Load development help?

[Emerson0311]

No, it doesn't.

Seems he is at the bench shooting....

The fools errand is attempting to appease every joker who just learned the phrase statically significant.

You know what I’m getting at. In a BR shooting situation the OP is working hard but basically polishing a turd. One that would be perfect tool fit for another task.

 

[богдан]

No, it doesn't.

Seems he is at the bench shooting....

The fools errand is attempting to appease every joker who just learned the phrase statically significant.

I am sure the OP is quite impressed with peoples degrees and intelects and understanding of statitics and big ole brains, but telling him about it in his reloading thread is probably more like wasting his time than actually helping him.

I would agree that the load is good enough to hunt and have fun with. And I would agree that shooting more from feild postions helps more in the field than shrinking group sizes from 1 moa to 1/2 moa from the bench would.

I think learning the process is important, and I think that's what the OP asked about and wants to learn about.

I am shooting off a bench atm. First step is knowing what the tools capabilities are minus as many other variables as possible within reason. I know its not a match rifle and dont have those aspirations for it. When I rebarrel .5-75 moa I think will be doable from a bench.

Real world usually is a little different. And I in the past ive done alot of "shooting from field positions) but I dont have the taxpayer as my hobbies patron anymore.
But I will be practicing more as I have not done any serious shooting in 3 years at this juncture.

But I appreciate everyones replies and perspectives. Even when folks disagree its a inflection point to look into opposing views and learn.

 

[Emerson0311]

I am shooting off a bench atm. First step is knowing what the tools capabilities are minus as many other variables as possible within reason. I know its not a match rifle and dont have those aspirations for it. When I rebarrel .5-75 moa I think will be doable from a bench.

Real world usually is a little different. And I in the past ive done alot of "shooting from field positions) but I dont have the taxpayer as my hobbies patron anymore.
But I will be practicing more as I have not done any serious shooting in 3 years at this juncture.

But I appreciate everyones replies and perspectives. Even when folks disagree it’s an inflection point to look into opposing views and learn.

You are on the right track, but that particular rifle is probably not capable of much better. Your reloading process could become very precise and by the results that rifle would give you, you would never know it. The cost might seem unsound, but you would better off with a know proven 1/2 MOA rifle that did not have a sporter stock. It seems that every random shooter has a rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA. Meet a shooter with a 223 bolt gun at the range and when he shoots a 1/2 MOA or less 5 shot group, buy his rifle. I’m saying this as a guy with $10’s K into the shooting sports, much of it unnecessary because no one told me this stuff beforehand.

 

[supercorndogs]

I have no idea why you think an old production remington 700 has no chance of being a shooter.

I would expect the exact opposite based on my experince.

 

[богдан]

You are on the right track, but that particular rifle is probably not capable of much better. Your reloading process could become very precise and by the results that rifle would give you, you would never know it. The cost might seem unsound, but you would better off with a know proven 1/2 MOA rifle that did not have a sporter stock. It seems that every random shooter has a rifle that shoots 1/2 MOA. Meet a shooter with a 223 bolt gun at the range and when he shoots a 1/2 MOA or less 5 shot group, buy his rifle. I’m saying this as a guy with $10’s K into the shooting sports, much of it unnecessary because no one told me this stuff beforehand.

I have one topped sith a scope thats gone with me on alot of deploymentsl . But I dont feel like lugging an almost 15lb rifle Around hunting.
And like i said 1 moa is fine currently when i get it rebarreled in a year or so it will be about a pound heavier and Ill be getting the action blueprinted as well so better expectation. Meaning around .5-.75 off a bench range would be great but im ok even if it sits at 1 moa.

 

[Doom]

1/2 MOA expectation, but then saying 5 precise shots can’t be expected because the rifle is old and generic? Bullshit.

I don't say anything about the rifle being old. I didn't say anything about generic but yes, it's a wood stock, probably not even pillar bedded. As for 5 shots, taking 6 minutes between shots tends to open up the groups making the group noise than the load. It appears the OP is doing a pretty good job of getting back on the rifle.

 

[богдан]

I don't say anything about the rifle being old. I didn't say anything about generic but yes, it's a wood stock, probably not even pillar bedded. As for 5 shots, taking 6 minutes between shots tends to open up the groups making the group noise than the load. It appears the OP is doing a pretty good job of getting back on the rifle.

Between first photos at begining op and second round of them. Rifle has been pillar and glass bedded.