I'm putting together a .308 budget rig with a Howa action, B&C stock yada yada. Rifle costs about $900 and the Vortex HS scope i'll eventually have on there is about $400 (Midway special). I'll only be target shooting with it and will be in a padded hard case when not at the range (no hunting). Will I really need the awesomeness of the Seekins rings over say a set of Burris XTR rings? I know Seekins are the cat's meow and I like the good stuff but are they worth twice the price?
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Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Yes.
Yes.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes.</div></div>
How did I know i'd get an answer like that.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: C23</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes.</div></div>
How did I know i'd get an answer like that.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I don't have the know how to know if my rings will have good contact with my scope. I'm pretty sure if I mount any kind of rings, that the scope probably won't shift and if they do that's probably the only way I know if they are good or not.
I don't have the know how to know if my rings will have good contact with my scope. I'm pretty sure if I mount any kind of rings, that the scope probably won't shift and if they do that's probably the only way I know if they are good or not.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doctawho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't have the know how to know if my rings will have good contact with my scope. </div></div>
And with the Seekins you won't have to wonder.
It's up to you how much you want to spend but if I had to make the choice it's an easy one for Seekins. Also don't look short sighted. Look down the road when you upgrade your scope you won't have to upgrade the rings.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doctawho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't have the know how to know if my rings will have good contact with my scope. </div></div>
And with the Seekins you won't have to wonder.
It's up to you how much you want to spend but if I had to make the choice it's an easy one for Seekins. Also don't look short sighted. Look down the road when you upgrade your scope you won't have to upgrade the rings.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fw707</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know anything about the Burris rings, but I do know that the Seekins are worth every penny of their cost. </div></div>
Same here - Seekins rings are top shelf!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fw707</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know anything about the Burris rings, but I do know that the Seekins are worth every penny of their cost. </div></div>
Same here - Seekins rings are top shelf!!
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Looks like Seekins measure from base to center of scope while Burris measures from base to bottom of scope. I find higher rings more comfortable so am using Burris 3/4" height rings (high) on my TRG. I had Burris mediums (1/2") and my Vortex objective was about 1/4" above the bbl, so mediums obviously worked fine. Yet compared to Seekins, the Burris rings seem like they are really high. The 1/2" Burris (medium) equates to 1.1" for Seekins (assuming a 30mm scope). Seekins High is 0.97" while their AR High is 1.45". So seems that Seekins High, Medium and Low are all lower than the Burris Medium, and the Burris High is only a tad lower than the Seekins AR High. What am I missing?
Looks like Seekins measure from base to center of scope while Burris measures from base to bottom of scope. I find higher rings more comfortable so am using Burris 3/4" height rings (high) on my TRG. I had Burris mediums (1/2") and my Vortex objective was about 1/4" above the bbl, so mediums obviously worked fine. Yet compared to Seekins, the Burris rings seem like they are really high. The 1/2" Burris (medium) equates to 1.1" for Seekins (assuming a 30mm scope). Seekins High is 0.97" while their AR High is 1.45". So seems that Seekins High, Medium and Low are all lower than the Burris Medium, and the Burris High is only a tad lower than the Seekins AR High. What am I missing?
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I had a set of Burris tactical rings on my rifle. I then won a set of Seekins rings at a compatition so I swapped em out and sold the Burris rings. I could tell the difference. Buy the Burris unless you are worried about your status at the range.
I had a set of Burris tactical rings on my rifle. I then won a set of Seekins rings at a compatition so I swapped em out and sold the Burris rings. I could tell the difference. Buy the Burris unless you are worried about your status at the range.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Ok, so using the Burris rings you won a comp. Sounds like a respectable endorsement!
Ok, so using the Burris rings you won a comp. Sounds like a respectable endorsement!
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself.
The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself. </div></div>
I respectfully disagree with all that.
If you think a v6 Honda anything is as fast as a 750, Burris will probably work just fine, and for exactly the same reasons.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself. </div></div>
I respectfully disagree with all that.
If you think a v6 Honda anything is as fast as a 750, Burris will probably work just fine, and for exactly the same reasons.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself.</div></div>
Have you ever owned Seekins rings? Or a BMW?
Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in able to sleep well at night and feel cool on the internet. As for here, please don't comment unless you have real experience to share. If you feel that all Seekins rings have over Burris is cool factor, then you're either a fool or have never actually held a set in your hands. Either way....you're still a fool.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself.</div></div>
Have you ever owned Seekins rings? Or a BMW?
Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in able to sleep well at night and feel cool on the internet. As for here, please don't comment unless you have real experience to share. If you feel that all Seekins rings have over Burris is cool factor, then you're either a fool or have never actually held a set in your hands. Either way....you're still a fool.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Yes they are.
Yes they are.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I like Seekins rings a lot. But if I was on a budget I would use TPS.
I like Seekins rings a lot. But if I was on a budget I would use TPS.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: littlecalm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, so using the Burris rings you won a comp. Sounds like a respectable endorsement!</div></div>
Actually he said he won a set of rings at a comp. Not won the comp.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: robescc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I then won a set of Seekins rings at a compatition </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in able to sleep well at night and feel cool on the internet. As for here, please don't comment unless you have real experience to share. If you feel that all Seekins rings have over Burris is cool factor, then you're either a fool or have never actually held a set in your hands. Either way....you're still a fool.</div></div>
Well said.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: littlecalm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok, so using the Burris rings you won a comp. Sounds like a respectable endorsement!</div></div>
Actually he said he won a set of rings at a comp. Not won the comp.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: robescc</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I then won a set of Seekins rings at a compatition </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in able to sleep well at night and feel cool on the internet. As for here, please don't comment unless you have real experience to share. If you feel that all Seekins rings have over Burris is cool factor, then you're either a fool or have never actually held a set in your hands. Either way....you're still a fool.</div></div>
Well said.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
My Burris XTR's were very poor quality. Straight out of the unopened package 2 sets of threads were horribly mangled, they were obviously out of alignment on a Badger base, and the finish was chipped and marred.
You get what you pay for.
My Burris XTR's were very poor quality. Straight out of the unopened package 2 sets of threads were horribly mangled, they were obviously out of alignment on a Badger base, and the finish was chipped and marred.
You get what you pay for.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
For the record, I tied for second place. It was my first Tactical comp too. I was pretty surprised when they read the scores.
For the record, I tied for second place. It was my first Tactical comp too. I was pretty surprised when they read the scores.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I have used Burris and Seekins, and they will both hold a scope on your rifle. That being said the Seekins are definitely worth the money, much higher quality. Plus they are made in the USA, and Seekins is a sponsor here.
I have used Burris and Seekins, and they will both hold a scope on your rifle. That being said the Seekins are definitely worth the money, much higher quality. Plus they are made in the USA, and Seekins is a sponsor here.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
One thing I can say about the Seekins is that the machining is very nice and they look great but the Burris still work just as good.
I don't think I would spend the extra on them though unless I found a really good deal.
One thing I can say about the Seekins is that the machining is very nice and they look great but the Burris still work just as good.
I don't think I would spend the extra on them though unless I found a really good deal.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself.</div></div>
Have you ever owned Seekins rings? Or a BMW?
Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in able to sleep well at night and feel cool on the internet. As for here, please don't comment unless you have real experience to share. If you feel that all Seekins rings have over Burris is cool factor, then you're either a fool or have never actually held a set in your hands. Either way....you're still a fool. </div></div>
Yes, I have owned a BMW, and I have owned Gucci Rings that are more expensive than Seekins (NightForce and Leupolds). I consider myself a Beamer guy, and to me if I had extra spending cash, that is the only car I would ever buy.
As for experience, if something works what makes you think Seekins can work better? My Burris Rings hold my scope as well as friends scopes just fine without issues. None of us had issues.
So please tell me how Seekins works better?
As for being cool, I know I am not cool, heck I shoot prone. To be cool on the around here, you have to shoot offhand through tiny ports through dry wall where the target is directly in front of you.
Now this guy here is cool. Here is a tackday I went to, this guy had Ferrari F40 (only 1 of 5 in the country). This is where equipment does help make you cooler.
Forget that the guy with the Audi Wagon was much faster than the F40, he was not as cool as the guy with the F40.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Burris Rings works. Never saw a need for any other rings.
However, if you are in this game long term, might as well get the Louis Vuittan stuff. They are quality for sure, but more importantly they make your gun look cooler. If your gun looks cooler, than you look cooler.
It's like a stock BMW750i vs. Honda Accord V6. Both are probably equally as fast on the race track, and both can get you to work reliably. However with the BMW you look cooler, and you also feel better about yourself.</div></div>
Have you ever owned Seekins rings? Or a BMW?
