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Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
Yes I saw that but the target is 5 feet yes 5 FEET around. That Kinda takes some of the wow factor out of it for me. Love the show but the long range stuff has had super large reactive targets everytime
Yes I saw that but the target is 5 feet yes 5 FEET around. That Kinda takes some of the wow factor out of it for me. Love the show but the long range stuff has had super large reactive targets everytime
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A 5ft target? really????? Even at that range I think it's something that we could hit with our LR pistols given a few sighters. They did the same thing at that 3ft target at 1000 yards they shot a couple seasons ago with the 50BMG. Still don't know why they allowed all the shooters to watch and get a lot of info from each previous shooter. Sure did make it easier for competitors later in the pack. Guess it's exciting for the viewers but not very challenging for regular LR shooters.
Nice seeing that they brought back Kelly whom I loved seeing knock out so many competitors in Season 1 but could really do without watching George be brought in as a "PRO" to help.
Always enjoy seeing others making the long shots and they do have a lot of very interesting setups for the shooters. Still haven't seen anyone yet that stands out like last season but will enjoy seeing them take shots at that far target.
Topstrap
A 5ft target? really????? Even at that range I think it's something that we could hit with our LR pistols given a few sighters. They did the same thing at that 3ft target at 1000 yards they shot a couple seasons ago with the 50BMG. Still don't know why they allowed all the shooters to watch and get a lot of info from each previous shooter. Sure did make it easier for competitors later in the pack. Guess it's exciting for the viewers but not very challenging for regular LR shooters.
Nice seeing that they brought back Kelly whom I loved seeing knock out so many competitors in Season 1 but could really do without watching George be brought in as a "PRO" to help.
Always enjoy seeing others making the long shots and they do have a lot of very interesting setups for the shooters. Still haven't seen anyone yet that stands out like last season but will enjoy seeing them take shots at that far target.
Topstrap
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atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.
atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.
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This is the stupidest show yet. Survivor w a gun!!
This is the stupidest show yet. Survivor w a gun!!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A 5ft target? really????? Even at that range I think it's something that we could hit with our LR pistols given a few sighters. They did the same thing at that 3ft target at 1000 yards they shot a couple seasons ago with the 50BMG. Still don't know why they allowed all the shooters to watch and get a lot of info from each previous shooter. Sure did make it easier for competitors later in the pack. Guess it's exciting for the viewers but not very challenging for regular LR shooters.
Nice seeing that they brought back Kelly whom I loved seeing knock out so many competitors in Season 1 but could really do without watching George be brought in as a "PRO" to help.
Always enjoy seeing others making the long shots and they do have a lot of very interesting setups for the shooters. Still haven't seen anyone yet that stands out like last season but will enjoy seeing them take shots at that far target.
Topstrap </div></div>
Sad part is I had what corrections I would have done figured out in my head by the 2nd shooter. It took like 4 or 5 of them shooting before the rest caught on. Keep in mind, some of these competitors may never have shot past 100 yards, if that, or had much dealings with a rifle. As much as I love to shoot, my time on a shotgun is limited to twice a year quals and what I was taught in the academy. Damn, I wanna shotgun now. Of coarse the pistol events will have IPSC and LEOs do well, the hunters do well in the archery and shotgun events and military guys seem to do well in rifles. It makes sense. Take a guy who has been doing bechrest only for 20 years, give him a pistol and some movers, and you will see pistol guys throwing stuff at their TVs.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A 5ft target? really????? Even at that range I think it's something that we could hit with our LR pistols given a few sighters. They did the same thing at that 3ft target at 1000 yards they shot a couple seasons ago with the 50BMG. Still don't know why they allowed all the shooters to watch and get a lot of info from each previous shooter. Sure did make it easier for competitors later in the pack. Guess it's exciting for the viewers but not very challenging for regular LR shooters.
Nice seeing that they brought back Kelly whom I loved seeing knock out so many competitors in Season 1 but could really do without watching George be brought in as a "PRO" to help.
