Suppressors feedback on the AWC Thor
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Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
I have to two, one in 338 and one in .30 cal, I haven't' shot them to say yet, but will take one out tomorrow. (30)
I have to two, one in 338 and one in .30 cal, I haven't' shot them to say yet, but will take one out tomorrow. (30)
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
I have the Thor Ti in 6.5
I have the Thor Ti in 6.5
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
Ok,
So I shot the AWC THOR Ti today, (.30 cal) and compared it to my TBAC 30P-1 and I have to say I was very impressed.
Being I was able to control the environment much better then when I demo'd the unit initial back in 2011, this was a night and day experience with the suppressor.
Conditions were not great, the wind was gusting all day around 18MPH, so bad at one point it torn my target down with 6 staples in it. However the results were excellent and worth sharing.
The rifle used was my Accuracy International AX 308 (20" 2650fps) the ammo was factory loaded 175gr.
I started off the day zeroing the rifle without any can on it. Just to make sure I can check the deviation from unsuppressed to suppressed with each can. <span style="font-style: italic">(remember alway zero at 9 O Clock on the target to cover SD) </span>
My first set of shots with the AWC THOR Ti
You can reference the zeroed un-suppressed group below the initial group.
The deviation with the THOR was roughly 1.5" from center and they grouped high, at 12 O Clock on the Shoot N C target.
I then added the TBAC 30P-1 to the rifle
I shot the same target, which I should have deviated, but didn't however you can see the TBAC was just slightly below the AWC group by 1/2" so very close to the same POI Shift between the two suppressors with a similar zero.
Then I shot them independently just to check the group size for accuracy.
I shot a little bit better group with the THOR, but the TBAC was as consistent as ever given the conditions. The wind was really bad, and effecting both me and my shots. So after the TBAC group was shot I added a second TAB Rear bag to help stabilize the rifle. It clearly made a difference. Still I would call it good.
The AWC is a good looking can, and clearly effective. I don't know what caused the early deviation I saw when I tried to demo the can back in Nov, but I am glad it turned out as it did. The THOR was excellent and I look forward to shooting it some more.
Ok,
So I shot the AWC THOR Ti today, (.30 cal) and compared it to my TBAC 30P-1 and I have to say I was very impressed.
Being I was able to control the environment much better then when I demo'd the unit initial back in 2011, this was a night and day experience with the suppressor.
Conditions were not great, the wind was gusting all day around 18MPH, so bad at one point it torn my target down with 6 staples in it. However the results were excellent and worth sharing.
The rifle used was my Accuracy International AX 308 (20" 2650fps) the ammo was factory loaded 175gr.
I started off the day zeroing the rifle without any can on it. Just to make sure I can check the deviation from unsuppressed to suppressed with each can. <span style="font-style: italic">(remember alway zero at 9 O Clock on the target to cover SD) </span>
My first set of shots with the AWC THOR Ti
You can reference the zeroed un-suppressed group below the initial group.
The deviation with the THOR was roughly 1.5" from center and they grouped high, at 12 O Clock on the Shoot N C target.
I then added the TBAC 30P-1 to the rifle
I shot the same target, which I should have deviated, but didn't however you can see the TBAC was just slightly below the AWC group by 1/2" so very close to the same POI Shift between the two suppressors with a similar zero.
Then I shot them independently just to check the group size for accuracy.
I shot a little bit better group with the THOR, but the TBAC was as consistent as ever given the conditions. The wind was really bad, and effecting both me and my shots. So after the TBAC group was shot I added a second TAB Rear bag to help stabilize the rifle. It clearly made a difference. Still I would call it good.
The AWC is a good looking can, and clearly effective. I don't know what caused the early deviation I saw when I tried to demo the can back in Nov, but I am glad it turned out as it did. The THOR was excellent and I look forward to shooting it some more.
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
Thats awesome. Im waiting on 2 of their 30 cal models....
Thats awesome. Im waiting on 2 of their 30 cal models....
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
What follows is my opinion.
The development of the THOR (Thermal High Order Radiant) can was a significant development in titanium suppressors. Early on it became clear that all forms of stock titanium tubing normally purchased for titanium envelopes would not meet either the internal dimensional requirements nor internal/external surfacing requirements of an advanced generation of no holds barred cans. If a company buys stock dimensioned Ti tubing (and almost everybody else does), they are significantly limited in regard to internal dimension, wall thicknesses and the ability to significantly fashion exterior attributes. In other words, it became clear that titanium envelopes would have to be made from titanium billet, produced in a new generation of expensive manufacturing equipment. THOR (Thermal High Order Radiant) surfacing was to be wholly dependent on 100% circumferential deep penetration welding of each and every component directly to that very same envelope. Many of you have heard me rattle on about Ti billet and deep penetration welding before, in welded titanium cans, especially around baffles it is, imo, everything. Precision, not only of the bore, but of the end caps and newly designed primary stage would require new welding equipment and techniques as well. But there was something more. The frequency found within titanium suppressors is fundamentally different than other steels. The welding of fully formed and fashioned baffles (not a monocore) actually suppresses higher frequencies that can contribute to the tendency for some Ti cans to ring/ping. Resulting strength and rigidity is also very high. Lastly, the deep penetration welding allows for a high finish, especially on the end caps and radiant cores that are so obvious on the THOR. Add to that an epoxy resin finish that takes days to cure and actually strengthens with every heating cycle and you have something really unique.