Keep telling yourself whatever you need to in able to sleep well at night and feel cool on the internet. As for here, please don't comment unless you have real experience to share. If you feel that all Seekins rings have over Burris is cool factor, then you're either a fool or have never actually held a set in your hands. Either way....you're still a fool. </div></div>
Yes, I have owned a BMW, and I have owned Gucci Rings that are more expensive than Seekins (NightForce and Leupolds). I consider myself a Beamer guy, and to me if I had extra spending cash, that is the only car I would ever buy.
As for experience, if something works what makes you think Seekins can work better? My Burris Rings hold my scope as well as friends scopes just fine without issues. None of us had issues.
So please tell me how Seekins works better?
As for being cool, I know I am not cool, heck I shoot prone. To be cool on the around here, you have to shoot offhand through tiny ports through dry wall where the target is directly in front of you.
Now this guy here is cool. Here is a tackday I went to, this guy had Ferrari F40 (only 1 of 5 in the country). This is where equipment does help make you cooler.
Forget that the guy with the Audi Wagon was much faster than the F40, he was not as cool as the guy with the F40.
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BTW, I want to be cool. I am not getting any sleep because I am not as cool as all you operators with the cool gear.
BTW, I want to be cool. I am not getting any sleep because I am not as cool as all you operators with the cool gear.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Can anyone comment on the height differences I described above as between the Burris XTRs and Seekins rings? My scope does not sit that high off the rail using the Burris highs and yet the Seekins rings all seem much lower (other than their AR High).
Can anyone comment on the height differences I described above as between the Burris XTRs and Seekins rings? My scope does not sit that high off the rail using the Burris highs and yet the Seekins rings all seem much lower (other than their AR High).
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I have used both as well as TPS rings. The Seekins had the best fit and finish of all three and are what I now use. The TPS were pretty damn nice, especially for the price. I did find them a bit narrow which means less contact surface, although never had a problem with the scope moving. The XTR's had poor top to bottom fit, poorly bored holes, and needed lapping for good contact. If you are trying to not break the bank, go with the TPS.
I have used both as well as TPS rings. The Seekins had the best fit and finish of all three and are what I now use. The TPS were pretty damn nice, especially for the price. I did find them a bit narrow which means less contact surface, although never had a problem with the scope moving. The XTR's had poor top to bottom fit, poorly bored holes, and needed lapping for good contact. If you are trying to not break the bank, go with the TPS.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
My Burris rings slid on me and I would not trust them again after blowing the reticle out of my scope.
My Burris rings slid on me and I would not trust them again after blowing the reticle out of my scope.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hooker308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My Burris rings slid on me and I would not trust them again after blowing the reticle out of my scope. </div></div>
Reticle was not etched in? Wonder if your cheap scope is to blame?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hooker308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My Burris rings slid on me and I would not trust them again after blowing the reticle out of my scope. </div></div>
Reticle was not etched in? Wonder if your cheap scope is to blame?
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Seekins = Mercedes
Burris = Yugo
Need I say more.
Seriously if you are on a budget look at Vortex rings before Burris.
Seekins = Mercedes
Burris = Yugo
Need I say more.
Seriously if you are on a budget look at Vortex rings before Burris.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Another vote for the TPS (reports?) Rings. Mounted them on a couple different rigs and even with no lapping they did not leave so much as a shiny spot on the scope tube.
I also like the feature that you can tighten down one side all the way, level your reticle and then tighten the other side without screwing up your level.
Another vote for the TPS (reports?) Rings. Mounted them on a couple different rigs and even with no lapping they did not leave so much as a shiny spot on the scope tube.
I also like the feature that you can tighten down one side all the way, level your reticle and then tighten the other side without screwing up your level.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Sorry, reticle was fine but recoil sent erector housing into rear ring and I was no longer able to adjust elevation on my cheap scope. Lesson learned. Now my new Vortex sits in their precision rings made by a reputable company.
Sorry, reticle was fine but recoil sent erector housing into rear ring and I was no longer able to adjust elevation on my cheap scope. Lesson learned. Now my new Vortex sits in their precision rings made by a reputable company.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I have 2 sets of XTRs, they are okay, but just okay. I just got in a set of Seekins Tuesday from SWFA, the quality difference is huge. Yes, they are worth twice the price.