Always enjoy seeing others making the long shots and they do have a lot of very interesting setups for the shooters. Still haven't seen anyone yet that stands out like last season but will enjoy seeing them take shots at that far target.
Topstrap </div></div>
Sad part is I had what corrections I would have done figured out in my head by the 2nd shooter. It took like 4 or 5 of them shooting before the rest caught on. Keep in mind, some of these competitors may never have shot past 100 yards, if that, or had much dealings with a rifle. As much as I love to shoot, my time on a shotgun is limited to twice a year quals and what I was taught in the academy. Damn, I wanna shotgun now. Of coarse the pistol events will have IPSC and LEOs do well, the hunters do well in the archery and shotgun events and military guys seem to do well in rifles. It makes sense. Take a guy who has been doing bechrest only for 20 years, give him a pistol and some movers, and you will see pistol guys throwing stuff at their TVs.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpspeeddemon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.</div></div>
I have never understood all the comments like this about the show. It says at the beginning it is a show about "marksmanship with any weapon". It is not exclusively about guns. Personally I enjoy the primitive weapons as much as the guns, especially the atl-atl earlier this year.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpspeeddemon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.</div></div>
I have never understood all the comments like this about the show. It says at the beginning it is a show about "marksmanship with any weapon". It is not exclusively about guns. Personally I enjoy the primitive weapons as much as the guns, especially the atl-atl earlier this year.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: predatornut</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpspeeddemon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.</div></div>
I have never understood all the comments like this about the show. It says at the beginning it is a show about "marksmanship with any weapon". It is not exclusively about guns. Personally I enjoy the primitive weapons as much as the guns, especially the atl-atl earlier this year. </div></div>
I agree ^.
Tonight's "Long Range" challenge is a BIG target but it will suck to watch because george will be back on it!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: predatornut</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpspeeddemon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.</div></div>
I have never understood all the comments like this about the show. It says at the beginning it is a show about "marksmanship with any weapon". It is not exclusively about guns. Personally I enjoy the primitive weapons as much as the guns, especially the atl-atl earlier this year. </div></div>
I agree ^.
Tonight's "Long Range" challenge is a BIG target but it will suck to watch because george will be back on it!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: predatornut</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpspeeddemon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.</div></div>
I have never understood all the comments like this about the show. It says at the beginning it is a show about "marksmanship with any weapon". It is not exclusively about guns. Personally I enjoy the primitive weapons as much as the guns, especially the atl-atl earlier this year. </div></div>
To me, its top shot. You can't shoot a rock or shoot a hatchet. Its just my preference, i'm just not interested in watching guys throwing hatchets.
I do eagerly await tonight's long range episode.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: predatornut</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jpspeeddemon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">atleast they're not throwing rocks or hatchets or something stupid like that.</div></div>
I have never understood all the comments like this about the show. It says at the beginning it is a show about "marksmanship with any weapon". It is not exclusively about guns. Personally I enjoy the primitive weapons as much as the guns, especially the atl-atl earlier this year. </div></div>
To me, its top shot. You can't shoot a rock or shoot a hatchet. Its just my preference, i'm just not interested in watching guys throwing hatchets.
I do eagerly await tonight's long range episode.
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I'm excited to watch it, weather or not it'll be difficult for the competitors we will see. I definatly enjoy shooting ones much better then the primitive weapons but that's part of the challenge, you have to be able to adapt to throwing sticks and stones to shooting a AI Ax 338.
I'm excited to watch it, weather or not it'll be difficult for the competitors we will see. I definatly enjoy shooting ones much better then the primitive weapons but that's part of the challenge, you have to be able to adapt to throwing sticks and stones to shooting a AI Ax 338.
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I need to catch up on last week's episode to see if that frisky little slice of hot pepper jelly is still around. If she's gone, I'm not really interested, although this season has been the best thus far.
