Is anyone on here or know someone who is an engineer or technician, or know a good way to get in contact with one? I'm giving a presentation for a materials science of alloys class and I was lucky enough to get cartridge brass, and would like to pick another engineer's or technician's brain about the manufacture of casings alone: special drawing techniques, ways to maintain concentricity and lateral consistency round to round, metallurgy, anything really. Not asking anyone to give up any trade secrets, would just like to get some first-hand information, and thought this might be a cool idea. I was going to email Hornady to see if anyone over there might be receptive but only have time to post this for now. As a bonus, I'm going to be taking a scanning electron microscope of the edge of a ruptured case in the lab I work in, and I'll email anyone who helps out a copy, assuming the lab allows me to. Thanks in advance for your help.
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Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
I know there's a few here, so the prospects are promising. But it's up to them to chime in.
Good Luck
I know there's a few here, so the prospects are promising. But it's up to them to chime in.
Good Luck
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
I'm an EE and will offer my 2 cents. You need an industrial or materials engineer. I look forward to reading the updates to your inquiry.
I'm an EE and will offer my 2 cents. You need an industrial or materials engineer. I look forward to reading the updates to your inquiry.
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
I'm a ME/CE (Tribologist)and do a lot with metallurgy. B7 is so commonplace that all the metallurgical info is the readily available but it sounds like you're looking more at the process in which you'd be better off seeking out an industrial engineer, someone who deals with punches, dies, etc...
I'm a ME/CE (Tribologist)and do a lot with metallurgy. B7 is so commonplace that all the metallurgical info is the readily available but it sounds like you're looking more at the process in which you'd be better off seeking out an industrial engineer, someone who deals with punches, dies, etc...
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a ME/CE (Tribologist)and do a lot with metallurgy. B7 is so commonplace that all the metallurgical info is the readily available but it sounds like you're looking more at the process in which you'd be better off seeking out an industrial engineer, someone who deals with punches, dies, etc...</div></div>
OT: I had to look up WTH a Tribologist is.
T-shirt idea in case you guys have, I dunno, clubs or something:
"Tribbed, for your pleasure".
(maybe on the back)
"tri·bol·o·gy (tr -b l -j , tr b-). n. The science of the mechanisms of friction, lubrication, and wear of interacting surfaces that are in relative motion."
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a ME/CE (Tribologist)and do a lot with metallurgy. B7 is so commonplace that all the metallurgical info is the readily available but it sounds like you're looking more at the process in which you'd be better off seeking out an industrial engineer, someone who deals with punches, dies, etc...</div></div>
OT: I had to look up WTH a Tribologist is.
T-shirt idea in case you guys have, I dunno, clubs or something:
"Tribbed, for your pleasure".
(maybe on the back)
"tri·bol·o·gy (tr -b l -j , tr b-). n. The science of the mechanisms of friction, lubrication, and wear of interacting surfaces that are in relative motion."
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
A quick search on LinkedIn showed a few engineers from Hornady. If you have an account, you may approach these guys for general statements on process control, GD&T, draw re-draw case formation, etc.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jeremy-millard/6/78b/b33
A quick search on LinkedIn showed a few engineers from Hornady. If you have an account, you may approach these guys for general statements on process control, GD&T, draw re-draw case formation, etc.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jeremy-millard/6/78b/b33
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
I am actually a materials engineer, I already have covered the basics of drawing casings, ductility, the pressure vessel schematics, weight, other engineering concerns, so I'm pretty much just looking for the icing on the cake. Thank you all for your help, the notebook sounds like a great idea but I do not know if I'll have time to get a copy, I'll try though. High Binder, I'll definitely come back to you when I'm done to see if you have additional idea. The linkedin idea is great, I'm pretty new to it, but I'll definitely contact them there, thank you for that. Keep it coming.
