Rifle Scopes New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
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Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
Nope, sure would like to see the weight on it though. I had the 3-15x50 and it was ridiculously heavy at 28 oz.
Nope, sure would like to see the weight on it though. I had the 3-15x50 and it was ridiculously heavy at 28 oz.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
I think I saw the specs somewhere else. 22oz and side parallax adj.
I think...
I think I saw the specs somewhere else. 22oz and side parallax adj.
I think...
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
i was looking into this a few days ago,it peaked my interest as a great low mounting solution with a good/useful mag range and features,not the reticle i would prefer though but still seems like great value. i'm thinking glass quality should be good,on par with the higher end weavers.
i doubt anyone has done a review on this yet.
i was looking into this a few days ago,it peaked my interest as a great low mounting solution with a good/useful mag range and features,not the reticle i would prefer though but still seems like great value. i'm thinking glass quality should be good,on par with the higher end weavers.
i doubt anyone has done a review on this yet.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
No reviews because not out yet. If they are out I'll be a guinea pig.
No reviews because not out yet. If they are out I'll be a guinea pig.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
oh baby.....been waiting for these recent Weaver offering for many years!
oh baby.....been waiting for these recent Weaver offering for many years!
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
This looks pretty awesome on paper, but seriously? Standard mil-dot??
This looks pretty awesome on paper, but seriously? Standard mil-dot??
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EqNQFC4GcQ
Doesn't give much information except that the reticle is illuminated, but if its anything like the 3-15x, its gonna be a hit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EqNQFC4GcQ
Doesn't give much information except that the reticle is illuminated, but if its anything like the 3-15x, its gonna be a hit.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
I have the new 2012 Weaver catalog and the reticle is just like the EMDR except the posts are open. It is not a standard mil-dot.
I have the new 2012 Weaver catalog and the reticle is just like the EMDR except the posts are open. It is not a standard mil-dot.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrapperSGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the new 2012 Weaver catalog and the reticle is just like the EMDR except the posts are open. It is not a standard mil-dot. </div></div>
Here's the catalog:
http://outdoorwriters.atk.com/resource_library/catalogs/WeaverCatalog.pdf (big PDF)
It's listed on page 5 but no picture.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrapperSGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the new 2012 Weaver catalog and the reticle is just like the EMDR except the posts are open. It is not a standard mil-dot. </div></div>
Here's the catalog:
http://outdoorwriters.atk.com/resource_library/catalogs/WeaverCatalog.pdf (big PDF)
It's listed on page 5 but no picture.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nhm16</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrapperSGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the new 2012 Weaver catalog and the reticle is just like the EMDR except the posts are open. It is not a standard mil-dot. </div></div>
Here's the catalog:
http://outdoorwriters.atk.com/resource_library/catalogs/WeaverCatalog.pdf (big PDF)
It's listed on page 5 but no picture. </div></div>
The catalog listed MDR (rightmost reticle) as the reticle for 2-10x36, but didn't say anything about the weight...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nhm16</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TrapperSGD</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have the new 2012 Weaver catalog and the reticle is just like the EMDR except the posts are open. It is not a standard mil-dot. </div></div>
Here's the catalog:
http://outdoorwriters.atk.com/resource_library/catalogs/WeaverCatalog.pdf (big PDF)
It's listed on page 5 but no picture. </div></div>
The catalog listed MDR (rightmost reticle) as the reticle for 2-10x36, but didn't say anything about the weight...
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RFutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So since this is in the 2012 catalog, does this mean its not a SWFA exclusive? </div></div>
BHphotovideo also carry "Weaver 800368"
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RFutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So since this is in the 2012 catalog, does this mean its not a SWFA exclusive? </div></div>
BHphotovideo also carry "Weaver 800368"
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
there seems to be some confusion with the reticle on this one. i thought it was a regular mildot,it's not. weaver calls the reticle on the tactical 3-15x50 EMDR(enhanced mildot ranging) and they call the one in the 2-10x36 MDR(extreme mildot ranging,according to their catalog). they seems to be exactly the same except the MDR has the outer 4 post open-centered. unfortunately,when you zoom up their pictures in the catalog,the MDR is out of focus and you can't tell exactly how it looks. however,it's possible that weaver had the EMDR(solid outer post) on older(actually,they're all still new scopes on the market) 3-15x50 and that the newer 3-15x50 coming out may have the MDR(open outer post),which i think,but can't confirm,is the reticle in the 2-10x36. i'm guessing this because of this thread: weaver tactical 3-15x50 emdr review
not very good pictures but you can see what i mean. if this is the reticle the 2-10x36 has,then i like it. why are there only 2 places selling this scope? they are also causing confusion with names and reticles. come on weaver,roll the damn ball!
