Dark Matter is Information?

[lash]

Okay, I know that many of you have zero interests in advanced quantum physics, but a few of you might find this very interesting.

I am just posting the link as I know that many of you automatically skip anything more than two sentences long…

Information could be a fundamental part of the universe, and may explain dark energy and dark matter

For more than a century, physics has been built on two great theories. Einstein's general relativity explains gravity as the bending of space and time.

phys.org

 

[lash]

Calling @Blue Sky Country
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/members/130753/

 

[918v]

It’s like the general consciousness theory ala Clif High.

 

[lash]

It’s like the general consciousness theory ala Clif High.

What’s really interesting is that the theory checks out in many ways, including in quantum physics and quantum computers. It also works to explain the apparent contradictions between relativity and quantum mechanics.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Makes sense.
Time is a construct for us.
They have known this a while now.
THey have convenient programming to help us undersyand. The Matrix rhymes with the reality.
They never tell you the whole story, if they did, you would realize they are the bad guys.
LUcifer was the angel of music and light....and still has his gifts God gave him. Also....he is not in hell, the Bible clearly points this out in numerous places and timelines.

 

[918v]

What’s really interesting is that the theory checks out in many ways, including in quantum physics and quantum computers. It also works to explain the apparent contradictions between relativity and quantum mechanics.

I didn’t know you were a quantum physician. I’m going to respect you more from now on.

 

[lash]

I didn’t know you were a quantum physician. I’m going to respect you more from now on.

Hahaha! No, I’m just a lowly rocket surgeon. A man has to know his limitations.

I am not even close to knowing the math involved, but have always been an avid reader of science advances and yes, science fiction. Sci-fi, the real core stuff and not the rebranded westerns has always been a place where those smarter than me can air guesses and suppositions as facts that support the story.

More than a few excellent authors are/were physicists and have touched on the concept in the OP. Some very much so.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Science is the fiction.
The fiction/legend/myth is the real science.

 

[lash]

Science is just the Tower of Babel.

 

[Namekagon]

Science is the fiction.
The fiction/legend/myth is the real science.

If you think about it, infinity is an impossibility for us. The human race can only attempt to comprehend what infinity is. We struggle to deal with infinity in mathematics and physics but really can't. The best we can do is never-ending equations that melt our calculators. And yet the universe is so large, it appears to us to be infinite. Obviously, we don't know that for sure, (because by definition we never could know lol).

I think God placed us in this gigantic space as a sign of his existence. Why would He create billions of galaxies that can't even be seen with the naked eye if not for a purpose? Think of everything that the Hubble telescope can see, supernovas and nebulas etc. Spectacular wonders! If the reality of infinity is laid bare to us every night when we look at the stars, what's so hard about believing God exists? He practically placed a portrait of himself in the heavens, we just can't see enough of the picture to recognize Him.

 

[Redlion]

 

[Skeptic1]

We exist in the mind of God. It all makes sense once you realize this.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

I ran it by a physicist and was told, Its more in the interesting idea phase and not the proven fact stage.

Was directed to this video with in the subject, that touches on some aspects from the article.

 

[lash]

True that it’s an interesting idea and not proven fact. If you read the article, it is not presented as fact. It’s presented as theory that has been somewhat tested and could explain a number of things if proven out.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

If you think about it, infinity is an impossibility for us. The human race can only attempt to comprehend what infinity is. We struggle to deal with infinity in mathematics and physics but really can't. The best we can do is never-ending equations that melt our calculators. And yet the universe is so large, it appears to us to be infinite. Obviously, we don't know that for sure, (because by definition we never could know lol).

I think God placed us in this gigantic space as a sign of his existence. Why would He create billions of galaxies that can't even be seen with the naked eye if not for a purpose? Think of everything that the Hubble telescope can see, supernovas and nebulas etc. Spectacular wonders! If the reality of infinity is laid bare to us every night when we look at the stars, what's so hard about believing God exists? He practically placed a portrait of himself in the heavens, we just can't see enough of the picture to recognize Him.