I need to catch up on last week's episode to see if that frisky little slice of hot pepper jelly is still around. If she's gone, I'm not really interested, although this season has been the best thus far.
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The cute one is gone...
The cute one is gone...
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The show was always advertised as using several weapons, and systems. I kind alike the fact they take these people and get them out of their comfort zones. I just wish it wasnt a popularity contest...
Bill
The show was always advertised as using several weapons, and systems. I kind alike the fact they take these people and get them out of their comfort zones. I just wish it wasnt a popularity contest...
Bill
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bass Ackwardz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The show was always advertised as using several weapons, and systems. I kind alike the fact they take these people and get them out of their comfort zones. I just wish it wasnt a popularity contest...
Bill </div></div>
You got a problem with my bandana?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bass Ackwardz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The show was always advertised as using several weapons, and systems. I kind alike the fact they take these people and get them out of their comfort zones. I just wish it wasnt a popularity contest...
Bill </div></div>
You got a problem with my bandana?
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I always thought it would be interesting if they had the two groups battle against a third "home team" of shooters who are actually qualified in their particular subject just so it was clear exactly how much they all suck at any given task.
I always thought it would be interesting if they had the two groups battle against a third "home team" of shooters who are actually qualified in their particular subject just so it was clear exactly how much they all suck at any given task.
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i like the show a lot.
but throwing rocks and hatches, give me a break. i know it is all about hand/eye coordination, and i can't hit the broad side a barn with a baseball. put a rifle, hockey stick or bow in my hands, and i do fairly well.
case in point, john and i have been friends for 28 years. i am 32, he is 30. i was a standout ice hockey player, he was ok at best. i was ripped and athletic at 5-10 180lbs, he was a skinny twig at 5-8 130lbs. but that M-Fer could throw a ball like no other. football, baseball, rocks, etc.
put a rifle in his hands, he was junk. not too good with a bow either. he was a good passer at hockey, but had no accuracy with a slap shot, wrist shot, back hand, snap shot, one timer, etc.
i guess to make a long story even longer, if the first challenge was throwing shit, i'm out. but then he can continue because he won throwing rocks, then he'd be out when it came to marksmanship, pistol, rifle, bow.
i do like the fact about mixing it up with the different variations of pistols, rifles, bows.
i don't like the popularity contest though. that big due, littlejohn or whatever his name is, "i'm not going to vote for any of my friends, have a bandana". give me a break.
i like the show a lot.
but throwing rocks and hatches, give me a break. i know it is all about hand/eye coordination, and i can't hit the broad side a barn with a baseball. put a rifle, hockey stick or bow in my hands, and i do fairly well.
case in point, john and i have been friends for 28 years. i am 32, he is 30. i was a standout ice hockey player, he was ok at best. i was ripped and athletic at 5-10 180lbs, he was a skinny twig at 5-8 130lbs. but that M-Fer could throw a ball like no other. football, baseball, rocks, etc.
put a rifle in his hands, he was junk. not too good with a bow either. he was a good passer at hockey, but had no accuracy with a slap shot, wrist shot, back hand, snap shot, one timer, etc.
i guess to make a long story even longer, if the first challenge was throwing shit, i'm out. but then he can continue because he won throwing rocks, then he'd be out when it came to marksmanship, pistol, rifle, bow.
i do like the fact about mixing it up with the different variations of pistols, rifles, bows.
i don't like the popularity contest though. that big due, littlejohn or whatever his name is, "i'm not going to vote for any of my friends, have a bandana". give me a break.
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What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.
What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.
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This is the only post I read ^ but I agree with it. I kinda thought he was a dick right up until then though.
This is the only post I read ^ but I agree with it. I kinda thought he was a dick right up until then though.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clayne_b</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cute one is gone... </div></div>
X2 .... Michelle was definately a cuttie!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clayne_b</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cute one is gone... </div></div>
X2 .... Michelle was definately a cuttie!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice seeing that they brought back Kelly whom I loved seeing knock out so many competitors in Season 1 but could really do without watching George be brought in as a "PRO" to help.
