Any advice on which suppressor wrap to buy? I am looking for a good quality suppressor wrap for my 308 can. I want something that does not smell funky or melt when hot and it has to be durable.
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This is the one I use. I have been very happy with it.
https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/tactical-gear/tab-sas-suppressor-anti-mirage-shield.html
This is the one I use. I have been very happy with it.
https://www.riflesonly.com/pro-shop/tactical-gear/tab-sas-suppressor-anti-mirage-shield.html
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TAB is what most people use.
TAB is what most people use.
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There are a few, the TAB probably being the most popular.
I just ordered an Elite Iron suppressor wrap. Video reviews show it to be a little better material than nomex, but that's yet to be seen first hand. Biggest reason I was interested was the price and to utilize the thread ties as a ghillie base when hunting.
Another that will be good to see real world results from is what's called the Suppressor Sock by WarSport...but at their price point...it will have to be ultra awesome.
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There are a few, the TAB probably being the most popular.
I just ordered an Elite Iron suppressor wrap. Video reviews show it to be a little better material than nomex, but that's yet to be seen first hand. Biggest reason I was interested was the price and to utilize the thread ties as a ghillie base when hunting.
Another that will be good to see real world results from is what's called the Suppressor Sock by WarSport...but at their price point...it will have to be ultra awesome.
previous topic with videos
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I have been a fan of Elite Irons for a while and have another on order as we speak. I think it is only a matter of preference as most function the same with the same results. IF you need custom size, elite iron is only a week out. The other companies told me 3-4 weeks.
I have been a fan of Elite Irons for a while and have another on order as we speak. I think it is only a matter of preference as most function the same with the same results. IF you need custom size, elite iron is only a week out. The other companies told me 3-4 weeks.
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+1 TAB
+1 TAB
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so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap?
so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap?
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Help with mirage and sort of like a pot holder so you don't burn yourself.
Help with mirage and sort of like a pot holder so you don't burn yourself.
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Without the cover you can have serious mirage problems within 4 to 6 rounds. With a cover you should be able to fire many more than that without mirage problems. Also like windermike says it helps you keep from burning your self our your gear after firing a string of rounds and the cover is several hundred degrees.
I have no idea about other companies but we try to maintain a selection of the most popular colors and sizes in stock. If it's not in stock then we try to have the cover on the way to the customer within two weeks at the latest and usually are quicker than that.
Without the cover you can have serious mirage problems within 4 to 6 rounds. With a cover you should be able to fire many more than that without mirage problems. Also like windermike says it helps you keep from burning your self our your gear after firing a string of rounds and the cover is several hundred degrees.
I have no idea about other companies but we try to maintain a selection of the most popular colors and sizes in stock. If it's not in stock then we try to have the cover on the way to the customer within two weeks at the latest and usually are quicker than that.
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Thanks guys. 50/50 from what I'm hearing and reading. TAB or Elite Iron.
Thanks guys. 50/50 from what I'm hearing and reading. TAB or Elite Iron.
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TDT:
I have dumped all my other covers in favour of TAB Gear covers. You will not be disapointed be either the kit or the customer service given. TAB is also a heavy contributer to the armed forces guys. I have seen Mr. TAB Gear stop in a competition trainup to make can covers for Army Rangers to help them out. That kind of service is imposible to find anywhere nowadays. TAB is the king in my book.
TDT:
I have dumped all my other covers in favour of TAB Gear covers. You will not be disapointed be either the kit or the customer service given. TAB is also a heavy contributer to the armed forces guys. I have seen Mr. TAB Gear stop in a competition trainup to make can covers for Army Rangers to help them out. That kind of service is imposible to find anywhere nowadays. TAB is the king in my book.
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I ordered a TAB suppressor cover and actually ordered the wrong one. The customer service called me that day to double check. I got the right cover the first time because their customer service caught my mistake and called me to correct it before mailing it out. The cover was at my door in about 3 days from time of ordering. Awesome customer service! I still haven't got to use the cover because the ATF still has my paperwork, but it seems to be made well.
I ordered a TAB suppressor cover and actually ordered the wrong one. The customer service called me that day to double check. I got the right cover the first time because their customer service caught my mistake and called me to correct it before mailing it out. The cover was at my door in about 3 days from time of ordering. Awesome customer service! I still haven't got to use the cover because the ATF still has my paperwork, but it seems to be made well.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once !
