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Sidearms & Scatterguns moving to California

Belisarius

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Can I, as a new resident, register a Sig P220 super match which is a non compliant gun, bought in GA?
 
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I would suggest that you contact a FFL in California .. I moved out of the State (thank God). I know that you can not have magazines over 10 rounds. Also you need to get a Gun License.

The FFL should know the in's and the outs -- but if it is a non-compliant gun and if you have some nice rifles -- I would find a trusted friend in GA to keep them for you so when you run from that State with your hair on fire, you can reclaim your weapons.

Good Luck and I hope you are moving there for a good reason. I moved out of that state and took a 50% hit to my Salary and would do it all over again.

-K
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kevlars</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would suggest that you contact a FFL in California .. I moved out of the State (thank God). I know that you can not have magazines over 10 rounds. Also you need to get a Gun License.

The FFL should know the in's and the outs -- but if it is a non-compliant gun and if you have some nice rifles -- I would find a trusted friend in GA to keep them for you so when you run from that State with your hair on fire, you can reclaim your weapons.

Good Luck and I hope you are moving there for a good reason. I moved out of that state and took a 50% hit to my Salary and would do it all over again.

-K </div></div>

+100000 on that.



 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Belisarius</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Can I, as a new resident, register a Sig P220 super match which is a non compliant gun, bought in GA? </div></div>


In short "No" the gun is not on the list. It's a stupid list because it is the CA certified list of guns that pass the CA drop test. The test cannot be done by the manufacturer and must be done by the State of CA or authorized testers.

When I lived in CA I wanted a Sig P220 Carry SAS because it didn't have the rail. I was unable to purchase it because it had not been tested. However, the Sig P220 carry with the rail had been tested. Same gun one just has a rail and the other doesn't.

Here's the list-

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/
 
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If you happen to be active duty there are some exceptions while under orders to allow you to keep a few. If that's the case you may have better luck rephrasing the topic to reflect the circumstance.

I was on the verge of a x-fer there myself a few years back and posed the same question but I cannot find the thread with all of the info and references.
 
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http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale
That's list of guns for sale, I already have the gun, and I understand I can't sell it in the state, is not a list of guns prohibited to possess. Am I way off?
 
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Agree. Personally owned pistols "imported" into the state by individuals should be no problem. I would leave any high capacity magazines behind.

If you have an AR or other "evil looking rifle", install a bullet button before moving to CA. Also check the list of "absolutely banned" models and dispose of them prior to moving to CA.

--Rootshot
 
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I think you will be OK. My misses recently bought a Taurus PT 1911 "Not on the List" from a friend who is LE through a local FFL in Placerville CA. No problems.
 
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Saw the title of the thread, immediately did a *facepalm*. Good luck to you, and maybe (just maybe) you get those hippies to reverse those unconstitutional gun laws.
 
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The question is this: You are importing the gun, are you importing it for sale?

In the 25+ years I spent in California, I found it was up to the officer or the ADA to decide whether you had intent. Once they decided, it was up to you to prove you didn't.

Get that, they decide you have intent to sell the firearm, you have to prove you didn't and don't intend to sell the firearm in the state of CA. Yes, you have to prove you are innocent, not the other way around.

Mind you, that is my experience from growing up and living in CA. Your mileage may vary.

As per the prior poster, I too left CA with a salary decrease (mine got cut by about $40k when I left. The funny thing is...I actually got more cash per paycheck when I got to WA due to the lack of a state income tax
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--Wintermute
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spaceman_Spiff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Saw the title of the thread, immediately did a *facepalm*. Good luck to you, and maybe (just maybe) you get those hippies to reverse those unconstitutional gun laws. </div></div>

Seeing as how you are from NY, the Irony in this statement is too good to be true.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BALLISTIC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spaceman_Spiff</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Saw the title of the thread, immediately did a *facepalm*. Good luck to you, and maybe (just maybe) you get those hippies to reverse those unconstitutional gun laws. </div></div>

Seeing as how you are from NY, the Irony in this statement is too good to be true. </div></div>

+1....that's funny!
 
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Thank you for the help everyone!!!



Agree. Personally owned pistols "imported" into the state by individuals should be no problem. I would leave any high capacity magazines behind.

If you have an AR or other "evil looking rifle", install a bullet button before moving to CA. Also check the list of "absolutely banned" models and dispose of them prior to moving to CA.

--Rootshot
_________________________What is a bullet button?
 
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Google it. It is a device that disables the finger operation of the magazine release, so that a tool is needed, and therefore the rifle is not considered to have a detachable magazine, which allows the rifle to be configured with 'evil' features.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BALLISTIC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your handguns are fine, but they will cost $19 each. The CA DOJ roster list is only for NEW CA purchases.

