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Rifle Scopes New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

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Press release from Vortex.

<span style="font-weight: bold">NEW RAZOR HD GEN II 1-6X24 RIFLESCOPE — Poised to dominate!</span>

http://swfa.com/Vortex-1-6x24-Razor-HD-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P55713.aspx

The all-new Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24 riflescope is set to hit the market later this summer and we want you to have the first look and inside scoop. A larger 6x zoom range and host of other exciting features, along with a killer price tag, make this the best Vortex optic for the AR platform yet. In addition, we’ve teamed up with world-renowned competitive shooter, instructor and gunsmith, Jerry Miculek, to create the incredibly fast and intuitive JM-1 BDC reticle.


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The Vortex Optics new Razor HD II 1-6x24 is set to dominate the tactical market. Every component, feature and performance characteristic of this riflescope is so well thought out and executed, it’s almost scary.

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"High quality, high-function optics are a key component to my shooting success. I need a riflescope that delivers the clarity, durability, functionality and speed to get the job done—every time. Collaborating with Vortex Optics on the JM-1 BDC reticle has culminated in the ultimate AR platform riflescope."

— Jerry Miculek

We will be unveiling samples of the new Razor HD Gen II 1—6x24 to the public this week at the 2012 NRA Show in St. Louis, Missouri.

Sincerely,
The Vortex Optics Sales Team


<span style="font-weight: bold"> Razor HD Gen II Riflescope Specifications:</span>

Reticle: SFP, JM-1 BDC (MOA)

Field of View at 100 Yards: 115.2–20.5 Feet

Eye Relief Adjustment: 4.0 Inches

Turret Style: Capped

Tube Diameter: 30 mm

Overall Length: 10.0 Inches

Weight: 18.4 Ounces


<span style="font-weight: bold">SKU: RZR-16003 | $1,399.99 </span>


ETA: August 15, 2012. Please remember ETAs are just estimates and, oftentimes, do change. We will do our very best to deliver this scope as fast as we possibly can.

Key Features•Incredibly versatile and perfect for the AR platform, the new Vortex Razor HD II 1-6x24 is the ideal optical solution for short to medium-range tactical applications requiring the pinnacle of optical performance.

•Delivers the highest level of clarity, resolution, color accuracy, light transmission and edge to edge sharpness obtainable.

•Ultra-forgiving eye box with generous eye-relief for fast target acquisition and both-eyes-open shooting.

•30mm aircraft-grade aluminum tube.

•Zero-resettable turrets offer 50 MOA of adjustment in a single turn—ensuring ample travel.

•Vortex-exclusive JM-1 BDC reticle is simple, clean, intuitive and fast. Designed using input from world-renowned competitive shooter, instructor and gunsmith, Jerry Miculek. >> Click here for a close-up view of the JM-1 BDC reticle.

•True daylight-bright illuminated center dot gives shooters red dot sight functionality and ultimate close-quarters versatility.

•Illumination is accessed and activated via the locking illumination dial—positioned cleanly on the left side of the turret housing.

•Riflescope is o-ring sealed and purged with inert argon gas for absolute waterproof/fogproof performance.

 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

Sure is expensive. I would rather spend 300.00 more and get a NF 2.5x10x32.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NeoItaly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sure is expensive. I would rather spend 300.00 more and get a NF 2.5x10x32. </div></div>

Completely apples and oranges.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

Coming in at 40% of the cost of the S&B 1-8 seems reasonable if the quality is there.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

Im confused, what else more do you want? It says for short and medium range....
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillZone45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Im confused, what else more do you want? It says for short and medium range....</div></div>

Something other than an AGOG'esque BDC reticle & mil adjustments
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Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: truth</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KillZone45</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Im confused, what else more do you want? It says for short and medium range....</div></div>

Something other than an AGOG'esque BDC reticle & mil adjustments
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I meant to quote NeoItaly
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

Well I'm still in for the SWFA SS 1-6x24 HD w/FFP. At $1000 and probable group buy coming up the SS smokes this Vortex..... IMO....... I think the SS 1-6x reticle smokes this Vortex too.
That being said this Vortex does look pretty nice.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

What types of rifles are you using these 1-4 or 1-6 on? I have a Scar 17s that I am still trying to figure out what to put on it..
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NeoItaly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What types of rifles are you using these 1-4 or 1-6 on? I have a Scar 17s that I am still trying to figure out what to put on it.. </div></div>

I want/need the SS 1-6x24 HD for my LR-308.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

The scope, especially the eye housing looks very premierish to me.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

So what do you think would Jerry endorse something that was not of the highest quality?
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NeoItaly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What distance are you shooting with the .308? </div></div>