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once !
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once ! </div></div>
That is NOT the purpose of a suppressor wrap. They are called mirage shields for a reason. As you shoot a bolt gun with a suppressor, mirage will form quicker to the point that you cannot really see what your looking at thru the scope. The mirage shield traps in some of that heat and lets you continue your course of fire.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once !
That is NOT the purpose of a suppressor wrap. They are called mirage shields for a reason. As you shoot a bolt gun with a suppressor, mirage will form quicker to the point that you cannot really see what your looking at thru the scope. The mirage shield traps in some of that heat and lets you continue your course of fire.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tburkes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Without the cover you can have serious mirage problems within 4 to 6 rounds. With a cover you should be able to fire many more than that without mirage problems. Also like windermike says it helps you keep from burning your self our your gear after firing a string of rounds and the cover is several hundred degrees.
I have no idea about other companies but we try to maintain a selection of the most popular colors and sizes in stock. If it's not in stock then we try to have the cover on the way to the customer within two weeks at the latest and usually are quicker than that. </div></div>
If you want a top notch cover from top notch people then This is your guy.
I have two of them and they work great.
TAB is TOPS!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tburkes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Without the cover you can have serious mirage problems within 4 to 6 rounds. With a cover you should be able to fire many more than that without mirage problems. Also like windermike says it helps you keep from burning your self our your gear after firing a string of rounds and the cover is several hundred degrees.
I have no idea about other companies but we try to maintain a selection of the most popular colors and sizes in stock. If it's not in stock then we try to have the cover on the way to the customer within two weeks at the latest and usually are quicker than that. </div></div>
If you want a top notch cover from top notch people then This is your guy.
I have two of them and they work great.
TAB is TOPS!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once ! </div></div>
That is NOT the purpose of a suppressor wrap. They are called mirage shields for a reason. As you shoot a bolt gun with a suppressor, mirage will form quicker to the point that you cannot really see what your looking at thru the scope. The mirage shield traps in some of that heat and lets you continue your course of fire. </div></div>
I was just referring to some of the additional benefits of having a cover ...jeezus..
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once !
That is NOT the purpose of a suppressor wrap. They are called mirage shields for a reason. As you shoot a bolt gun with a suppressor, mirage will form quicker to the point that you cannot really see what your looking at thru the scope. The mirage shield traps in some of that heat and lets you continue your course of fire. </div></div>
I was just referring to some of the additional benefits of having a cover ...jeezus..
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Looks like I will be going with TAB. Thanks for your help. Now I have to figure out which TAB would work best for me.
Looks like I will be going with TAB. Thanks for your help. Now I have to figure out which TAB would work best for me.
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Thank you for the support guys, we appreciate it a lot.
Koz, that's about how things usually work when a custom order is placed. Sometimes it takes a little longer due to work loads, but that's how we try to operate.
Twisted, you probably won't have any problems with a mag, or two at the most, with mag dumps, but like KYS338 said these covers were created more for mirage problems than to be a heat shield. We have a lot of customers who do exactly what you do, dump a mag or two, and get away with it. If you don't give the can time to cool though, your third mag is probably going to cause problems and melt the cover. If you have a SAS2 model do NOT, REPEAT, DO NOT, attempt to slide the cover either forward or rearward after you've just fired a string and the can is hot. This model is designed to be left on the can. Any attempt to slide the can either back or forward on a hot can will result in your burning through the Cordura and shock cord, that is sewn into either end of the cover, before you can get it off of the can.
It's taking longer than I was lead to believe when we started but we are currently working with an outfit that is testing some prototypes for us that hopefully we can state that they're rated as a full auto cover, or at least an "X" number of mags on rapid semi auto. The outside will still get hot, because you have to let the heat out or you will damage the can, but it'll be better than having hot metal brush up against you or your gear. When we get something finalized we'll be letting everyone know so please don't start calling and wanting to place an order for one at this time.
TDT, I would recommend the SAS3 model for your .308. It's easy to install, easy to slide back onto the barrel to let the can cool, and easy to slide back onto the barrel when you're ready to shoot again.
Thank you for the support guys, we appreciate it a lot.
Koz, that's about how things usually work when a custom order is placed. Sometimes it takes a little longer due to work loads, but that's how we try to operate.
