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Range Report Books on Ballistics

ZacknBaker

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To anyone out there can help me out, I am an engineering student pursuing a degree in aeronautical engineering and looking towards ballistics. I am trying to find really good texts on the subject, but am looking for technical reading.

Thanks for any help.
 
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Look up Brian Litz, he's got a second edition out on Applied Ballistics. He posts here ocassionally, and is the Chief Ballistician for Berger Bullets. Send him a PM and he'll put you on the right track!
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Litz's Applied Exterior Ballistics For Long Range Shooting is geared toward the average shooter/hunter. As an engineer, you'll appreciate McCoy's Modern exterior Ballistics much more.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David P</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Litz's Applied Exterior Ballistics For Long Range Shooting is geared toward the average shooter/hunter. As an engineer, you'll appreciate McCoy's Modern exterior Ballistics much more. </div></div>

+1 McCoy's "Modern Exterior Ballistics: The Launch and Flight Dynamics of Symmetric Projectiles" is the standard text for the engineering student.
 
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I'd still get Litz' book. It will help you learn to convey complex information to us idjit non-engineers. It's evident he has the solid engineering knowledge underlying what he discusses.
 
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I actually just had this conversation with Mr. Litz... he recommended McCoy's book for the technical stuff... I went ahead and ordered both!

I don't know how far along in school you are, but I got the impression McCoy's text is pretty math heavy... so it might be a good idea to use Litz's as a primer. That's my plan... it's been years since I graduated, and the most difficult math I've used at work is long division... lol


 
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Make sure you get the errata sheet, actually quite a few pages, for McCoy's book, google will find it for you.

I have both Litz and McCoy and they both have a place. Brian has done the shooting community a great service by measuring the BC's of most of the bullets used by LR shooters using the same methods and equipment. Brian also has a great ability to discuss ballistics in a way that someone without a math background can probably understand.
 
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I just got Litz' book and it's well written and conveyed in a manner that a layman (non-engineer) can follow. It's a good start in that it's not inundated with formulas but has enough to make this old boy stop to re-read. Plus the appendix has quite a bit of ballistics on various popular bullets. And the little ballistics program is very nice.
 
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There's one more book that you may be interested in adding to your collection and that is Ballistics, Theory and Design of Guns and Ammunition by Donald Carlucci.

Both this book and the McCoy book are math intensive (Calculus level) but are very thorough. Ballistics also touches on Internal Ballistics while McCoy is only external ballistics.

http://www.amazon.com/Ballistics-Theory-...7085&sr=8-1
 
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I would recommend the following:

1) McCoy is the master of all books. There is a reason why all other books that were written after that cite his book. The book was written after he passed and compiled by his peers which speak to his life as a person and ballistician. There are a lot of errors so look up the errata and spend an hour getting them input into the book.

2) Litz takes the engineering out of McCoy and is useful for getting your bearings (even as an engineer). He also has some spin drift equations and data collection in of themselves worth the value of the book. He generally peruses the forum and I think an aeronautical engineer like yourself.

3) Ballistics by Carlucci is like McCoy but IMO is superfluous on external ballistics to McCoy. However, he has equations on all 4 parts of ballistics and I purchased in the event I study the other 3 areas. He works at Picatinny Arsenal. I talked to one of his friends whom I am taking classes with and he uses it a lot in ballistics.

4) If you are pursuing Aeronautics, you may want to do a study on approximate methods for predicting aerodynamic coefficients. CFD, or "colorful" fluid dynamics, has some significant limitations, and experimentation is expensive. So your next best thing is to use empirical data interpolation. I would look for AP09 or missile DATCOM software that your school hopefully has available? I am taking classes at a military school, so they maybe a little harder otherwise to come by. Frank G. Moore's book on Approximate Methods for Weapon Aerodynamics could be quite helpful. I have yet to purchase the book, but took a course from Max Platzer that was a derivative of that book. Platzer got to work with Von Braun on the Saturn 5, and had a lot of good history stories. I will be purchasing the book soon when I have the time and money to read it. Of note: you start looking at bullets and missile in the same light.

6) Take a class, or do some reading on numerical analysis. Also get very familiar with MATLAB. No real book to encourage here. I use to avoid matlab like the plague in my undergrad, but it is extremely helpful to solve time-step problems.

I have pursued quite a bit of books on the topic, and they should get you started. If you want 1 book, it starts and ends with McCoy. The book is also a very reasonable price. I WOULD NOT buy Art Pejsa's book. The quality of the formatting, the dimensional analysis problems of the equations, and the method are just a waste of money. He was a physicist and a math teacher from my former alumni; I would expect a better product. To his defense, I was so mad by the formatting, I gave up by page 3. I may try to finish the book when I retire in 40 years.

Let me know if you have any questions.
 
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"Rifle Accuracy Facts" by Harold R. Vaughn
Very informative on the procedures used but it's an older book. Only a decade old, one of the best books I have read.
 
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Does anyone know if the corrections have been made in the 2nd edition of McCoys "Modern Exterior Ballistics"?
 
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Back in the mid-1990's I decided I needed to 'bite the bullet' and study exterior ballistics at the theoretical/mathematical level.

I was very fortunate to have the Sierra Rifle Reloading Manual, 4th (50th Anniversary) Edition, Copyright 1995. In it, section VIII devotes about 400 pages to the subject, including drop charts for each of Sierra's bullets. Lacking College level math; I was still able to wade through this section and emerge with my wits intact and a far better grasp of theoretical exterior ballistics. With some fierce commitment, I believe most other forum members here could do likewise; but ya gotta be in it for the long haul.

I was quite disappointed to find this information absent from the current edition.

Greg
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know if the corrections have been made in the 2nd edition of McCoys "Modern Exterior Ballistics"? </div></div>

Mine came with a sheet of paper with all the correction on it and I added them to the text with a pencil.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know if the corrections have been made in the 2nd edition of McCoys "Modern Exterior Ballistics"? </div></div>

Mine came with a sheet of paper with all the correction on it and I added them to the text with a pencil.

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Thanks for your answer. The complete errata list is several sheets of paper. You can find it here: http://www.dexadine.com/mccoy.html
Would you mind looking if these corrections made it to the new edition?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tob</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JamesBailey</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Does anyone know if the corrections have been made in the 2nd edition of McCoys "Modern Exterior Ballistics"? </div></div>

Mine came with a sheet of paper with all the correction on it and I added them to the text with a pencil.

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Thanks for your answer. The complete errata list is several sheets of paper. You can find it here: http://www.dexadine.com/mccoy.html
Would you mind looking if these corrections made it to the new edition? </div></div>

No, they have not been made in the edition I have (2nd edition).
 
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That's incredible! All this work made by Don...