This is how you act with honor

[sirhrmechanic]

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2025/09/27/ex-bears-safety-charles-tillman-quit-fbi-over-disagreement-trumps-immigration-crackdown/

The guy didn’t like what the FBI and ICE are doing.

So instead of undermining the administration, being a leaker, faking Russia Hoaxes, or tipping-off criminals (aka acting like a swamp-dweller)… he handed in his badge and resigned after eight years in the FBI.

May not agree with his reasons… but he made what he thinks is the right decision for himself in light of the new reality inside the bureau. He turned in His badge and resigned.

This is how one should behave if you decide that you aren’t willing to follow your Director, your DoJ or your CinC.

This is what “honor” looks like.

Sirhr

 

[c1steve]

If someone could explain to Tillman about Soros, the New World Order, and all the evil they are trying to implement, he might come around to our side.

 

[TACC]

He is mature enough to understand, he just doesn't want to. He ain't never changing.

 

[Milf Dots]

Dems should be banned from all gov't jobs to include teaching at any level K thru Doctorates.

 

[918v]

If someone could explain to Tillman about Soros, the New World Order, and all the evil they are trying to implement, he might come around to our side.

It would be a waste of time.

 

[Redlion]

Dems should be banned from all gov't jobs to include teaching at any level K thru Doctorates living.

Fixed.

 

[918v]

Interesting this intelligent college educated man had no problem when the FBI was going after Trump and his crew, but all of a sudden he’s disillusioned when the course has been corrected.

 

[Rthur]

Interesting this intelligent college educated man had no problem when the FBI was going after Trump and his crew, but all of a sudden he’s disillusioned when the course has been corrected.

Wonder how many resigned after 1/6 ?

R

 

[Fig]

I completely disagree. Quite an accusation that deserves something other than platitudes! What "things" did the administration do that went against his beliefs? Following the law? You can't just throw that out there, leave it at that, and claim the moral high-ground!!! You can't pretend that you are resigning for the sake of "beliefs", whatever the fuck that means, and pretend that you sprung forth fully formed from the head of Zeus!!! This guy was at the FBI for the last EIGHT YEARS! That has been some of the worst political shady shit since we had a tranny psychopath at the head of the FBI!

But, to your point. Plenty of agents knew that Crossfire Hurricane was wrong, J6 was wrong, Comey leaking his POTUS conversations was wrong, Comey lying to the President's and Congress' face about investigating Trump was wrong, deciding not to prosecute Hillary Clinton for her secret server and her documented crimes was wrong, fabricating an intelligence assessment to get a Special Prosecutor appointed was wrong, trying to entrap and persecute General Flynn was wrong, etc., etc, etc....all wrong. How many famous FBI agents resigned in protest of this weaponization and politisation of the FBI? How many "honorable" ones blew the whistle? How many testified? By my count it's like three, and as soon as the news cycle was over they disappeared from public view. I hope Patel and Bongino made sure the actually brave, ethical, and moral agents were taken care of and protected. If they didn't they suck too.

There has been a shit ton of wrong things that have gone on at the FBI while this ethically stunted moral midget looked on. To resign now tells me that he was part and parcel of the rot in the FBI that Comey and crew brought, and that he probably resigned before he was fired.

 

[918v]

If you think about it, that’s how democrats roll.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

I completely disagree. Quite an accusation that deserves something other than platitudes! What "things" did the administration do that went against his beliefs? Following the law? You can't just throw that out there, leave it at that, and claim the moral high-ground!!! You can't pretend that you are resigning for the sake of "beliefs", whatever the fuck that means, and pretend that you sprung forth fully formed from the head of Zeus!!! This guy was at the FBI for the last EIGHT YEARS! That has been some of the worst political shady shit since we had a tranny psychopath at the head of the FBI!

But, to your point. Plenty of agents knew that Crossfire Hurricane was wrong, J6 was wrong, Comey leaking his POTUS conversations was wrong, Comey lying to the President's and Congress' face about investigating Trump was wrong, deciding not to prosecute Hillary Clinton for her secret server and her documented crimes was wrong, fabricating an intelligence assessment to get a Special Prosecutor appointed was wrong, trying to entrap and persecute General Flynn was wrong, etc., etc, etc....all wrong. How many famous FBI agents resigned in protest of this weaponization and politisation of the FBI? How many "honorable" ones blew the whistle? How many testified? By my count it's like three, and as soon as the news cycle was over they disappeared from public view. I hope Patel and Bongino made sure the actually brave, ethical, and moral agents were taken care of and protected. If they didn't they suck too.

There has been a shit ton of wrong things that have gone on at the FBI while this ethically stunted moral midget looked on. To resign now tells me that he was part and parcel of the rot in the FBI that Comey and crew brought, and that he probably resigned before he was fired.

All of the above. But at least he quit and didn’t do like hundreds of others… and stay behind to be “the Resistance.”

Resigning is what you need to do instead of undermining.

Wonder how many generals and admirals are going to resign Wednesday night?