Twisted, you probably won't have any problems with a mag, or two at the most, with mag dumps, but like KYS338 said these covers were created more for mirage problems than to be a heat shield. We have a lot of customers who do exactly what you do, dump a mag or two, and get away with it. If you don't give the can time to cool though, your third mag is probably going to cause problems and melt the cover. If you have a SAS2 model do NOT, REPEAT, DO NOT, attempt to slide the cover either forward or rearward after you've just fired a string and the can is hot. This model is designed to be left on the can. Any attempt to slide the can either back or forward on a hot can will result in your burning through the Cordura and shock cord, that is sewn into either end of the cover, before you can get it off of the can.
It's taking longer than I was lead to believe when we started but we are currently working with an outfit that is testing some prototypes for us that hopefully we can state that they're rated as a full auto cover, or at least an "X" number of mags on rapid semi auto. The outside will still get hot, because you have to let the heat out or you will damage the can, but it'll be better than having hot metal brush up against you or your gear. When we get something finalized we'll be letting everyone know so please don't start calling and wanting to place an order for one at this time.
TDT, I would recommend the SAS3 model for your .308. It's easy to install, easy to slide back onto the barrel to let the can cool, and easy to slide back onto the barrel when you're ready to shoot again.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tburkes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you for the support guys, we appreciate it a lot.
Koz, that's about how things usually work when a custom order is placed. Sometimes it takes a little longer due to work loads, but that's how we try to operate.
</div></div>
Tony - I wasn't complaining about the two weeks - just reporting for the other poster who said he was quoted 3-4 weeks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tburkes</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thank you for the support guys, we appreciate it a lot.
Koz, that's about how things usually work when a custom order is placed. Sometimes it takes a little longer due to work loads, but that's how we try to operate.
</div></div>
Tony - I wasn't complaining about the two weeks - just reporting for the other poster who said he was quoted 3-4 weeks.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacDriverTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like I will be going with TAB. Thanks for your help. Now I have to figure out which TAB would work best for me. </div></div>
For what they cost, buy all of them and do a review! They end up being like mood rings!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacDriverTactical</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like I will be going with TAB. Thanks for your help. Now I have to figure out which TAB would work best for me. </div></div>
For what they cost, buy all of them and do a review! They end up being like mood rings!
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+1 for the tab covers - just make sure you pick the one you want - there are 3 types....
+1 for the tab covers - just make sure you pick the one you want - there are 3 types....
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once ! </div></div>
That is NOT the purpose of a suppressor wrap. They are called mirage shields for a reason. As you shoot a bolt gun with a suppressor, mirage will form quicker to the point that you cannot really see what your looking at thru the scope. The mirage shield traps in some of that heat and lets you continue your course of fire. </div></div>
I was just referring to some of the additional benefits of having a cover ...jeezus.. </div></div>
Go do a few mag dumps and then try and put that cover on. Not only are you going to burn your hand all to shit but you will most likely ruin your cover.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Twisted .308</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: corey4</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so, dumb question for the day...
what is the point of the wrap? </div></div>
Do a mag dump or two then lean your rifle with the un-wrapped suppressor up against the vinyl siding of your garage and watch what happens
Yea ...I did this ....only once !
That is NOT the purpose of a suppressor wrap. They are called mirage shields for a reason. As you shoot a bolt gun with a suppressor, mirage will form quicker to the point that you cannot really see what your looking at thru the scope. The mirage shield traps in some of that heat and lets you continue your course of fire. </div></div>
I was just referring to some of the additional benefits of having a cover ...jeezus.. </div></div>
Go do a few mag dumps and then try and put that cover on. Not only are you going to burn your hand all to shit but you will most likely ruin your cover.
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I forgot to mention I have a quick connect. I like what I see about the SAS3. Will it still work?
I forgot to mention I have a quick connect. I like what I see about the SAS3. Will it still work?
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Depends on the can. Some will work just fine if the QD tab doesn't stick out too far. It's not hard to learn where the QD tab is under the cover and access it through the cover.
Some like the Surefire FA762MG type of tab that is a flat piece of metal that sticks up farther than the flatter lower profile QD tabs will dig into the inner material as it's being installed and removed and wear through the inner material. In that case I'd recommend the SAS1 so you can easily undo the velcro and access the tab.