An infinate universe, governed by laws we don't comprehend. We don't really even understand gravity, or really know what it "IS", no matter what Neil the Grass Tyson tells you.
Where did these laws come from?
They would have to originate from beyond this massive universe.
We do not comprehend our Creator, because he is outside Time AND space....yet inside all of it at once...simultaneous.
The ultimate brain twister.
But this too is written.
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Who hath measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, and meted out heaven with the span, and comprehended the dust of the earth in a measure, and weighed the mountains in scales, and the hills in a balance?
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Who hath directed the Spirit of the LORD, or being his counsellor hath taught him?
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With whom took he counsel, and who instructed him, and taught him in the path of judgment, and taught him knowledge, and shewed to him the way of understanding?
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Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
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And Lebanon is not sufficient to burn, nor the beasts thereof sufficient for a burnt offering.
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All nations before him are as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
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To whom then will ye liken God? or what likeness will ye compare unto him?
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The workman melteth a graven image, and the goldsmith spreadeth it over with gold, and casteth silver chains.
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He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved.
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Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
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It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
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That bringeth the princes to nothing; he maketh the judges of the earth as vanity.
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Yea, they shall not be planted; yea, they shall not be sown: yea, their stock shall not take root in the earth: and he shall also blow upon them, and they shall wither, and the whirlwind shall take them away as stubble.
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To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? saith the Holy One.
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Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.
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Why sayest thou, O Jacob, and speakest, O Israel, My way is hid from the LORD, and my judgment is passed over from my God?
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Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

 

[earthquake]

It from bit. John Wheeler talked about this years ago. His work seems to be proving correct. It blends well with the holographic principle of black holes and the universe. It’s all a giant simulation.

 

[The D]

Okay, I know that many of you have zero interests in advanced quantum physics, but a few of you might find this very interesting.

I am just posting the link as I know that many of you automatically skip anything more than two sentences long…

Information could be a fundamental part of the universe, and may explain dark energy and dark matter

For more than a century, physics has been built on two great theories. Einstein's general relativity explains gravity as the bending of space and time.

phys.org

Can you re-format this into a coupla memes and gifs?

 

[lash]

Can you re-format this into a coupla memes and gifs?

Probably, but if the intent was to capture a larger audience, they would have to involve naked wimmerns and water buffalo.

 

[softcock]

Okay, I know that many of you have zero interests in advanced quantum physics, but a few of you might find this very interesting.

I am just posting the link as I know that many of you automatically skip anything more than two sentences long…

Information could be a fundamental part of the universe, and may explain dark energy and dark matter

For more than a century, physics has been built on two great theories. Einstein's general relativity explains gravity as the bending of space and time.

phys.org

THIS ---> Dark Matter Energy information is just nothing more than Narrative Paradigm Theory to fill-in the huge void of unknown knowledge in the human experience, the universal human conditions need to connect itself in relative movent to a larger cosmic picture.
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[The D]

Probably, but if the intent was to capture a larger audience, they would have to involve naked wimmerns and water buffalo.

And?

 

[lash]

Dark Matter Energy information is just nothing more than Narrative Paradigm Theory to fill-in the huge void of unknown knowledge in the human experience, the universal human conditions need to connect itself in relative movent to a larger cosmic picture.
.

True, in that man (or the universal human condition) has always searched to find meaning out of existence. Thus we have myths, origin theories and religions that have sprouted from that desire.

 

[lash]

And?

I’m feeling lazy today…

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Can you re-format this into a coupla memes and gifs?

 

[JJMoody]

THIS ---> Dark Matter Energy information is just nothing more than Narrative Paradigm Theory to fill-in the huge void of unknown knowledge in the human experience, the universal human conditions need to connect itself in relative movent to a larger cosmic picture.
.

 

[softcock]

to the above Pic. posted ... That statement I posted is about as simplistic answer i can do to explain a invented complex over exaggerated topic like Dark Matter, Dark Energy with it's attempt linking it to... The Big Picture.

 

[Makinchips208]

In the beginning was the Word…
Math that.