Topstrap </div></div>
Like him or not, he does have the credentials:
Air Force Sniper School instructor
Certified military, civilian and SWAT instructor
Heavy weapons combat instructor
2006 Air Mobility Command Rodeo sniper Champion team
Coach of the 2009 Air Mobility Command Rodeo Sniper Champion team
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Topstrap</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice seeing that they brought back Kelly whom I loved seeing knock out so many competitors in Season 1 but could really do without watching George be brought in as a "PRO" to help.
Topstrap </div></div>
Like him or not, he does have the credentials:
Air Force Sniper School instructor
Certified military, civilian and SWAT instructor
Heavy weapons combat instructor
2006 Air Mobility Command Rodeo sniper Champion team
Coach of the 2009 Air Mobility Command Rodeo Sniper Champion team
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Watching now if I heard correctly, the actual target is only 30" in diameter, not 5 ft. Gotta say I was impressed with the little woman putting 3" groups on steel at 750.
This is going to make me very impatient waiting for my 338 components to come in.
Watching now if I heard correctly, the actual target is only 30" in diameter, not 5 ft. Gotta say I was impressed with the little woman putting 3" groups on steel at 750.
This is going to make me very impatient waiting for my 338 components to come in.
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I like how one guy states " I shoot in competition at 1000 yards with iron sights" then comes in last 3 out of seven shooting behind a NF
I like how one guy states " I shoot in competition at 1000 yards with iron sights" then comes in last 3 out of seven shooting behind a NF
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I watched the opening episode, and this one for the AI porn. I wouldnt kick the chick out of bed either. I watched the 1st and second season. My brother-in laws friend was in the 3rd season and made it pretty far before he got eliminated. Lost interest with the drama in that season. Kind of killed it for me.
I watched the opening episode, and this one for the AI porn. I wouldnt kick the chick out of bed either. I watched the 1st and second season. My brother-in laws friend was in the 3rd season and made it pretty far before he got eliminated. Lost interest with the drama in that season. Kind of killed it for me.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clayne_b</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cute one is gone... </div></div>Yeah, Michele was nice. But I'd still make a taco out of Miss Venezuela.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: clayne_b</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The cute one is gone... </div></div>Yeah, Michele was nice. But I'd still make a taco out of Miss Venezuela.
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It has it's good days and it's bad.
It has it's good days and it's bad.
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What amazed me was that none of them could use the retical to adjust for the second round. First round hit at 1500 is optimistic to say the least for a rifle system you have little to no experiance with. But after the first round tells you what is happening down range it shouldn't be more than one or 2 more shots to hold and hit.
What amazed me was that none of them could use the retical to adjust for the second round. First round hit at 1500 is optimistic to say the least for a rifle system you have little to no experiance with. But after the first round tells you what is happening down range it shouldn't be more than one or 2 more shots to hold and hit.
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It seemed to me that it was just who got lucky and hit the thing the fastest. The scope must have been dialed in already (nobody touched the scope), so every one of them just started sending rounds downrange till they got a hit...
It seemed to me that it was just who got lucky and hit the thing the fastest. The scope must have been dialed in already (nobody touched the scope), so every one of them just started sending rounds downrange till they got a hit...
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BapZander</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The scope must have been dialed in already (nobody touched the scope), so every one of them just started sending rounds downrange till they got a hit... </div></div>
I noticed that on the practice rounds at 750. Then at the 1500 range when no one else could watch what the shooter was doing. But hey, it's TV reality shows at their best.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BapZander</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The scope must have been dialed in already (nobody touched the scope), so every one of them just started sending rounds downrange till they got a hit... </div></div>
I noticed that on the practice rounds at 750. Then at the 1500 range when no one else could watch what the shooter was doing. But hey, it's TV reality shows at their best.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds</div></div>
Then mark me down as nuttier than squirrel turds as well. George clearly threw his shot in the prior season. After excellent performance all season, you are going to tell me that he accidentally pushes a shot so bad that its not even in the relative space of the target? I'm thinking no.
