowed to flop around on top of the frame. It’s funny, internet people have always mocked whenever anyone brought up slide to frame fit until now.
Agree, and carry a SA/DA (P228) because I consider a heavier first shot pull to be an advantage in real life. Extreme stress like experienced in a life or death situation will degrade our fine motor skills and we do not experience this in weekend matches where we long for finer triggers. Yes, the clock raises your stress level but nowhere near to what goes on in your body in a real "oh shit" moment.
We can obviously not run matches while someone is threatening our life but fortunately there are other ways to assess the issues with ham fistedness (i.e. fine motor degradation) and "match" triggers. Just hang on your fingers from a ledge/bar for as long as you can and then draw for a Mozambique drill. Please try this first with a sim gun because the first shot WILL leave the barrel way earlier than you intended. You will get the same result after carrying something like a heavy paint can, kettlebell, etc. with your trigger hand.
The first shot will be a Charlie at best, hit the ground or your leg at worst. The only way you can make the first shot count is by leaving the finger off the trigger until you are on target and at that point you have no advantage over a DA trigger. We have tried this ad nauseam in our tactical arts group where we focus on placing few, effective shots on targets in unknown, chaotic scenarios versus hosing down a target rich environment after mentally gaming the process several times before the beeper goes off. Same conclusions from brutality matches. Triggers can be too "good". (I am not advocating for the other extreme either, like 'New York' triggers)
If you find yourself in a Dickens situation where your own life is not acutely threatened but you need to make an accurate first shot then quickly cock the hammer on a DA/SA gun.
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