I am actually a materials engineer, I already have covered the basics of drawing casings, ductility, the pressure vessel schematics, weight, other engineering concerns, so I'm pretty much just looking for the icing on the cake. Thank you all for your help, the notebook sounds like a great idea but I do not know if I'll have time to get a copy, I'll try though. High Binder, I'll definitely come back to you when I'm done to see if you have additional idea. The linkedin idea is great, I'm pretty new to it, but I'll definitely contact them there, thank you for that. Keep it coming.
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rideHPD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> High Binder, I'll definitely come back to you when I'm done to see if you have additional idea. </div></div>
Sounds good, shoot me a PM when/if you have any questions.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rideHPD</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> High Binder, I'll definitely come back to you when I'm done to see if you have additional idea. </div></div>
Sounds good, shoot me a PM when/if you have any questions.
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a ME/CE (Tribologist)and do a lot with metallurgy. B7 is so commonplace that all the metallurgical info is the readily available but it sounds like you're looking more at the process in which you'd be better off seeking out an industrial engineer, someone who deals with punches, dies, etc...</div></div>
OT: I had to look up WTH a Tribologist is.
T-shirt idea in case you guys have, I dunno, clubs or something:
"Tribbed, for your pleasure".
(maybe on the back)
"tri·bol·o·gy (tr -b l -j , tr b-). n. The science of the mechanisms of friction, lubrication, and wear of interacting surfaces that are in relative motion." </div></div>
No clubs, just a professional societies STLE/ASME/SME. There was a lot of that type of stuff going around on T-shirts back in the day apparently when two females rub their junk together it's called 'tribbing' and because 'tribology' is the science of friction there are a lot of inside jokes about friction/heat/self-lubricating/etc..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CS1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: High Binder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm a ME/CE (Tribologist)and do a lot with metallurgy. B7 is so commonplace that all the metallurgical info is the readily available but it sounds like you're looking more at the process in which you'd be better off seeking out an industrial engineer, someone who deals with punches, dies, etc...</div></div>
OT: I had to look up WTH a Tribologist is.
T-shirt idea in case you guys have, I dunno, clubs or something:
"Tribbed, for your pleasure".
(maybe on the back)
"tri·bol·o·gy (tr -b l -j , tr b-). n. The science of the mechanisms of friction, lubrication, and wear of interacting surfaces that are in relative motion." </div></div>
No clubs, just a professional societies STLE/ASME/SME. There was a lot of that type of stuff going around on T-shirts back in the day apparently when two females rub their junk together it's called 'tribbing' and because 'tribology' is the science of friction there are a lot of inside jokes about friction/heat/self-lubricating/etc..
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the"HATCHER'S" notebook sounds like a great idea but I do not know if I'll have time to get a copy, I'll try though.</div></div>
Or you can download it. That shouldn't take long. Even if you don't need it for your current project, Hatcher's Notebook will always come in handy.
http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerdog/g..._searchable.pdf
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">the"HATCHER'S" notebook sounds like a great idea but I do not know if I'll have time to get a copy, I'll try though.</div></div>
Or you can download it. That shouldn't take long. Even if you don't need it for your current project, Hatcher's Notebook will always come in handy.
http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerdog/g..._searchable.pdf
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
you could always call Hornady and ask to speak to Dave Emery. He is their chief ballistican and all around good dude
you could always call Hornady and ask to speak to Dave Emery. He is their chief ballistican and all around good dude
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
Solid info, I've been in class all day, I'll try to give them a call during my lunch break tomorrow.
Solid info, I've been in class all day, I'll try to give them a call during my lunch break tomorrow.
Re: Anyone an Engineer/Tech for an Ammo Company?
Find a Deep Draw toolmaker in your area..this is common practice(everything from Soda cans to rifle cases), that will be your best bet..its not gonna be cheap to have a deep draw die made and run your parts.
Find a Deep Draw toolmaker in your area..this is common practice(everything from Soda cans to rifle cases), that will be your best bet..its not gonna be cheap to have a deep draw die made and run your parts.
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