He was a pompous asshole to that point, but when he did that, my respect for him grew a good bit. I have no doubt that he is still full of himself, but he demonstrated he has compassion at some level as well.
Anyway, people in this thread are talking about a 5 foot target. Maybe I missed something but on the show last night, they were talking about a 30 inch target, which is roughly 2 MOA at 1500 yards, correct?
For people unaccustomed to regularly shooting XLR, hitting a 2 MOA target at 1500 yards in 3 shots seems like reasonably good performance to me.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds</div></div>
Then mark me down as nuttier than squirrel turds as well. George clearly threw his shot in the prior season. After excellent performance all season, you are going to tell me that he accidentally pushes a shot so bad that its not even in the relative space of the target? I'm thinking no.
He was a pompous asshole to that point, but when he did that, my respect for him grew a good bit. I have no doubt that he is still full of himself, but he demonstrated he has compassion at some level as well.
Anyway, people in this thread are talking about a 5 foot target. Maybe I missed something but on the show last night, they were talking about a 30 inch target, which is roughly 2 MOA at 1500 yards, correct?
For people unaccustomed to regularly shooting XLR, hitting a 2 MOA target at 1500 yards in 3 shots seems like reasonably good performance to me.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I saw that but the target is 5 feet yes 5 FEET around. That Kinda takes some of the wow factor out of it for me. Love the show but the long range stuff has had super large reactive targets everytime </div></div>No it wasn't. The bull, the part that they had to hit, was 30" in diameter. The whole target board was maybe five feet. Colby stated that the bull part of the target was 30".
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I saw that but the target is 5 feet yes 5 FEET around. That Kinda takes some of the wow factor out of it for me. Love the show but the long range stuff has had super large reactive targets everytime </div></div>No it wasn't. The bull, the part that they had to hit, was 30" in diameter. The whole target board was maybe five feet. Colby stated that the bull part of the target was 30".
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Oddball-Six</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
For people unaccustomed to regularly shooting XLR, hitting a 2 MOA target at 1500 yards in 3 shots seems like reasonably good performance to me. </div></div>
The keyboard snipers would say that's a super easy target to hit. And the truth is that most of them have never shot over 100 yards. They live in a fantasy world of "hey I shoot 1/2" groups all day long at 100, so I can shoot 1/2 MOA at any distance.
Watching the show, the distances they were shooting at did not look like 750 and 1500 yards. Am I the only one to notice this? I shoot at 600 on a pretty regular basis and our target doesn't look even close to that big. Even a 1.5 MOA target is hard to see with the naked eye at 600 yards.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Oddball-Six</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
For people unaccustomed to regularly shooting XLR, hitting a 2 MOA target at 1500 yards in 3 shots seems like reasonably good performance to me. </div></div>
The keyboard snipers would say that's a super easy target to hit. And the truth is that most of them have never shot over 100 yards. They live in a fantasy world of "hey I shoot 1/2" groups all day long at 100, so I can shoot 1/2 MOA at any distance.
Watching the show, the distances they were shooting at did not look like 750 and 1500 yards. Am I the only one to notice this? I shoot at 600 on a pretty regular basis and our target doesn't look even close to that big. Even a 1.5 MOA target is hard to see with the naked eye at 600 yards.
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Telephoto lenses . . . spatial compression. It's an optical illusion which cannot be mimicked by the human eye.
Telephoto lenses . . . spatial compression. It's an optical illusion which cannot be mimicked by the human eye.
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can't imagine that they would shoot at distances less than advertised on the program. That would be an open door for some backlash on the series if revealed.
Could it be an optical illusion as the targets on the show are being viewed through the lens of a TV camera and not by ones naked eye?