I have 2 sets of XTRs, they are okay, but just okay. I just got in a set of Seekins Tuesday from SWFA, the quality difference is huge. Yes, they are worth twice the price.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doctawho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring,</div></div>
Yes. I own both. Burris XTR rings are complete trash when set next to Seekins rings.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doctawho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm putting together a .308 <span style="font-weight: bold">budget rig</span> with a Howa action, B&C stock yada yada......Will I really need the awesomeness of the Seekins rings over say a set of Burris XTR rings?</div></div>
If you are on a "budget" then you have to make compromises. However even on a budget I would still avoid the Burris rings. TPS TSR rings are soo much nicer. That is why I used them on our "Budget Precision Build". However they are so nice I also used them on my wife's competition rifle which is NOT a budget build. I just didn't want to go top end on everything when I may have had to change stuff out to suit her.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doctawho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring,</div></div>
Yes. I own both. Burris XTR rings are complete trash when set next to Seekins rings.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doctawho</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm putting together a .308 <span style="font-weight: bold">budget rig</span> with a Howa action, B&C stock yada yada......Will I really need the awesomeness of the Seekins rings over say a set of Burris XTR rings?</div></div>
If you are on a "budget" then you have to make compromises. However even on a budget I would still avoid the Burris rings. TPS TSR rings are soo much nicer. That is why I used them on our "Budget Precision Build". However they are so nice I also used them on my wife's competition rifle which is NOT a budget build. I just didn't want to go top end on everything when I may have had to change stuff out to suit her.
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Use caution, the vortex rings with the Nut are NOT the seekins units. Seekins was providing vortex with their rings and Vort. on them.....
Not sure if they still are, but the hex heads tell the tale.
Stick with seekins or one of the other top tier lines.
Use caution, the vortex rings with the Nut are NOT the seekins units. Seekins was providing vortex with their rings and Vort. on them.....
Not sure if they still are, but the hex heads tell the tale.
Stick with seekins or one of the other top tier lines.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wolf22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Use caution, the vortex rings with the Nut are NOT the seekins units. Seekins was providing vortex with their rings and Vort. on them.....
Not sure if they still are, but the hex heads tell the tale.
Stick with seekins or one of the other top tier lines. </div></div>
You have to get the <span style="text-decoration: underline">Vortex precision matched rings</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span> the Tacticals
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wolf22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Use caution, the vortex rings with the Nut are NOT the seekins units. Seekins was providing vortex with their rings and Vort. on them.....
Not sure if they still are, but the hex heads tell the tale.
Stick with seekins or one of the other top tier lines. </div></div>
You have to get the <span style="text-decoration: underline">Vortex precision matched rings</span> <span style="font-weight: bold">NOT</span> the Tacticals
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Quality isn't cheap.
Quality isn't cheap.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
In the end you have to make your own decisions:
1) either follow the cool kids
2) buy it, play with it, and come to your own conclusions.
#1 is much easier! and will make your life much easier, also it's easier to be a cool kid yourself if you go the route of #1.
In the end you have to make your own decisions:
1) either follow the cool kids
2) buy it, play with it, and come to your own conclusions.
#1 is much easier! and will make your life much easier, also it's easier to be a cool kid yourself if you go the route of #1.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I thought they were Seekins, but was afraid to say without knowing. The Vortex precision matched rings are 2 times better in my opinion. Look good on a Vortex scope also. Their level in not anywhere on par with the rings.
I thought they were Seekins, but was afraid to say without knowing. The Vortex precision matched rings are 2 times better in my opinion. Look good on a Vortex scope also. Their level in not anywhere on par with the rings.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I have the Burris XTR's and I like them. That being said, I wish I'd have gone with something of better quality. Lapping them I could see the difference between mine, and my friends Leupold Mark 4 rings. I had to take much more off to get to around 75%.
I have the Burris XTR's and I like them. That being said, I wish I'd have gone with something of better quality. Lapping them I could see the difference between mine, and my friends Leupold Mark 4 rings. I had to take much more off to get to around 75%.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I discovered that I was wrong (shocker). My objective is way high off the bbl. So the Seekins medium high or high would work just fine. I may try the high to see if that is comfortable since I seem to feel better with the scope up a bit.
I discovered that I was wrong (shocker). My objective is way high off the bbl. So the Seekins medium high or high would work just fine. I may try the high to see if that is comfortable since I seem to feel better with the scope up a bit.
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Thanks Ace - forgot to add the precision matched moniker....
Lonewolf is correct as well, TPS is the budget buy - used them with NF NXS
Thanks Ace - forgot to add the precision matched moniker....