My .308 AR has a 16" match barrel. 600 yards or so is all I need to think about, out in the field then not even close to that, no prairies where I am. A nice 1-6x will be perfect for my AR.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Vortex Optics new Razor HD II 1-6x24 is set to dominate the tactical market. Every component, feature and performance characteristic of this riflescope is so well thought out and executed, it’s almost scary.
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I'm sorry, did the definition of "tactical" change recently? I guess I didn't receive my notification
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: glock24</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The Vortex Optics new Razor HD II 1-6x24 is set to dominate the tactical market. Every component, feature and performance characteristic of this riflescope is so well thought out and executed, it’s almost scary.
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I'm sorry, did the definition of "tactical" change recently? I guess I didn't receive my notification





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I'm a Vortex fanboy. I think that the optic is a great option for an AR platform. My scopes are MOA/MOA. If the redicle/turrets don't match, I see that as a huge issue. I'm also not convinced it's a "game changer".
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

It's a 3-gun scope. Don't kid yourself. The reticle isn't even MOA, but rather some sort of BDC. We can only assume the turrets are MOA, as there's no detail regarding their value.

I have no problem with 3-gunners, it's just that the Vortex marketing team needs to tone it down a notch;

<span style="font-style: italic">- . . . poised to dominate</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">- . . . tactical applications requiring the pinnacle of optical performance
</span><span style="font-style: italic"> - . . .ultimate close-quarters versatility</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">- . . .clarity, durability, functionality and speed to get the job done—every time</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">- . . .so well thought out and executed, it’s almost scary</span>
<span style="font-style: italic">- . . . the ultimate AR platform riflescope</span>
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

Tactical? Sorry, but SWFA are the ones who got it right for tactical applications with the new 1-6x. That is a 3-gun scope in the same configuration dozens of other 1-(n)x scopes are already offered in: SFP + MOA + BDC. Yawn! Nothing new...

Their 1-4x Viper PST mil based scope would be awesome if they just made it FFP. Really like the center dot for offhand shooting, but hate that it grows relative to the target when the magnification goes down. The center 1 MOA dot on an Eotech is perfect, which is the size the PST center dot is at 4x.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

SWFA is FFP
Vortex is SFP

Sorry Vortex, for a 1-6X optic, FFP is ideal.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tactical? Sorry, but SWFA are the ones who got it right for tactical applications with the new 1-6x. That is a 3-gun scope in the same configuration dozens of other 1-(n)x scopes are already offered in: SFP + MOA + BDC. Yawn! Nothing new...

Their 1-4x Viper PST mil based scope would be awesome if they just made it FFP. Really like the center dot for offhand shooting, but hate that it grows relative to the target when the magnification goes down. The center 1 MOA dot on an Eotech is perfect, which is the size the PST center dot is at 4x. </div></div>

Vortex now has a Viper PST 1-4 with FFP on their website.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Singlestack Wonder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tactical? Sorry, but SWFA are the ones who got it right for tactical applications with the new 1-6x. That is a 3-gun scope in the same configuration dozens of other 1-(n)x scopes are already offered in: SFP + MOA + BDC. Yawn! Nothing new...

Their 1-4x Viper PST mil based scope would be awesome if they just made it FFP. Really like the center dot for offhand shooting, but hate that it grows relative to the target when the magnification goes down. The center 1 MOA dot on an Eotech is perfect, which is the size the PST center dot is at 4x. </div></div>

Vortex now has a Viper PST 1-4 with FFP on their website. </div></div>

MOA with capped turrets and a different reticle... another 3 gun scope. What they need to do is make the uncapped mil version FFP.

The CQBSS with the Horus reticle or the IOR Eliminator have the features and reticle style the tactical crowd is looking for. Basically take the features seen in the latest FFP sniper scopes (PR, S&B PMII, Vortex Razor HD, HDMR), put them in a 1-(n)x scope and add a feature to the reticle that allows it to be used like an Aimpoint at 1x, in daylight.
 
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I agree about this version being a 3Gun scope. But it is nice to see more people, especially quality people, entering the 1-6 scope market at decent prices that us normal folk can justify. IMO the Leupolds, as nice as they seem on paper are unobtainable for me. Just can't see myself dropping $2k on a scope for a hobby.

I can tolerate the SFP and capped turrets, so long as they are sealed and rugged enough to survive with the caps off. Much like 1-4's I don't see people using these at the intermediate powers much. IMO its gonna be a 1 or 6 optic, which is why I can deal with the SFP. Would like a FFP, but I'd concede that point for quality glass and rugged internals at a human price.