does anyone here have an early 3-15x50 tactical to confirm the evidence here?
there seems to be some confusion with the reticle on this one. i thought it was a regular mildot,it's not. weaver calls the reticle on the tactical 3-15x50 EMDR(enhanced mildot ranging) and they call the one in the 2-10x36 MDR(extreme mildot ranging,according to their catalog). they seems to be exactly the same except the MDR has the outer 4 post open-centered. unfortunately,when you zoom up their pictures in the catalog,the MDR is out of focus and you can't tell exactly how it looks. however,it's possible that weaver had the EMDR(solid outer post) on older(actually,they're all still new scopes on the market) 3-15x50 and that the newer 3-15x50 coming out may have the MDR(open outer post),which i think,but can't confirm,is the reticle in the 2-10x36. i'm guessing this because of this thread: weaver tactical 3-15x50 emdr review
not very good pictures but you can see what i mean. if this is the reticle the 2-10x36 has,then i like it. why are there only 2 places selling this scope? they are also causing confusion with names and reticles. come on weaver,roll the damn ball!
does anyone here have an early 3-15x50 tactical to confirm the evidence here?
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Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
Hopefully I can shed a little light on the reticle in the Weaver Tactical 2-10x optic. Disclaimer: I am an engineer in the Accessories group with ATK (i.e. Weaver, Blackhawk!, Champion, etc.).
Features of the MDR reticle:
· As mentioned,the posts will have an open center design
· There will be solid dots demarking the 1 MIL holdoff points for elevation and windation
· Between the dots, the dashes have been changed to a bow-tie shape
· There will be an open center for ease of target acquisition
· Only the center portion of the reticle will be illumated (the open posts will not light up)
· The MDR reticle will currently only be fielded in the 2-10X optic
I am trying to get a firm number for the weight of this optic, also. I will update my post as soon as I have solid info.
Also, the EMDR reticle in the 3-15x scope will be updated with the open posts and center-only illumination.
Feel free to ask any more questions about this optic or any other in the ATK Accessories product line.
Thanks.
Hopefully I can shed a little light on the reticle in the Weaver Tactical 2-10x optic. Disclaimer: I am an engineer in the Accessories group with ATK (i.e. Weaver, Blackhawk!, Champion, etc.).
Features of the MDR reticle:
· As mentioned,the posts will have an open center design
· There will be solid dots demarking the 1 MIL holdoff points for elevation and windation
· Between the dots, the dashes have been changed to a bow-tie shape
· There will be an open center for ease of target acquisition
· Only the center portion of the reticle will be illumated (the open posts will not light up)
· The MDR reticle will currently only be fielded in the 2-10X optic
I am trying to get a firm number for the weight of this optic, also. I will update my post as soon as I have solid info.
Also, the EMDR reticle in the 3-15x scope will be updated with the open posts and center-only illumination.
Feel free to ask any more questions about this optic or any other in the ATK Accessories product line.
Thanks.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
Fixed or Adjustable parallax and when will it be available for sale?
Fixed or Adjustable parallax and when will it be available for sale?
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?
question: how long before more vendors carry the 2-10x36 or production volume increases? so far,i've been able to find only 2 and i haven't called to even know if they're actually in stock,which is easy enough,but i'd like to at least possibly get a user/customer review before i get mine(i suppose i could be the first).
i easily see this scope in my posession in the near future if everything else about the tactical line holds true. the other options of similar quality,magnification range,features and small objective bell are all by either top tier brands or mid-level well respected brand but at higher prices that may not truely offer me anything extra i really need to justify the increase in price. i think your tactical line is kicking up some serious dust.
thanks.
thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?
question: how long before more vendors carry the 2-10x36 or production volume increases? so far,i've been able to find only 2 and i haven't called to even know if they're actually in stock,which is easy enough,but i'd like to at least possibly get a user/customer review before i get mine(i suppose i could be the first).
i easily see this scope in my posession in the near future if everything else about the tactical line holds true. the other options of similar quality,magnification range,features and small objective bell are all by either top tier brands or mid-level well respected brand but at higher prices that may not truely offer me anything extra i really need to justify the increase in price. i think your tactical line is kicking up some serious dust.