Lonewolf is correct as well, TPS is the budget buy - used them with NF NXS
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
I will never own Burris rings on a heavy recoiling rifle again. I had them on my 300 RUM with a Zeiss Conquest scope. The scope slid in the rings every 20 shots. Scratched the shit out of it. I ruined two torx bits tightening the ring cap screws so tight and they'd still let the scope slide. If you lap them, they'd probably be ok. I lapped a set last week for a friend of mine. Before I even started lapping them, I described to him what they'd look like afterwards. There is only 2 contact points on both halves of the rings. They contact the scope about 1/3 of the way down from the split. I lapped them for a solid 30 min before I could get 70% contact.
TPS rings are supposed to be nice for the money. I went with IOR rings on one of my last builds as they were the exact height that I wanted. I'm very pleased with them. They retail for a little under $100.
I will never own Burris rings on a heavy recoiling rifle again. I had them on my 300 RUM with a Zeiss Conquest scope. The scope slid in the rings every 20 shots. Scratched the shit out of it. I ruined two torx bits tightening the ring cap screws so tight and they'd still let the scope slide. If you lap them, they'd probably be ok. I lapped a set last week for a friend of mine. Before I even started lapping them, I described to him what they'd look like afterwards. There is only 2 contact points on both halves of the rings. They contact the scope about 1/3 of the way down from the split. I lapped them for a solid 30 min before I could get 70% contact.
TPS rings are supposed to be nice for the money. I went with IOR rings on one of my last builds as they were the exact height that I wanted. I'm very pleased with them. They retail for a little under $100.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
While I'm waiting for that call from the gunsmiths call "to come pick it up" ,I stuck my 223 in my McRee stock. Then I figure well I'll swap scopes since I had longer range scope on 6.8 AR. And to do that I had to swap the rings out. Now I'm worried after reading all the people with ring marks. Taking thing apart, not a mark on either scope.
So go figure, no bedding, no lapping, or anything else other then hand tightening and making sure the caps pulled down even. And all with Leupold rings. I had never even heard of Seekins previously. But thats not to say that my new Vortex PST will be riding in anythings else.
If your spending $2k plus or minus on a scope, do you want to short change its feet? Theres a very nice person thats been helping me, his advise to me was "The scope is your only link to the target". I think he's pretty smart.
While I'm waiting for that call from the gunsmiths call "to come pick it up" ,I stuck my 223 in my McRee stock. Then I figure well I'll swap scopes since I had longer range scope on 6.8 AR. And to do that I had to swap the rings out. Now I'm worried after reading all the people with ring marks. Taking thing apart, not a mark on either scope.
So go figure, no bedding, no lapping, or anything else other then hand tightening and making sure the caps pulled down even. And all with Leupold rings. I had never even heard of Seekins previously. But thats not to say that my new Vortex PST will be riding in anythings else.
If your spending $2k plus or minus on a scope, do you want to short change its feet? Theres a very nice person thats been helping me, his advise to me was "The scope is your only link to the target". I think he's pretty smart.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brad from ND</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will never own Burris rings on a heavy recoiling rifle again. I had them on my 300 RUM with a Zeiss Conquest scope. The scope slid in the rings every 20 shots. Scratched the shit out of it. I ruined two torx bits tightening the ring cap screws so tight and they'd still let the scope slide. If you lap them, they'd probably be ok. I lapped a set last week for a friend of mine. Before I even started lapping them, I described to him what they'd look like afterwards. There is only 2 contact points on both halves of the rings. They contact the scope about 1/3 of the way down from the split. I lapped them for a solid 30 min before I could get 70% contact.
TPS rings are supposed to be nice for the money. I went with IOR rings on one of my last builds as they were the exact height that I wanted. I'm very pleased with them. They retail for a little under $100. </div></div>
How did you measure the 70% lapping? Did you use the Lyman Lapping Gauge or something?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brad from ND</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will never own Burris rings on a heavy recoiling rifle again. I had them on my 300 RUM with a Zeiss Conquest scope. The scope slid in the rings every 20 shots. Scratched the shit out of it. I ruined two torx bits tightening the ring cap screws so tight and they'd still let the scope slide. If you lap them, they'd probably be ok. I lapped a set last week for a friend of mine. Before I even started lapping them, I described to him what they'd look like afterwards. There is only 2 contact points on both halves of the rings. They contact the scope about 1/3 of the way down from the split. I lapped them for a solid 30 min before I could get 70% contact.