The reticle on the other hand has to go. I want the ability to range targets more precisely that what that unit offers. Maybe I'm just anal in that regard though. While I can see the benefits of BDC reticles, I'd like something that was mil or moa based (match the turrets of course). A windage tree also based on the same units would be nice, but not a deal breaker. Offere a few velocity variants like NF does so we can match our loads as best as possible to the reticle we buy. Give me a nice horse shoe or donut for quick up close work. In this regards I think the CMR-W is a good basis.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

it looks good but I would like to see a better reticle and some target turrets. I don't personally need ffp on a scope of this nature but it wouldn't be a negative either. I'm holding out for the SS but this isn't a bad option either.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TAZ</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Much like 1-4's I don't see people using these at the intermediate powers much. IMO its gonna be a 1 or 6 optic, which is why I can deal with the SFP.</div></div>

That's what people told me about the 1-4x Viper PST, and the thing I really detest about it is that center dot being too coarse at 1x if I want to shoot it further out. I LOVE the dot as an aiming feature and if it were on the first focal plane it would remain a constant 0.3 mil (1 MOA) just like an Eotech center dot.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's what people told me about the 1-4x Viper PST, and the thing I really detest about it is that center dot being too coarse at 1x if I want to shoot it further out. I LOVE the dot as an aiming feature and if it were on the first focal plane it would remain a constant 0.3 mil (1 MOA) just like an Eotech center dot. </div></div>

Are you sure you are looking at this correctly? The PST dot is 1 MOA relative to target at 4X. It's actually on the small side and difficult for me to see if the target is painted black, but my eyes are pretty old. 4 MOA at 1x works fine at the shorter distances that 1X will generally be used (100 Yds and under for me, anyway).

The 1-6 Razor sounds like a good 3-Gun optic - essentially an ACOG at 6x and a full sized/easy visible reticle at 1x, since it's SFP.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist~</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's what people told me about the 1-4x Viper PST, and the thing I really detest about it is that center dot being too coarse at 1x if I want to shoot it further out. I LOVE the dot as an aiming feature and if it were on the first focal plane it would remain a constant 0.3 mil (1 MOA) just like an Eotech center dot. </div></div>

Are you sure you are looking at this correctly? The PST dot is 1 MOA relative to target at 4X. It's actually on the small side and difficult for me to see if the target is painted black, but my eyes are pretty old. 4 MOA at 1x works fine at the shorter distances that 1X will generally be used (100 Yds and under for me, anyway). Illumination is not daylight visible on the PST so I'm not sure it can even be compared to a RD.

The 1-6 Razor sounds like a good 3-Gun optic - essentially an ACOG at 6x and a full sized/easy visible reticle at 1x, since it's SFP. </div></div>
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist~</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's what people told me about the 1-4x Viper PST, and the thing I really detest about it is that center dot being too coarse at 1x if I want to shoot it further out. I LOVE the dot as an aiming feature and if it were on the first focal plane it would remain a constant 0.3 mil (1 MOA) just like an Eotech center dot. </div></div>

Are you sure you are looking at this correctly? The PST dot is 1 MOA relative to target at 4X. It's actually on the small side and difficult for me to see if the target is painted black, but my eyes are pretty old. 4 MOA at 1x works fine at the shorter distances that 1X will generally be used (100 Yds and under for me, anyway).

The 1-6 Razor sounds like a good 3-Gun optic - essentially an ACOG at 6x and a full sized/easy visible reticle at 1x, since it's SFP. </div></div>


Turn the illumination on...
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

Vortex has made some interesting scopes recently.

This one looks good for a 3-Gun setup but for tactical use I'd like to see:

- Target Turrets
- Daytime Visible Illumination
- FFP
- Mil / Mil Setup (Reticle & Turret Adjustments)
- Paint it BLACK

 
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per vortex as of today... when asked about new 2x razors...
<span style="font-weight: bold"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="font-size: 20pt">
Next year we will introduce more GEN II Razor HD scopes with higher magnifications. It will take some time for their availability though, won't be early 2013.

</span></div></div> </span>
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shootist~</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kombayotch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
That's what people told me about the 1-4x Viper PST, and the thing I really detest about it is that center dot being too coarse at 1x if I want to shoot it further out. I LOVE the dot as an aiming feature and if it were on the first focal plane it would remain a constant 0.3 mil (1 MOA) just like an Eotech center dot. </div></div>

Are you sure you are looking at this correctly? The PST dot is 1 MOA relative to target at 4X. It's actually on the small side and difficult for me to see if the target is painted black, but my eyes are pretty old. 4 MOA at 1x works fine at the shorter distances that 1X will generally be used (100 Yds and under for me, anyway).

The 1-6 Razor sounds like a good 3-Gun optic - essentially an ACOG at 6x and a full sized/easy visible reticle at 1x, since it's SFP. </div></div>


Turn the illumination on... </div></div>

I take it you have not used one in bright sun, especially at distance on a dark target.
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

I have, and while it isn't bright, there is still enough of a red color to distinguish it from the background. The brightness is also something they need to address though...
 
Re: New Vortex Razor HD Gen II 1-6x24

For a 3-gun scope I like almost everything about it.

However, it will need a switchview throwlever. I would also prefer black.

I withhold judgement about the reticle until I learn about how it is expected to be used, but so far I don't like it.
 
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