thanks.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fixed or Adjustable parallax and when will it be available for sale? </div></div>
the 1-5x24 and 2-10x36 do not have side focus parallax adjustment,nor do they really need it actually.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fixed or Adjustable parallax and when will it be available for sale? </div></div>
the 1-5x24 and 2-10x36 do not have side focus parallax adjustment,nor do they really need it actually.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?</div></div>
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I have considered the Weaver 3-15 recently but I just can't get past the reticle design. I am looking to upgrade from a Falcon with their EMD reticle (which I really like) and thought the Weaver would be very similar, until I looked closely at the through the scope pics on here. It just doesn't make sense to me to leave out the half mil hash mark before the first dot.
Otherwise, because of the positive reviews and range reports I've read, I would probably be been looking for one in a couple weeks.
Also, will Weaver ever redesign the 4-20 Tactical for increased elevation travel? It seems like that would be a very popular scope if it had anywhere close to the amount of travel offered in the 3-15. Maybe they could redesign the EMDR to include the hash mark before the first dot just for the 4-20 (with more travel).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?</div></div>
x2
I have considered the Weaver 3-15 recently but I just can't get past the reticle design. I am looking to upgrade from a Falcon with their EMD reticle (which I really like) and thought the Weaver would be very similar, until I looked closely at the through the scope pics on here. It just doesn't make sense to me to leave out the half mil hash mark before the first dot.
Otherwise, because of the positive reviews and range reports I've read, I would probably be been looking for one in a couple weeks.
Also, will Weaver ever redesign the 4-20 Tactical for increased elevation travel? It seems like that would be a very popular scope if it had anywhere close to the amount of travel offered in the 3-15. Maybe they could redesign the EMDR to include the hash mark before the first dot just for the 4-20 (with more travel).
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BC98
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Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?
question: how long before more vendors carry the 2-10x36 or production volume increases? so far,i've been able to find only 2 and i haven't called to even know if they're actually in stock,which is easy enough,but i'd like to at least possibly get a user/customer review before i get mine(i suppose i could be the first).
i easily see this scope in my posession in the near future if everything else about the tactical line holds true. the other options of similar quality,magnification range,features and small objective bell are all by either top tier brands or mid-level well respected brand but at higher prices that may not truely offer me anything extra i really need to justify the increase in price. i think your tactical line is kicking up some serious dust.
thanks. </div></div>
We appreciate the kind words. I would also prefer the open centers on the mil points but will wait and see how they turn out when I get a chance to T&E a sample. Designs are driven by customer feedback so if enough people don't like this setup contact Weaver, things may change.
Withrespect to the center of the reticle, your assumption is correct. It will be similar to the 3-15.
At this point, I an unsure about availability or other vendors. I have that question into the people who make those decisions and will report back once I have solid answers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?
question: how long before more vendors carry the 2-10x36 or production volume increases? so far,i've been able to find only 2 and i haven't called to even know if they're actually in stock,which is easy enough,but i'd like to at least possibly get a user/customer review before i get mine(i suppose i could be the first).
i easily see this scope in my posession in the near future if everything else about the tactical line holds true. the other options of similar quality,magnification range,features and small objective bell are all by either top tier brands or mid-level well respected brand but at higher prices that may not truely offer me anything extra i really need to justify the increase in price. i think your tactical line is kicking up some serious dust.
thanks. </div></div>
We appreciate the kind words. I would also prefer the open centers on the mil points but will wait and see how they turn out when I get a chance to T&E a sample. Designs are driven by customer feedback so if enough people don't like this setup contact Weaver, things may change.
Withrespect to the center of the reticle, your assumption is correct. It will be similar to the 3-15.
At this point, I an unsure about availability or other vendors. I have that question into the people who make those decisions and will report back once I have solid answers.
B
BC98
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Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fixed or Adjustable parallax and when will it be available for sale? </div></div>
the 1-5x24 and 2-10x36 do not have side focus parallax adjustment,nor do they really need it actually. </div></div>
This is the information I have also.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BCP</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fixed or Adjustable parallax and when will it be available for sale? </div></div>
the 1-5x24 and 2-10x36 do not have side focus parallax adjustment,nor do they really need it actually. </div></div>
This is the information I have also.