Doh! Killer beat me to it.
can't imagine that they would shoot at distances less than advertised on the program. That would be an open door for some backlash on the series if revealed.
Could it be an optical illusion as the targets on the show are being viewed through the lens of a TV camera and not by ones naked eye?
Doh! Killer beat me to it.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The keyboard snipers would say that's a super easy target to hit. And the truth is that most of them have never shot over 100 yards. They live in a fantasy world of "hey I shoot 1/2" groups all day long at 100, so I can shoot 1/2 MOA at any distance.</div></div>
I agree with that 100%. I've shot a heck of a lot of 1000 yard matches. The X-10 ring is 20 inches across. Yet I've seen few cleaned 1000 yard targets.
I think about that every time I see the itty bitty groups posted on the internet.
How come these guys are not in the winner's circle at Camp Perry.
Having said that, Look at the cover of the Creedmoor Sports. Catalog. There is a picture of Carl Bernosky, the 2011 National High Power Champion, standing next to his 200-15X 200 yard off hand target. Meaning shooting on his hind legs.
That's hard holding in any body's book.
http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/home.php
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The keyboard snipers would say that's a super easy target to hit. And the truth is that most of them have never shot over 100 yards. They live in a fantasy world of "hey I shoot 1/2" groups all day long at 100, so I can shoot 1/2 MOA at any distance.</div></div>
I agree with that 100%. I've shot a heck of a lot of 1000 yard matches. The X-10 ring is 20 inches across. Yet I've seen few cleaned 1000 yard targets.
I think about that every time I see the itty bitty groups posted on the internet.
How come these guys are not in the winner's circle at Camp Perry.
Having said that, Look at the cover of the Creedmoor Sports. Catalog. There is a picture of Carl Bernosky, the 2011 National High Power Champion, standing next to his 200-15X 200 yard off hand target. Meaning shooting on his hind legs.
That's hard holding in any body's book.
http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/home.php
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
It kinda threw me off since they were showing the shooters and target in the same pic. But once they started shooting you can tell it was serious distance they were shooting since the bullet took a while to impact the dirt or target.
It kinda threw me off since they were showing the shooters and target in the same pic. But once they started shooting you can tell it was serious distance they were shooting since the bullet took a while to impact the dirt or target.
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I really dont see why they would lie about the distance. Some of them got real close in a shot or two but you could tell the wind was blowing which could screw with anyone.
As far as George goes, he was a douche to the ones who were not in his little circle of friends. It doesn't take a good person to give your friend a fighting chance, (to me it looked like he threw the first miss on purpose but not the second) but how you treat the ones you don't like so much speaks much more about your character.
I really dont see why they would lie about the distance. Some of them got real close in a shot or two but you could tell the wind was blowing which could screw with anyone.
As far as George goes, he was a douche to the ones who were not in his little circle of friends. It doesn't take a good person to give your friend a fighting chance, (to me it looked like he threw the first miss on purpose but not the second) but how you treat the ones you don't like so much speaks much more about your character.
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I wonder how many people are going to buy an AI AX in 338 after watching this show thinking they are gonna be long range snipers??
I wonder how many people are going to buy an AI AX in 338 after watching this show thinking they are gonna be long range snipers??
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds </div></div>
RIGHT.... I dont have to believe I saw it for myself, dont talk shit unless you actually saw the episode and can back up your opinion. but I like your avatar pic is that the vjj you get on a regular basis? Nice taste you freak
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds </div></div>
RIGHT.... I dont have to believe I saw it for myself, dont talk shit unless you actually saw the episode and can back up your opinion. but I like your avatar pic is that the vjj you get on a regular basis? Nice taste you freak
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
there is clearly a lot that they don't show, even the quickest hit was 3 shots and that took the guy close to 40 seconds if i remember correctly.
and some people sending shots down range for 2 minutes.
Clearly there was dope added to the scope from the start and they just used hold over ect... for quick adjustments to their shots which is fine, and the quickest way but...