 

[lash]

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Perfect!

 

[Milf Dots]

Is this still available?

 

[918v]

My limited take on the science industry is that scientists are a bunch of cunts who can’t handle being wrong. So they reject everything that doesn’t fit in their consensus BS. Something like this theory might help to fix things.

 

[lash]

Is this still available?

Some say that it never was.

 

[Bantam1]

They can never be wrong if it's always a theory.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

True that it’s an interesting idea and not proven fact. If you read the article, it is not presented as fact. It’s presented as theory that has been somewhat tested and could explain a number of things if proven out.

Yes I read it and was just sharing the opinion of one who some what understands these concepts, which very few humans can actually wrap their brains around.


Its funny how offended stupid people are by intelligence.

 

[lash]

They can never be wrong if it's always a theory.

True, but that’s a rabbit hole in itself. When does it become not a theory, but accepted scientific ‘fact’. And what then, when accepted scientific fact gets proven wrong without deniability?

 

[JJMoody]

to the above Pic. posted ... That statement I posted is about as simplistic answer i can do to explain a invented complex over exaggerated topic like Dark Matter, Dark Energy with it's attempt linking it to... The Big Picture.

Yeah, I see that. It’s just that I have a very limited amount of gifs saved to my phone and look for every opportunity I can to place them where it may garner a giggle. I’m usually not reading the article posted and do appreciate when complex matters can be condensed into meme format.

 

[918v]

True, but that’s a rabbit hole in itself. When does it become not a theory, but accepted scientific ‘fact’. And what then, when accepted scientific fact gets proven wrong without deniability?

When you shoot a half-inch 100 round group

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Okay, I know that many of you have zero interests in advanced quantum physics, but a few of you might find this very interesting.

I am just posting the link as I know that many of you automatically skip anything more than two sentences long…

Information could be a fundamental part of the universe, and may explain dark energy and dark matter

For more than a century, physics has been built on two great theories. Einstein's general relativity explains gravity as the bending of space and time.

phys.org

That is digging into some old arguments (and bets) between Stephen Hawking and is colleague/competitor Kip Thorne... That information is not lost in a black hole. And that information is never 'lost.'

Which seems to work on paper with some wild math that I can't begin to understand. But which doesn't seem to have any real-world proofs... then again, they said Black Holes didn't exist and that the Big Bang was not real.

Some of these 'announcements' I tend to think are 'press release ahead of science.' Or perhaps they are things that rise to the level of things like String Theory... which was all the rage for a while. (Brian Greene could not shut up about string theory... Sorry Brian... you were no Einstein... but thanks for playing!) Really, "String Theory" never reached the level of being an actual theory. It was really string religion. Because the math never quite worked out. And even if it did, there was no way strings could be observed using any method anyone could conceive. So the theory could not be proved.

So... the whole "information is mass is energy is matter" is definitely an interesting concept. But is also one of a whole ton of wild speculations out there. They don't rise to the level of theory yet. And my choice of the word 'speculation' is probably a bad one. Perhaps postulation. But is it really at that level in the scientific method yet?

"They" still don't know where the 'lost matter' in the Universe is. And that will determine whether the universe continues expanding or collapses. Or who knows? Some observations are indicating that the universe is 'accelerating' at its periphery. Which means something is pulling on it externally. Or perhaps our measurements don't have enough data/time for us to 'know' what the universe is doing, really.

But more theories, postulations and even wild guesses are good! The worst thing you can do in 'real' science is shut something completely down. It goes against the whole concept of scientific method. So bring on the ideas!

Oh and... I love this stuff! So very cool OP and neat thread!

Sirhr

 

[sirhrmechanic]

They can never be wrong if it's always a theory.

But to be a 'theory' it has to reach a certain benchmark... beyond a speculation or a postulation. Most of this stuff has not come near the 'theory' level yet.

That said, the whole 'Higgs-Boson' thing was a postulation that became a theory that was proved mathematically and then became an observed fact... and now is part of the 'mechanics' of how the universe is working. It took a couple of decades, IIRC, for the 'postulation' to get actually observed!

