Rifle Scopes nikon m-223 with nikon 20moa mount

[Elfy]

I have a RRA tactical operator 2 ar-15. I've had eotech before and just can't work with the max 100yard precise target practice. Don't get me wrong, eotech / red-dots are great from 0 to 80yards, but that's about it in IMO. And can't stand the eotech / red dot magnifer extra weight and crappy eye relief so I'm moving over to a scope. Kinda done with the whole red dot / magnifier idea. Just doesn't work for me.


Anyway, main use is for 90% target practice with possible 10% hunting in mind. Possible target practice from 50yards to 500 yards. Was thinking about the Nikon M-223 3-12 scope with the 20moa scope mount. What do you all think about the set up and scope? Going to purchase tomorrow.


Elfy

 

[Shooter_308]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

i was in the exact same boat as you optics wise, using an eotech most of the time and switching to a 3-9x because i was more into shooting longer distance. I ended up with the P-223 in the 20moa mount.

The only difference i noticed between the P-223 and M-223 was a different magnification level and objective lens size. Both had crystal clear glass, same reticle and awesome turrets with very positive clicks. They both adjusted very nicely and were very light. @ 100 yards the P-223 stood up to the recoil of my 16" AR with 62gr steel penetrator no problem, i wouldn't expect any less than that from the M-223.

To be honest other than what i listed i don't see why there's such a price difference....looking through and playing with both i noticed zero difference functionality-wise.

TL;DR

I have the P-223 and tried the M-223, as well as the M-223 mount. You won't go wrong with either. They are quality pieces.

 

[bwanajcj]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

Although it's great glass, I'm not sure about the 20Moa base. you may not have enough adjustment for a 100yd zero.

 

[Shooter_308]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

i believe the M-223 is capable of 60 MOA internal adjustment, if i'm not mistaken. Even with the 20moa base he should be okay @ 100 yard zero...

 

[Elfy]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

nice to know! did you get the bdc or nikoplex? i'm torn on which one to get.... more on the nikoplex side.



<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter_308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i was in the exact same boat as you optics wise, using an eotech most of the time and switching to a 3-9x because i was more into shooting longer distance. I ended up with the P-223 in the 20moa mount.

The only difference i noticed between the P-223 and M-223 was a different magnification level and objective lens size. Both had crystal clear glass, same reticle and awesome turrets with very positive clicks. They both adjusted very nicely and were very light. @ 100 yards the P-223 stood up to the recoil of my 16" AR with 62gr steel penetrator no problem, i wouldn't expect any less than that from the M-223.

To be honest other than what i listed i don't see why there's such a price difference....looking through and playing with both i noticed zero difference functionality-wise.

TL;DR

I have the P-223 and tried the M-223, as well as the M-223 mount. You won't go wrong with either. They are quality pieces. </div></div>

 

[DirtyDave]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

No need for the 20moa base if you are only shooting to 500yds

 

[Elfy]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

what are your thoughts between the bdc or nikoplex w/fast action turrets on the nikon scopes?

 

[zlman]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DirtyDave</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No need for the 20moa base if you are only shooting to 500yds</div></div>

Maybe not a need for the base but I know for cheekweld I like my scopes higher off the rail.

 

[Shooter_308]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

I liked the BDC better than nikoplex, but thats my personal preference. Its amazing how accurate their spot-on program is too!

 

[bman940]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

Shooter is correct, defintely do not need to 20 MOA base to get to 500 yards. I like the NP Rapid Action Turret system but I love the BDC circles. I have ben shooting them for 7 years so it's not a tough choice or learning curve for me. On the other hand, I have taken guys completely new to Nikon's BDC reticle and introduced them to SPot On and watched them bang steel from 100 to 600 yards, some without 1 miss! It works and it lets you use whatever ammo you want to use.
For most it's 6 of one, half doz. of another.....check them both out and see what you think will be the easiest for you to use.
Drop me a note if I can answer any questions for you.

Nikon M-223 3-12 Rapid Action Turret

 

[Elfy]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

purchased the m-223 3-12 with NP. So far, it looks really really nice on my rifle. Not a big fan of the included caps so I purchased some butler creek flip up caps. Also purchased the m-223 mount with built in 20moa. Going out to fire my rifle for the first time this weekend and I'll let you all know how it goes.


Elfy

 

[ms6852]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

Elfy1234, just saw your thread and was going to recommend not to purchase the nikon without parallax adjustment. I have a nikon monarch mounted on my RRA predator the 2.5-10x42 with BDC and was disappointed at how terrible parallax is at 200 yds. I wanted to zero at 200 but was limited to 100 yds.

Am looking forward to a range report.

 

[Elfy]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Imurhuckleberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Elfy1234, just saw your thread and was going to recommend not to purchase the nikon without parallax adjustment. I have a nikon monarch mounted on my RRA predator the 2.5-10x42 with BDC and was disappointed at how terrible parallax is at 200 yds. I wanted to zero at 200 but was limited to 100 yds.

Am looking forward to a range report. </div></div>


but the m-223 3-12x42 nikoplex has a side focus to correct parallax tho.....?

this is the scope i purchased: http://www.nikonhunting.com/products/riflescopes/m-223/3-12x42SF_Rapid_Action_Turret_Nikoplex/8488

and this mount: http://www.nikonhunting.com/products/accessories/ar_mount/M-223_XR_AR_Mount/743

 

[Elfy]

Re: nikon m-233 with nikon 20moa mount

Went to our local range today just to test out my new rifle / scope package, get it zero'd in, and just to over all make sure nothing is wrong with the new build.


Just to give you a low down on our situation. Shooting from a bench w/ grip pod @ 100yards with ultramax FMJ 55grn .223 3000fps remanufacured ammo. Not the best ammo in the world, but it is brass casing & cost me 99.99 for 250ct box & i just wanted to test out the rifle and get it zero'd in for the most part. No point in wasting expensive ammo on break in / zero / test. Will get some better 55grn @ 3240fps when I test this scope out at multiple 100yard, 200yard, 300yard, and 400yard ranges.


First and foremost, the rock river arms tactical operator 2 worked great. Absolutely no problems with failure to load and such. Very happy with the rifle purchase. Very solid rifle.


As for the nikon m-223 3-12x42 nikoplex with nikon 20moa m-223 mount, wow. Very impressed with the scope and very happy with the purchase so far. Took about 6 rounds to get zero'd in @ 100yards. Once we zero'd the scope in my friend took 10 shots, then i took 10 shots. We did this back and forth about 6x each. Our 12 total, 10shot groupings ranged anywhere from about 1" to about 2" groupings. About 80% of the goupings usually had about 4 to 5 rounds tight together about a dime size 1/2" moa where there was just a big hole in the paper. I'm very pleased with this. I really wanted to test out the fast action turrets / rifle @ 400yards, but our local range only has max 100yards. Will test this out at another range at a later time, but it is furthur away from my house. Main objective was to test everything out to make sure everything was tip top. About 1/2 way thru our shoot once we had the zero locked down for sure, I cranked the fast action turrets elevation / windage all the way up and then back down to zero lock to simulate different range shooting,,,,, and the groupings didn't change and were nuts on zero @ 100yrds. Wow, I was blown away & I think I got a real keeper here.


I'll keep you all updated once we can test out multiple range shots when I get time and maybe post some pics.


I think once I get my DPMS .308 recon, I will purchase the m-308 scope package with 20moa mount for that also once it comes out. So far, so good!


Elfy