To me this is also the easiest thing to do when misses don't matter. Take a crack, watch for splash and make a quick guess and pull the trigger again. Sooner or later you are going to guess right.
Now dialing in your own dope from the start just based on what you can determine with what you have at hand in an attempt to make a well placed 1st shot, and if a miss adjusting that dope based on what you see to make a second round hit is a completely different story.
I can make kentucky windage hits all day long if the splash is good. but to dial all that in from the start... not so much
Most the the competitors have little to no rifle experience especially long range, and the fact that most of them made it look easy says something.
If you remember from the first season, 1st episode when they had to shoot .308 out to 300 yrds but had to dial their own dope, or hold over, the one guy couldn't even hit the target, and kelly won on his second shot at 300yrds
they had to make this challenge easier for them. you don't hear the guy calling their misses ect... made for TV enough said.
there is clearly a lot that they don't show, even the quickest hit was 3 shots and that took the guy close to 40 seconds if i remember correctly.
and some people sending shots down range for 2 minutes.
Clearly there was dope added to the scope from the start and they just used hold over ect... for quick adjustments to their shots which is fine, and the quickest way but...
To me this is also the easiest thing to do when misses don't matter. Take a crack, watch for splash and make a quick guess and pull the trigger again. Sooner or later you are going to guess right.
Now dialing in your own dope from the start just based on what you can determine with what you have at hand in an attempt to make a well placed 1st shot, and if a miss adjusting that dope based on what you see to make a second round hit is a completely different story.
I can make kentucky windage hits all day long if the splash is good. but to dial all that in from the start... not so much
Most the the competitors have little to no rifle experience especially long range, and the fact that most of them made it look easy says something.
If you remember from the first season, 1st episode when they had to shoot .308 out to 300 yrds but had to dial their own dope, or hold over, the one guy couldn't even hit the target, and kelly won on his second shot at 300yrds
they had to make this challenge easier for them. you don't hear the guy calling their misses ect... made for TV enough said.
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
Boatloads...
Boatloads...
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many people are going to buy an AI AX in 338 after watching this show thinking they are gonna be long range snipers?? </div></div>
Not many that set up with the NF scope is way outta many peoples price range but it is a heck of a set up Ill say that, it is quality product
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: attherange</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder how many people are going to buy an AI AX in 338 after watching this show thinking they are gonna be long range snipers?? </div></div>
Not many that set up with the NF scope is way outta many peoples price range but it is a heck of a set up Ill say that, it is quality product
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds </div></div>
RIGHT.... I dont have to believe I saw it for myself, dont talk shit unless you actually saw the episode and can back up your opinion. but I like your avatar pic is that the vjj you get on a regular basis? Nice taste you freak</div></div>
you saw it for yourself...on a reality television show, CLASSIC! no need to get all butthurt, you have your opinion on the shitbag, and I have mine. I'll be sure to slap George on the back if i ever meet him, i'm telling you this so your aware cause a slap on the back could get dangerous for you with his cock down your throat and all
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: woodspider</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's all the George hating? That guy earned my respect when He intentionally threw his shots and lost just to advance the poor country boy who needed cash trying to save his house and kids. George threw his shot no doubt about it to help that guy advance and that guy won it all and the cash to save his home. George looks cocky but when it came down to it he did something honorable and didn't seek credit for it in fact he denies he threw the shot but anyone watching that season knows the truth. That dude is good people, you haters ought to think about that.</div></div>
if you believe that you're nuttier than squirrel turds </div></div>
RIGHT.... I dont have to believe I saw it for myself, dont talk shit unless you actually saw the episode and can back up your opinion. but I like your avatar pic is that the vjj you get on a regular basis? Nice taste you freak</div></div>
you saw it for yourself...on a reality television show, CLASSIC! no need to get all butthurt, you have your opinion on the shitbag, and I have mine. I'll be sure to slap George on the back if i ever meet him, i'm telling you this so your aware cause a slap on the back could get dangerous for you with his cock down your throat and all
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
Now who is all worked up? you are the one who thinks you know the guy from tv and are hateing cause deep down you are just like the ladies catty lil bitch you are, there is alot of people better looking than u dont get all offended and bitchy relax
Who is gay ?