See here:

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/ab991</div></div>
This is my understanding also.
Of course along with the magazine ban. However if you were a resident here and had high capacity magazines that were in your possession on or before Dec 31 1999 they are legal for you to keep but not sell in the state of Kalifornia. There is some obscure stuff about magazine bodies as parts and assembling them into hi cap but I do not have enough info on them to give you a for sure answer so I will not give it.
 
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Call the California State's Attorney General's Office, they deal with these questions often.

When I moved to California in 2000 I did not know you had to register handguns, I had a Kimber, I found out two years later that I did. Tried going to FFL's and getting it registered, they were worried, can't blame them, but I ended up just talking to the AG's office.

They were very nice, and sent the paperwork, its more of a tax than anything else.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gildoom</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Call the California State's Attorney General's Office, they deal with these questions often.

When I moved to California in 2000 I did not know you had to register handguns, I had a Kimber, I found out two years later that I did. Tried going to FFL's and getting it registered, they were worried, can't blame them, but I ended up just talking to the AG's office.

They were very nice, and sent the paperwork, its more of a tax than anything else. </div></div>
It is always about the money here.
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Move to California? You must have got one hell of an offer! I know what it would take to get me to move out there. I can only hope it's worth it.
 
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Just moved out of there. Refuse to go back even to visit family. If you have an option, find somewhere else
 
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Check with these guys:

www.Calguns.net

There are several links to the applicable California laws. I find it better to read those and know what is OK, then take my chances talking to a California FFL. Some, but not all, are almost as oblivious to the laws of the state as most of the random guys walking down the street.

Good luck with your move.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: The Mechanic</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There is some obscure stuff about magazine bodies as parts and assembling them into hi cap but I do not have enough info on them to give you a for sure answer so I will not give it. </div></div>


I've read that as well. If you import the magazine body, spring, follower, and floorplate seperatly and call it a magazine repair or something, you can skirt that pesky 10rd limit. I don't know the exact procedure or terminology though.
 
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You can absolutely bring that gun to California if you move there. The only things that you can't have are assault weapons banned by name or feature and pistols with threaded barrels (also sbr's, no silencers, etc). Please refer to calguns.net for any questions on brining guns into ca, as there is a treasure trove of info.

Also, any guns you bring in will have to be registered with the california doj which is $19 per gun. The form is on the cal doj website.

Pm me if you have any other question I might be able to answer.
 
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Not only can you bring it, but I'd suggest you buy any non-rostered handguns you want before you move here UNLESS your parents or grandparents live out of state.

Roster- http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/
DOJ Form for handguns- http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/ab991frm.pdf?

California residents can receive non-rostered handguns through an intra-familial transfer as well. You just fill out a form and mail it to them, same as moving here.

Intrafamilial form- http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/pdfs/firearms/forms/oplaw.pdf?

This can only be parents or grandparents, no brothers, uncles etc etc.

The main gotcha for handguns is you can't have threaded barrels no matter what, it makes them "assault weapons". Generally this law is critical to watch for violations of in your gear you bring to the state.

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/regs/genchar2

I'd recommend checking out calguns.net, it's an exceptional resource for CA gun owners.

Any over 10 rd mags you have can be disassembled and brought into the state as "parts kits", but it is illegal to import any mag over 10rds, or reassemble/manufacture them while in the state.
 
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Man, do everything you can NOT to move to CA! Problem solved.
 
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It's not all that bad, you can buy an off the roster long or handgun from any class 7 licensed FFL and all they have to do a single shot process. I bought a Sig P226 Elite Dark and a buddy of mine got a P226 combat both are off the roster hand guns. As fa as the bullet button and 10 rond mags yeah it sux but if you take carbine courses or run the IPSC course anything goes. But you have to convert it back to CA compliant befor leaving the range.
I'll ask my FFL for you I'll get back to you in a few days or so.
 
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it's not just the gun laws, it's everything, immigration, high taxes, liberal government, water/drought problems, etc.

If you have to go, good luck and try to stay out of the cities, I'd pick Nor Cal towards Tahoe if it were me, maybe Colfax or something up the highway a bit.
 
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This thread's title just looks like a whole bunch of fail.
 
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On the high capacity magazines, all you have to do is disassemble them and you can keep them. Once disassembled they become 'rebuild kits' and are fine. You can keep them that way and reassemble them for out of state shooting once out of state or convert them into 10 rounds only which is a popular thing to do with ARs and AKs since you wouldn't be stuck with the short 10 rounders.
 
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It is worse than that bad. The day I left CA was one of the happiest of my life. Pay got cut by $40k in the move to the new job...still got more actual money in my check without the CA income tax taking it's share out (really, it was almost $500 more take home even with the lower salary). Ohh yeah, and I own a bunch of AR's here which are all nifty and fun with foregrips, adjustable stocks, 30rd mags, etc... Stuff you just can't possess in CA without being labelled a mass murderer in the making.