Depends on the can. Some will work just fine if the QD tab doesn't stick out too far. It's not hard to learn where the QD tab is under the cover and access it through the cover.
Some like the Surefire FA762MG type of tab that is a flat piece of metal that sticks up farther than the flatter lower profile QD tabs will dig into the inner material as it's being installed and removed and wear through the inner material. In that case I'd recommend the SAS1 so you can easily undo the velcro and access the tab.
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Any idea if and when TAB will have a product out for 5.56 that will stand a string of fire?
Thanks!!
Any idea if and when TAB will have a product out for 5.56 that will stand a string of fire?
Thanks!!
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Tony is there any plans on making one with a better way of securing the suppressor cover? Me and a bunch of guys have blown both the SAS 2 and 3 off the end of our suppressors on more then 1 occasion. I was thinking a snap buckle in the rear of the cover would probably be more secure then a cord.
Tony is there any plans on making one with a better way of securing the suppressor cover? Me and a bunch of guys have blown both the SAS 2 and 3 off the end of our suppressors on more then 1 occasion. I was thinking a snap buckle in the rear of the cover would probably be more secure then a cord.
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damitboy, like I said a few post up, we're in the process right now of testing some covers we hope to be able to offer as a rapid or limited full auto cover. I'll let everyone know when it's available.
Bacarrat, There is only two ways I can see that a SAS2, or SAS3 will blow off the cover and that is if it's not installed correctly, or if it's the wrong size.
The SAS2 has the shock cord on both ends and is fairly hard to get onto the outer diameter of the can on purpose, so it won't slip off the can. The shock cord at the back has to be completely over the entire back edge of the can. If you've got some kind of QD tab, or locking lever at the back of the can, the cover has to be behind all of this.
The SAS3 will be shot down range if you put it on incorrectly in either of these ways.
First, the label is always to the rear of the cover toward the shooter. If you'll feel the edge of the end with the label compared to the front end, you'll notice that the label end has a ridge that is built into the cover. I call this the internal recoil ridge, IRR.
This ridge is not designed to be stretched over the outside diameter of the can. The SAS3 cover MUST be installed either onto the barrel first, then the suppressor can be installed onto the barrel and the cover slid up onto the can, OR, install the cover onto the can first and then attach the can to the barrel, being careful to not allow any of the can to be pinched in between the two mating surfaces of can and barrel.
If the internal recoil ridge is stretched over the outside diameter of the can this can stretch the IRR out so much that it could possibly allow the can to be shot off since the IRR is no longer doing it's job.
If the cover is installed over the can and slide to the rear with the label facing forward then there is no IRR at all to prevent the can from being shot down range.
If this description doesn't help you out send me some pictures of your setup and we'll get you sorted out.
damitboy, like I said a few post up, we're in the process right now of testing some covers we hope to be able to offer as a rapid or limited full auto cover. I'll let everyone know when it's available.
Bacarrat, There is only two ways I can see that a SAS2, or SAS3 will blow off the cover and that is if it's not installed correctly, or if it's the wrong size.
The SAS2 has the shock cord on both ends and is fairly hard to get onto the outer diameter of the can on purpose, so it won't slip off the can. The shock cord at the back has to be completely over the entire back edge of the can. If you've got some kind of QD tab, or locking lever at the back of the can, the cover has to be behind all of this.
The SAS3 will be shot down range if you put it on incorrectly in either of these ways.
First, the label is always to the rear of the cover toward the shooter. If you'll feel the edge of the end with the label compared to the front end, you'll notice that the label end has a ridge that is built into the cover. I call this the internal recoil ridge, IRR.
This ridge is not designed to be stretched over the outside diameter of the can. The SAS3 cover MUST be installed either onto the barrel first, then the suppressor can be installed onto the barrel and the cover slid up onto the can, OR, install the cover onto the can first and then attach the can to the barrel, being careful to not allow any of the can to be pinched in between the two mating surfaces of can and barrel.
If the internal recoil ridge is stretched over the outside diameter of the can this can stretch the IRR out so much that it could possibly allow the can to be shot off since the IRR is no longer doing it's job.
If the cover is installed over the can and slide to the rear with the label facing forward then there is no IRR at all to prevent the can from being shot down range.
If this description doesn't help you out send me some pictures of your setup and we'll get you sorted out.
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