Getting AWC to take the plunge into the THOR and all that commitment meant was the result of single person, Chris Short of AWC. Chris' leadership as general manager guided AWC through the final years of Lynn's ownership and life, through the transition to Chris' own leadership and on to the sale of AWC to new owners. Chris was the driving force behind a blistering release of all new product that included THOR, Triad, Valkyrie, THOR Raider (all released in approx a year) it was nothing short of astonishing. Like Lynn, Chris was different, but few worked as hard at building the absolute best product possible as Lynn and then Chris did.
You can say want you want about AWC. I've owned AWC can's for longer than many of the readers here have been alive. I've owned a THOR a long time too, releasing some of the very first pics right here on the Hide. IMO, there is not a single can on the face of the earth that comes close to the fit, finish and performance of this can. Is it for everyone, nope. Is it expensive? yep. Does everyone need a can like this? Nope. But the next time somebody tells you that AWC is "old school" just ask them to pic up ANY advanced Ti can and hold it next to a THOR, shoot those same cans and report back....and then again in, say, ten more years.
Frank, I am glad you like yours, I like mine too.
Battlecloth case.
What follows is my opinion.
The development of the THOR (Thermal High Order Radiant) can was a significant development in titanium suppressors. Early on it became clear that all forms of stock titanium tubing normally purchased for titanium envelopes would not meet either the internal dimensional requirements nor internal/external surfacing requirements of an advanced generation of no holds barred cans. If a company buys stock dimensioned Ti tubing (and almost everybody else does), they are significantly limited in regard to internal dimension, wall thicknesses and the ability to significantly fashion exterior attributes. In other words, it became clear that titanium envelopes would have to be made from titanium billet, produced in a new generation of expensive manufacturing equipment. THOR (Thermal High Order Radiant) surfacing was to be wholly dependent on 100% circumferential deep penetration welding of each and every component directly to that very same envelope. Many of you have heard me rattle on about Ti billet and deep penetration welding before, in welded titanium cans, especially around baffles it is, imo, everything. Precision, not only of the bore, but of the end caps and newly designed primary stage would require new welding equipment and techniques as well. But there was something more. The frequency found within titanium suppressors is fundamentally different than other steels. The welding of fully formed and fashioned baffles (not a monocore) actually suppresses higher frequencies that can contribute to the tendency for some Ti cans to ring/ping. Resulting strength and rigidity is also very high. Lastly, the deep penetration welding allows for a high finish, especially on the end caps and radiant cores that are so obvious on the THOR. Add to that an epoxy resin finish that takes days to cure and actually strengthens with every heating cycle and you have something really unique.
Getting AWC to take the plunge into the THOR and all that commitment meant was the result of single person, Chris Short of AWC. Chris' leadership as general manager guided AWC through the final years of Lynn's ownership and life, through the transition to Chris' own leadership and on to the sale of AWC to new owners. Chris was the driving force behind a blistering release of all new product that included THOR, Triad, Valkyrie, THOR Raider (all released in approx a year) it was nothing short of astonishing. Like Lynn, Chris was different, but few worked as hard at building the absolute best product possible as Lynn and then Chris did.
You can say want you want about AWC. I've owned AWC can's for longer than many of the readers here have been alive. I've owned a THOR a long time too, releasing some of the very first pics right here on the Hide. IMO, there is not a single can on the face of the earth that comes close to the fit, finish and performance of this can. Is it for everyone, nope. Is it expensive? yep. Does everyone need a can like this? Nope. But the next time somebody tells you that AWC is "old school" just ask them to pic up ANY advanced Ti can and hold it next to a THOR, shoot those same cans and report back....and then again in, say, ten more years.
Frank, I am glad you like yours, I like mine too.
Battlecloth case.
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
Mine a 5.56 is very impressive and I have two more pending and two more on order. Cant wait to have them all in my stable. I think they are the best of the best. PG
Mine a 5.56 is very impressive and I have two more pending and two more on order. Cant wait to have them all in my stable. I think they are the best of the best. PG
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
I was glad to see this when I shot it... Clearly the shooting at the Dealers range was flawed and I am happy I sat on that information like I did, clearly there was an issue.
The THOR Ti was excellent. You can almost hear the difference the heavy wall makes, as the sound is flat, and the tone is low and short lived.
Besides being a good looking can, I was very happy with the results.
I was glad to see this when I shot it... Clearly the shooting at the Dealers range was flawed and I am happy I sat on that information like I did, clearly there was an issue.
The THOR Ti was excellent. You can almost hear the difference the heavy wall makes, as the sound is flat, and the tone is low and short lived.
Besides being a good looking can, I was very happy with the results.
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
Best place to buy a thor?
Best place to buy a thor?
Re: feedback on the AWC Thor
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 208Plinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Best place to buy a thor? </div></div>
Where you can find them in stock. I think at the moment AWC is about the only place that has them, but they are made to order. Call them and ask!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 208Plinker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Best place to buy a thor? </div></div>
Where you can find them in stock. I think at the moment AWC is about the only place that has them, but they are made to order. Call them and ask!
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