Taken from your profile
About Me
Occupation: NAMBLA regional director
Nuff said
If you think adult male rape of children is funny your the douche
Now who is all worked up? you are the one who thinks you know the guy from tv and are hateing cause deep down you are just like the ladies catty lil bitch you are, there is alot of people better looking than u dont get all offended and bitchy relax
Who is gay ?
Taken from your profile
About Me
Occupation: NAMBLA regional director
Nuff said
If you think adult male rape of children is funny your the douche
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
LMFAO
LMFAO
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
Nice AI tho
Nice AI tho
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
Actually, the 3rd target on the first series, first show was 600 yards. (I just watched it on NetFlicks)
I agree with the above, they all did pretty well under the circumstances. With the winds as variable as they were, using the correct hold over for the followup shot may still had been a miss if the wind changed at all.
I was surprised Greg got any hits as fast as he was shooting and, IMHO, Chi did the best at thinking it out. Too bad he took out his GF.
I don't know George personally and I can't speak for his character, but I do know he threw at least 1 shot on Season 2 and maybe a second. There was no doubt the guy could shoot.
Actually, the 3rd target on the first series, first show was 600 yards. (I just watched it on NetFlicks)
I agree with the above, they all did pretty well under the circumstances. With the winds as variable as they were, using the correct hold over for the followup shot may still had been a miss if the wind changed at all.
I was surprised Greg got any hits as fast as he was shooting and, IMHO, Chi did the best at thinking it out. Too bad he took out his GF.
I don't know George personally and I can't speak for his character, but I do know he threw at least 1 shot on Season 2 and maybe a second. There was no doubt the guy could shoot.
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
I'm not a sniper in real life and I don't even pretend to be one on the internet. That being said, I think they made it way too easy on them by not having them manipulate the scope themselves.
I'm sure most shooters, given 20 rounds and a scope that's already been dialed in, would hit the target just by walking in the rounds. Would have been much more impressive if the contestants would have had to estimate the range, mil the target and dial in their own dopes.
I watched the season with George, no doubt the guy is good at what he does but he comes across as a douche.
I'm not a sniper in real life and I don't even pretend to be one on the internet. That being said, I think they made it way too easy on them by not having them manipulate the scope themselves.
I'm sure most shooters, given 20 rounds and a scope that's already been dialed in, would hit the target just by walking in the rounds. Would have been much more impressive if the contestants would have had to estimate the range, mil the target and dial in their own dopes.
I watched the season with George, no doubt the guy is good at what he does but he comes across as a douche.
Re: Top Shot on the History Channel
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not a sniper in real life and I don't even pretend to be one on the internet. That being said, I think they made it way too easy on them by not having them manipulate the scope themselves.
I'm sure most shooters, given 20 rounds and a scope that's already been dialed in, would hit the target just by walking in the rounds. Would have been much more impressive if the contestants would have had to estimate the range, mil the target and dial in their own dopes.
I watched the season with George, no doubt the guy is good at what he does but he comes across as a douche. </div></div>That wouldn't really be fair to the Cowboy Action Shooters.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Slapchop</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm not a sniper in real life and I don't even pretend to be one on the internet. That being said, I think they made it way too easy on them by not having them manipulate the scope themselves.
I'm sure most shooters, given 20 rounds and a scope that's already been dialed in, would hit the target just by walking in the rounds. Would have been much more impressive if the contestants would have had to estimate the range, mil the target and dial in their own dopes.
I watched the season with George, no doubt the guy is good at what he does but he comes across as a douche. </div></div>That wouldn't really be fair to the Cowboy Action Shooters.