So it's all interesting to try and process!

Sirhr

 

[Herb Stoner]

If you think about it, infinity is an impossibility for us. The human race can only attempt to comprehend what infinity is. We struggle to deal with infinity in mathematics and physics but really can't. The best we can do is never-ending equations that melt our calculators. And yet the universe is so large, it appears to us to be infinite. Obviously, we don't know that for sure, (because by definition we never could know lol).

I think God placed us in this gigantic space as a sign of his existence. Why would He create billions of galaxies that can't even be seen with the naked eye if not for a purpose? Think of everything that the Hubble telescope can see, supernovas and nebulas etc. Spectacular wonders! If the reality of infinity is laid bare to us every night when we look at the stars, what's so hard about believing God exists? He practically placed a portrait of himself in the heavens, we just can't see enough of the picture to recognize Him.

There is simply so much we don't know. Humans have created gods for millennia in a quest to explain or comprehend the mysteries of the universe and the majority of early gods were tied to natural phenomena (the sun, thunder, fire, etc.). To those that have spent a great deal of time in the remote outdoors seeing stars by the millions, meteor showers, lightning storms in the Alps, northern lights and so on, its no wonder they had to find an explanation. Some mysteries surrounding weather and near space are better understood with modern knowledge, tools and technology but there is much we don't know.

 

[Aftermath]

Okay, I know that many of you have zero interests in advanced quantum physics, but a few of you might find this very interesting.

I am just posting the link as I know that many of you automatically skip anything more than two sentences long…

Information could be a fundamental part of the universe, and may explain dark energy and dark matter

For more than a century, physics has been built on two great theories. Einstein's general relativity explains gravity as the bending of space and time.

phys.org

TLDR..Lash is a member of MENSA

 

[Aftermath]

In the beginning was the Word…
Math that.

Word

 

[Rthur]

Better answer the easier questions first...
Seems the big bang needs more than a bit of rethink.

R

 

[lash]

TLDR..Lash is a member of MENSA

MENSA - Male Engineers Needing Social Acceptance

 

[P-Squared]

Okay, I know that many of you have zero interests in advanced quantum physics, but a few of you might find this very interesting.

I am just posting the link as I know that many of you automatically skip anything more than two sentences long…

Information could be a fundamental part of the universe, and may explain dark energy and dark matter

For more than a century, physics has been built on two great theories. Einstein's general relativity explains gravity as the bending of space and time.

phys.org

Thanks. Most times I skip posts longer than two sentences here because most times it's like a dissertation in a special ed class. After everything is said and done, it's still a special ed class.

But to be fair, a lot of the folks here are better SMEs on subjects than I am.

 

[GreenGO Juan]

Really good one on understanding a Black hole.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

Can you re-format this into a coupla memes and gifs?

Challenge accepted.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

S

Yeah, I see that. It’s just that I have a very limited amount of gifs saved to my phone and look for every opportunity I can to place them where it may garner a giggle. I’m usually not reading the article posted and do appreciate when complex matters can be condensed into meme format.

SO.......you steal memes.....how low brow.

You would think someone wouldchave stolen one of my memes by now.....but i guess i am an undiscovered great talent..........
Or my memes just suck.

 

[lash]

S

SO.......you steal memes.....how low brow.
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You would think someone wouldchave stolen one of my memes by now.....but i guess i am an undiscovered great talent..........
Or my memes just suck.

No, I will definitely repost, er uhm, launder this meme at some point. Thanks!

 

[lash]

S

SO.......you steal memes.....how low brow.
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You would think someone wouldchave stolen one of my memes by now.....but i guess i am an undiscovered great talent..........
Or my memes just suck.

But does it really dark matter?

 

[Skeptic1]

In the beginning was the Word…
Math that.

1 2 3 4 5 6 and on the 7th He rest

 

[sirhrmechanic]

1 2 3 4 5 6 and on the 7th He rest

Lazyass… must not have had a farm or a small business!!

Sirhr