When honestly some of them should be eating their sidearms For treason.

Sirhr

 

[918v]

If he gets a job as a high school football coach then I might agree. Let’s see what becomes of him.

 

[mtwarych]

Does the FBI have their new agents swear an oath to the constitution?

How does "foreign or domestic" fit in here?

I never went to war like some of you but, I was frontline and ready when the Faulkland Islands popped off.

Should I have refused to go? I wasn't overly happy to go to war over a couple useless islands that mean nothing to me?

Quitting because I didn't like where this war was going doesn't make me honorable. It makes me a backstabber to my fellow Marines.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Does the FBI have their new agents swear an oath to the constitution?

How does "foreign or domestic" fit in here?

I never went to war like some of you but, I was frontline and ready when the Faulkland Islands popped off.

Should I have refused to go? I wasn't overly happy to go to war over a couple useless islands that mean nothing to me?

Quitting because I didn't like where this war was going doesn't make me honorable. It makes me a backstabber to my fellow Marines.

Different when You have an enlistment contract or it’s time of war and you are a soldier.

Yup, he swore an oath. But decided to terminate his employment.

We have (had?) a thing here in US called “Oathkeepers.” Basically it was informal, but there may have been some central organization at one point t. I don’t remember. And it was more of a “I identify with this group vs. am a member.” I don’t think there was a membership.

Oathkeepers got branded a domestic terrorist/ white supremacist/hate group under Obama.
I think some folks were prosecuted.

But the only point of identifying as an “Oath Keeper” was that if you swore to uphold the Constitution, it was for life. Whether you were still in uniform (or office) or not.

I think the whole concept, along with the III percent were both crushed… by the left which saw anyone swearing an oath to the Consitution as a threat to swearing allegiance to Marx or Bernie or Obama. And they were willing to put the full weight of federal LE against it.

I doubt any FBI agents Resigned over that….

And no idea the status of either organization now.

Sirhr

BTW, reading a great book by Tony Shaw called “The South Georgia Boating Club” about the SAS and SBS in the Falklands. Worth the read for many reasons!!!

 

[lonegunman762x51]

https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2025/09/27/ex-bears-safety-charles-tillman-quit-fbi-over-disagreement-trumps-immigration-crackdown/

The guy didn’t like what the FBI and ICE are doing.

So instead of undermining the administration, being a leaker, faking Russia Hoaxes, or tipping-off criminals (aka acting like a swamp-dweller)… he handed in his badge and resigned after eight years in the FBI.

May not agree with his reasons… but he made what he thinks is the right decision for himself in light of the new reality inside the bureau. He turned in His badge and resigned.

This is how one should behave if you decide that you aren’t willing to follow your Director, your DoJ or your CinC.

This is what “honor” looks like.

Sirhr

Interesting take. How many people do you think he crapped upon when he set his personal beliefs above the rule of law in his career? Hundreds as a minimum and you worship his dedication to leftist hate.

Imagine this slanted loser, who's personal hatred for the Constitution and rule of law so blinds him that he openly admits he cannot work within a framework of following the law and equally applying it to American citizens. He cannot find a way to arrest domestic terrorists because he agrees with their views so he lets them go. He supports church burning, child rapists and human traffickers as long as they are democrats. He hides their reports, he alters his paperwork to protect them and he is willing to lie to convict those he dislikes politically. I wonder how many good defense lawyers are reviewing any case he testified in over his career. A guy who quits because laws are being applied equally, is a guy who lies under oath.

You are a strange sense of honor. And you worship the wrong sort of people.

 

[sirhrmechanic]

Interesting take. How many people do you think he crapped upon when he set his personal beliefs above the rule of law in his career? Hundreds as a minimum and you worship his dedication to leftist hate.

Imagine this slanted loser, who's personal hatred for the Constitution and rule of law so blinds him that he openly admits he cannot work within a framework of following the law and equally applying it to American citizens. He cannot find a way to arrest domestic terrorists because he agrees with their views so he lets them go. He supports church burning, child rapists and human traffickers as long as they are democrats. He hides their reports, he alters his paperwork to protect them and he is willing to lie to convict those he dislikes politically. I wonder how many good defense lawyers are reviewing any case he testified in over his career. A guy who quits because laws are being applied equally, is a guy who lies under oath.

You are a strange sense of honor. And you worship the wrong sort of people.

Ok… I’ll backtrack and say he “acted
Appropriately” when he resigned.

And we have no idea how he acted as an agent. So not going to speculate.

Sirhr

 

[Fig]

Resigning because you don’t believe in what you’re doing IS honorable. The timing of this screams, “Don’t let the door hitya…”

 

[The D]

He’s one of my favorite Chicago Bears ever and I was disappointed that he started an fbi career after his football retirement

 

[diggler1833]

When I had a new Bn Commander come in - who had two tours as a recruiting officer - and state as his opening staff meeting that we were going to "do things systematically" (a recruiting term), I filed my Appendix J (retirement request) that same day. As a former recruiter, there is nothing that I hate more than a recruiting atmosphere (and frequently I despise former recruiters too, but that is case-by-case).