--Wintermute
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snipe10</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it's not just the gun laws, it's everything, immigration, high taxes, liberal government, water/drought problems, etc.

If you have to go, good luck and try to stay out of the cities, I'd pick Nor Cal towards Tahoe if it were me, maybe Colfax or something up the highway a bit. </div></div>


I live in the area you mentioned. It's very conservative around here and there's plenty of good gun stores, so it's not too bad, but it's still CA.
 
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My first word of advice is to stay in Georgia.

Second, Yes you can bring your Sig, if you have hicap disassemble them and keep them that way while in CA, that or just leave them behind and buy 10 rounders. Completely legal to own disassembled magazines.

Check out this link and read the pdf document:

https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/pages/will-you-ship-to-ca-9.html

Also, get it registered as soon as you get out here. There's a form online you download, fill out, send with money order and problem solved.
 
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New member as of last night but on the first time now. looking around trying to get familar. I saw your post and thought I might be able to help if needed. Basically life long resident, since 2 y.o.
But I would say first, second and third, to stay in Georgia or if need to just leave there go someplace else. I would give anything to be able to leave here. Yes, it really is, in my opinion, that bad. You will find that others, in other states, don't much like to deal with the people here, even when it is the government and not the people actually. As has been said,"I could tell you stories"....
Again, if you would like to send a pm, I am the southern part of the state.
Good luck with whatever you do..
 
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First of all, WHY in the HELL did you move to California!!!??? You want to Know what to do when in California? Get the hell out!! Okay, sorry I had to get that out. It saddens me to see people giving up their rights to live in this socialist piece of shit poor excuse for a state. As to your question. If you allready own the weapon, you can register it here. But you want some advice from a fellow Cali resident? Unless you're goin to use it for home defense, dont register it. If a Leo runs the serial# it wont come up unless its been stolen. And if some how they find out you didnt register it, the worst thing they can do is make you register it. ( They have you take it to a ffl and do the paperwork)
And unless you act like a troublemaker to the cop, they wont even bother. All they really look for is stolen guns. But on the flipside, if it aint registered and it gets stolen, the leo's have no way to return it to you if they ever find it. Hope this helps and welcome to California."Where illegal aliens have more rights than we do" lol I can't wait to leave... This year, thank god. Freedom awaits...
 
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I'd switch places with you if I could, I have one year left on the new home buyers credit before I can sell and GTFO!

Forgot to mention, leave all of your evil black assault weapons behind, but do sign up for your marijuana Medical Card to be used at over 50 dispensaries conveniently located throughout San Diego. This state is a joke!
 
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Remember, you need to be careful when you move to a foreign country, especially a communist one.

I can personally vouch for the massive exodus out of CA. They're all coming to my state. The only problem is the refugees coming from the peoples republic of CA can't seem to leave their liberal ideologies from their former country behind and have decided it best to turn their new home into a Neo California.

Good luck,

K9-
 
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I'm sure the original poster wants his original question answered. So I called a local ffl and asked for him. As long as it's CA compliant he is good to go. But if you want to ask for ourself call these folks from Valkyrie arms they sell off the roster guns all day long. 408 957.0600 hope that helps.
 
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California is full of stupid gun laws that should be ignored. It is NOT illegal to posses an unregistered handgun in CA. Just don't be stupid about it, like carry without a CCW, and you should be fine.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snapperhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">California is full of stupid gun laws that should be ignored. It is NOT illegal to posses an unregistered handgun in CA. Just don't be stupid about it, like carry without a CCW, and you should be fine. </div></div>

CCW...what is that, I think maybe a few thousand people in San Diego county have a valid CCW issued for regular carry, not ones who use their CCW's issued for PSD / security work as a full fledged CCW. California is ANTI-ccw 100%.
 
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at least those guys that sign up for med mary jane cards can't buy any guns! (don't know if the card pops up in background checks or not)
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: daybreak1199</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: snapperhead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">California is full of stupid gun laws that should be ignored. It is NOT illegal to posses an unregistered handgun in CA. Just don't be stupid about it, like carry without a CCW, and you should be fine. </div></div>

CCW...what is that, I think maybe a few thousand people in San Diego county have a valid CCW issued for regular carry, not ones who use their CCW's issued for PSD / security work as a full fledged CCW. California is ANTI-ccw 100%.</div></div>

Many of California's counties issue CCW permits. Unfortuately for daybreak1199 and myself, our Sheriff will not allow us the "privilege".
 
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Ah... don't know if you live there are not ... but right now it IS illegal to own an unregistered weapon in Cali. And if you ignore the the gun laws there -- you will go to jail. You need to have passed the weapons test before you can even purchase a weapon.

I escaped from California, I grew up there and sad to say I am a native. many of my friends are LEO's and they are told to take those laws very seriously.

-K