TPS rings are supposed to be nice for the money. I went with IOR rings on one of my last builds as they were the exact height that I wanted. I'm very pleased with them. They retail for a little under $100. </div></div>
How did you measure the 70% lapping? Did you use the Lyman Lapping Gauge or something?
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Millet rings are similar to Burris rings, but cheaper. I have a set of Millet Rings on my Barret 50 cal with a NightForce Scope. Once I locktited and properly torqued the bolts.. no issues whatsover. If a Millet works on a 50, I don't see no reason why they would not work on a wimpy 300 mag.
At the end of the day, the only person that can spend your money is yourself.
Sometimes I am happy that I do not know anyone in the gun industry so I can give an honest assessment. All these "Industry Experts" crack me up!!!!! hahahahahah
Millet rings are similar to Burris rings, but cheaper. I have a set of Millet Rings on my Barret 50 cal with a NightForce Scope. Once I locktited and properly torqued the bolts.. no issues whatsover. If a Millet works on a 50, I don't see no reason why they would not work on a wimpy 300 mag.
At the end of the day, the only person that can spend your money is yourself.
Sometimes I am happy that I do not know anyone in the gun industry so I can give an honest assessment. All these "Industry Experts" crack me up!!!!! hahahahahah
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
Don't get me wrong the XTR rings will work.
However if you have the ability to spend almost the same money on a product that is better finished and makes installation easier, why wouldn't you?
Burris Xtreme Tactcal Rings - $64.99 at Midway
TPS TSR Aluminum Rings - $77.99 at Midway
The difference is less than half a box of bullets. The only drawback is that if you choose the TPS rings you don't get to be Xtreme and use the cool spelling.
Don't get me wrong the XTR rings will work.
However if you have the ability to spend almost the same money on a product that is better finished and makes installation easier, why wouldn't you?
Burris Xtreme Tactcal Rings - $64.99 at Midway
TPS TSR Aluminum Rings - $77.99 at Midway
The difference is less than half a box of bullets. The only drawback is that if you choose the TPS rings you don't get to be Xtreme and use the cool spelling.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 19Scout77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As Cartman has clearly proven, cheap rings are all you need...for rifles that only leave the safe for pictures. </div></div>
Actually they had to come out of the safe to take the pic right? FYI: These rings also passed the "Cartmann low crawl across the living room floor" test. Nothing spontaneously combusted and the sky did not fall during this test.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 19Scout77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As Cartman has clearly proven, cheap rings are all you need...for rifles that only leave the safe for pictures. </div></div>
Actually they had to come out of the safe to take the pic right? FYI: These rings also passed the "Cartmann low crawl across the living room floor" test. Nothing spontaneously combusted and the sky did not fall during this test.
Re: Are Seekins rings twice as good as Burris XTR ring
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Millet rings are similar to Burris rings, but cheaper. I have a set of Millet Rings on my Barret 50 cal with a NightForce Scope. Once I locktited and properly torqued the bolts.. no issues whatsover. If a Millet works on a 50, I don't see no reason why they would not work on a wimpy 300 mag.
At the end of the day, the only person that can spend your money is yourself.
Sometimes I am happy that I do not know anyone in the gun industry so I can give an honest assessment. All these "Industry Experts" crack me up!!!!! hahahahahah
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I see a .50, Mcm stock, AICS stock, and 3 NF scopes. Curious as to why you chose to save 60.00 on xtr rings as opposed to Seekins or other quality ring??? Its like buying a ZL 1 Vette then sticking 25.00 tires from Wally World on it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EricCartmann</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Millet rings are similar to Burris rings, but cheaper. I have a set of Millet Rings on my Barret 50 cal with a NightForce Scope. Once I locktited and properly torqued the bolts.. no issues whatsover. If a Millet works on a 50, I don't see no reason why they would not work on a wimpy 300 mag.
At the end of the day, the only person that can spend your money is yourself.
Sometimes I am happy that I do not know anyone in the gun industry so I can give an honest assessment. All these "Industry Experts" crack me up!!!!! hahahahahah
I see a .50, Mcm stock, AICS stock, and 3 NF scopes. Curious as to why you chose to save 60.00 on xtr rings as opposed to Seekins or other quality ring??? Its like buying a ZL 1 Vette then sticking 25.00 tires from Wally World on it.
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