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BC98
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Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kewes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?</div></div>
x2
I have considered the Weaver 3-15 recently but I just can't get past the reticle design. I am looking to upgrade from a Falcon with their EMD reticle (which I really like) and thought the Weaver would be very similar, until I looked closely at the through the scope pics on here. It just doesn't make sense to me to leave out the half mil hash mark before the first dot.
Otherwise, because of the positive reviews and range reports I've read, I would probably be been looking for one in a couple weeks.
Also, will Weaver ever redesign the 4-20 Tactical for increased elevation travel? It seems like that would be a very popular scope if it had anywhere close to the amount of travel offered in the 3-15. Maybe they could redesign the EMDR to include the hash mark before the first dot just for the 4-20 (with more travel).
</div></div>
At this point I don't believe there are any plans to redesign the 4-20x but I will certainly ask. At the same time, I can ask about the no hashes at the half mil point. I do know that section of the crosshair between the first mil dots and
the center us slightly thinner than the remaining portion. Perhaps the half mil lines were omitted to keep that portion les cluttered?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kewes</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: priler</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> thank you very much for this info BC98. i would have prefered open dots for the 1 mil points but everything else i like very much. i think illuminating the center only and not the outer post is a great idea and should help improve the adjustability finesse overall.
question: when you say "there will be an open center for ease of target acquisition",do you mean exactly like the open center that the EMDR(3-15) reticle has now?</div></div>
x2
I have considered the Weaver 3-15 recently but I just can't get past the reticle design. I am looking to upgrade from a Falcon with their EMD reticle (which I really like) and thought the Weaver would be very similar, until I looked closely at the through the scope pics on here. It just doesn't make sense to me to leave out the half mil hash mark before the first dot.
Otherwise, because of the positive reviews and range reports I've read, I would probably be been looking for one in a couple weeks.
Also, will Weaver ever redesign the 4-20 Tactical for increased elevation travel? It seems like that would be a very popular scope if it had anywhere close to the amount of travel offered in the 3-15. Maybe they could redesign the EMDR to include the hash mark before the first dot just for the 4-20 (with more travel).
</div></div>
At this point I don't believe there are any plans to redesign the 4-20x but I will certainly ask. At the same time, I can ask about the no hashes at the half mil point. I do know that section of the crosshair between the first mil dots and
the center us slightly thinner than the remaining portion. Perhaps the half mil lines were omitted to keep that portion les cluttered?
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
Are these scopes out yet? If so anyone know where to find one?
Are these scopes out yet? If so anyone know where to find one?
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: danoob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are these scopes out yet? If so anyone know where to find one? </div></div>
They're not listed on their website yet, just in the product catalog....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: danoob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are these scopes out yet? If so anyone know where to find one? </div></div>
They're not listed on their website yet, just in the product catalog....
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
Bummer!
Bummer!
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
First I've seen of these. I wish they were SFP though, I'm not a fan of FFP reticles in that magnification range. Most likely either the reticle is going to be too small on 2x or it's going to be too heavy on 10x. I don't mind FFP on a CQB type scope where the reticle almost turns into a dot on the low end but I think SFP would have been a better choice for this one. Ohh well, I guess people like me that don't want a FFP 2/3/3.5-10 can always buy the midway special and save $450.
First I've seen of these. I wish they were SFP though, I'm not a fan of FFP reticles in that magnification range. Most likely either the reticle is going to be too small on 2x or it's going to be too heavy on 10x. I don't mind FFP on a CQB type scope where the reticle almost turns into a dot on the low end but I think SFP would have been a better choice for this one. Ohh well, I guess people like me that don't want a FFP 2/3/3.5-10 can always buy the midway special and save $450.
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
Looks like these may be appearing at retailers now. Saw a couple on ebay with the correct item number (800368) . . .
Looks like these may be appearing at retailers now. Saw a couple on ebay with the correct item number (800368) . . .
Re: New Weaver Tactical Scopes 2-10x36
The Weaver tactical line has such potential. I like the 3-15 line but would like to see a lower cost version without the illumination and the locking turrets. I have two of the 3-10 midway weavers and on standard mounts I have 10.2 mils up on my 18" 223 wylde. Doesn't get much better for a 1 inch tube.
Keep them coming.
The Weaver tactical line has such potential. I like the 3-15 line but would like to see a lower cost version without the illumination and the locking turrets. I have two of the 3-10 midway weavers and on standard mounts I have 10.2 mils up on my 18" 223 wylde. Doesn't get much better for a 1 inch tube.
Keep them coming.
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