I have read and read the CMP rule book as far as the requirements and specifications of a service pistol in the 1911 category. I figured it would not hurt to ask you guys that have a lot more competition experience with this and in competition than I. I own a Kimber Desert Warrior and absolutely love it. It was a gift from a now fallen comrade after our first deployment. I will never get rid of it and think it would do him a great honor to compete with it in this level of shooting. Does this pistol meet the requirements for CMP or would i have to do some work on it? I appreciate all of the help I have gotten on this site and am not sure where this should be posted so. Please help! Thanks
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Re: CMP/EIC Service Pistol Parameters
I really don't know that much about Kimbers. All my 1911s are Colt or USGI.
Colt and USGI (1911/1911A1) are pretty much plug and play, meaning the parts are interchangable. If I had s "beaver tail" I could just switch it out in a few munutes for a EIC Match.
I would recommend calling Kimber, tell them you want to shoot CMP EIC matches and they will give you guidence to get your pistol to meet the rules.
Also ask about the rest of the gun. When I made my other post, I based it on looking at a picture of the Desert Warrior and the beaver tail jumped right out at me.
Their may be other problems, I don't know, I don't know anything about those pistols.
I'm sure Kimber had came across the problem before and have the fix for you.
I really don't know that much about Kimbers. All my 1911s are Colt or USGI.
Colt and USGI (1911/1911A1) are pretty much plug and play, meaning the parts are interchangable. If I had s "beaver tail" I could just switch it out in a few munutes for a EIC Match.
I would recommend calling Kimber, tell them you want to shoot CMP EIC matches and they will give you guidence to get your pistol to meet the rules.
Also ask about the rest of the gun. When I made my other post, I based it on looking at a picture of the Desert Warrior and the beaver tail jumped right out at me.
Their may be other problems, I don't know, I don't know anything about those pistols.
I'm sure Kimber had came across the problem before and have the fix for you.
Re: CMP/EIC Service Pistol Parameters
by the picture I saw there no way to make that pistol legal for EIC matches, sorry. The big game ender is the light rail. Some beavertails could be swapped out but the one Kimber uses has the frame rounded and that makes it illegal also.
Unfortunately this happens to a lot of guys that buy a pistol based on a salesman's knowledge of shooting and not a competitive shooters advice. Few of the current factory pistols are legal. I know your case is different, just saying. Really a legal hardball 1911 would be the cheapest for a company to build, it cannot have any bells and whistles. But the extra tight fitting needed to make them shoot well at 50 yards are what keep mass produced companies from making legal ballguns.
I just had one built from parts I had on hand and really they are not that expensive to have built by a true bullseye gunsmith. My pistol was built for less than a top of the line Kimber costs.
btw, I see you're in HI. You have one of the best pistol smiths in the country right there in Honolulu. Ed Masaki, he will get you setup but his backlog might be very long. Try and contact him before you do anything else.
Robert
Distinguished Pistol Shot
P-100
by the picture I saw there no way to make that pistol legal for EIC matches, sorry. The big game ender is the light rail. Some beavertails could be swapped out but the one Kimber uses has the frame rounded and that makes it illegal also.
Unfortunately this happens to a lot of guys that buy a pistol based on a salesman's knowledge of shooting and not a competitive shooters advice. Few of the current factory pistols are legal. I know your case is different, just saying. Really a legal hardball 1911 would be the cheapest for a company to build, it cannot have any bells and whistles. But the extra tight fitting needed to make them shoot well at 50 yards are what keep mass produced companies from making legal ballguns.
I just had one built from parts I had on hand and really they are not that expensive to have built by a true bullseye gunsmith. My pistol was built for less than a top of the line Kimber costs.
btw, I see you're in HI. You have one of the best pistol smiths in the country right there in Honolulu. Ed Masaki, he will get you setup but his backlog might be very long. Try and contact him before you do anything else.
Robert
Distinguished Pistol Shot
P-100
From page 35 of the current CMP rules:
A M1911 pistol with a beavertail grip
safety may not be used, however, a
pistol that has been modified for a
beavertail safety may be used if the
beavertail safety is replaced with an
as-issued grip safety.
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