I did have to request retirement almost a year out, because I wanted to finish my MBA and I had five classes left. I could have been cheeky and made it for four months out (the minimal time), but I still had that selfish reason for staying in. The added benefit for a making it a year out is that it opened another promotion spot for my MOS in the subsequent E-8, E-7, and E-6 boards. Plus, I was able to finagle it to get almost 90 days of terminal leave.

It was the culmination of my disillusionment of what my once beloved USMC had come to. It is also the reason why I've never worn a single USMC item since retirement aside from a unit t-shirt some of the boys gave me at my going away. * I know I've stated that before.

At least this Tillman guy chose to leave without overtly undermining the system. If he continues that path, then my hat is off to him. However, as an American patriot (or supposed to be IOT be an FBI agent IMO), why he just now has this level of a problem with our immigration system is a head-scratcher to me.

 

[mosin46]

no ideas on this resignation issue. i do have some concerns about the ones that are still in place. they knowingly followed the obviously illegal,unconstitutional ,abusive orders coming from all the recent presidents. now they are doing good work? BS. they are just following their new master's orders. their dedication has nothing to do with protecting the country. if Biden got back in tomorrow they would dump the current work and go back to the 1/6 action. wouldn't miss a beat. yea,prob a large # remained so they could screw with anything new that interfered with the deep state agenda. every FBI employee is a member of that group. enthusiasm varies.
the whole thing should have been shut down on 1/20. FBI has never been anything but a USA NKVD/Gestapo since the beginning. same goes for ATF,HS,CIA,IRS. building a new and loyal security establishment would be a mo.fu. but it needs doing. what we have and have had has been working against the framers and 1-10 for decades.

 

[alamo5000]

What gets me is people saying things like 'this is Trump's policy'.

Well, kind of, I guess. The status quo for the longest time has been to simply ignore the law as it was written.

Then when someone comes in and says 'we will not ignore the law, but rather we will enforce it' they become the bad guy.

Literally everything Trump has done in regards to immigration is perfectly in accordance with the law and how it is written.

It's literally no different than a cop that refuses to enforce the speed limit just because he doesn't like it.

 

[alamo5000]

In the town where I work at, the chief of police was finally fired from his position. Among many other factors, one of the things people complained about was not enforcing parking violations.

Literally 18 wheeler trailers were all over the place and left for weeks and months without being moved. Some of them even blocked some local businesses and you could call the cops all you wanted. They would simply show up and tell you that it was against the policy of the PD to do anything. That lasted for years. At least until the new Chief showed up. And wouldn't you know it, he got put on blast online for "changing the policy".

The truth is, even though the city council formally met and changed and clarified the existing parking ordinances, the old chief still refused to enforce it which ultimately was part of his undoing. Two years after the city council set it out he was still refusing to do anything.

The speculation was that someone in the PD had family ties to some of those trucking companies.

But again, the new guy showed up and was thrown all the way under the bus for doing exactly what the city council hired him to do.

This whole immigration thing is literally no different. And if this FBI guy resigned because he wanted to carry on the 'ignore' policy, I don't see any honor in that whatsoever.

 

[Duc]

With a net worth (according to the WWW) of between 10 and 29 MILLION dollars, it was not a tough choice.

 

[918v]

What gets me is people saying things like 'this is Trump's policy'.

Well, kind of, I guess. The status quo for the longest time has been to simply ignore the law as it was written.

Then when someone comes in and says 'we will not ignore the law, but rather we will enforce it' they become the bad guy.

Literally everything Trump has done in regards to immigration is perfectly in accordance with the law and how it is written.

It's literally no different than a cop that refuses to enforce the speed limit just because he doesn't like it.

You say it as if there is something wrong with the law. We don’t need the third world here. They can stay home and improve their own country.

 

[alamo5000]

They say it as if there is something wrong with the law. We don’t need the third world here. They can stay home and improve their own country.

Fixed it for you.

 

[SilentStalkr]

With a net worth (according to the WWW) of between 10 and 29 MILLION dollars, it was not a tough choice.

Ding ding ding! Winner winner chicken dinner. This dude didn’t decide to leave for any moral high ground. We should not label him as honorable in any way. He clearly stood by and allowed some shady shit to go on. And here is the thing, none of this changes until the Constitution is respected again and people are held accountable. No matter his reasons for leaving, there are 4 more in line like him or worse just waiting to trash the constitution some more. It’s like watching a kid who has never been backhanded before do more stupid shit. People like this dude will inhabit these positions and continue to do shitty stuff until there is real punishment for actions. America has lost its way and has got too soft. If you don’t punch a bully in the nose every now and then, what are they going to do? And sadly, these people have got away with shit for so long that our society is a direct reflection of the unaccountability system they have now set up. It’s a runaway train at this point. I’m not even sure if can be saved, much less without some serious and I do mean serious action, like now.

 

[Holliday]

Fixed.

Easy there….we need someone to work the fields.