There is a local shop here selling a new 5r 308 for over $1200!? I thought these were around $800 or so new..is this 1200 dollar price right? Or is the Obama scare creating price gouging?
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Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
They usually go for 950 - 1100
They usually go for 950 - 1100
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Over priced. I paid $950 NIB, shipping and FFL tranfer included. And that was while I was staion in Hawaii.
Over priced. I paid $950 NIB, shipping and FFL tranfer included. And that was while I was staion in Hawaii.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I paid $1025 out the door 6 weeks back. I felt that was pretty 'fair' all things considered. Not a steal, but not a gouge, and I like to support my range.
Now...the fact that it shot 3" groups my 1st time out, then the bolt completely was sticking shut my 2nd time out (factory ammo btw)...well, that made me feel stupid and angry. If I wanted a gun that shot 2-3" groups, I'd use my $500 Marlin 30-30!
It got sent to a repair place, and I haven't shot it since it got back. I just worked up some loads this weekend and will shoot it next week.
Hope it works!
I paid $1025 out the door 6 weeks back. I felt that was pretty 'fair' all things considered. Not a steal, but not a gouge, and I like to support my range.
Now...the fact that it shot 3" groups my 1st time out, then the bolt completely was sticking shut my 2nd time out (factory ammo btw)...well, that made me feel stupid and angry. If I wanted a gun that shot 2-3" groups, I'd use my $500 Marlin 30-30!
It got sent to a repair place, and I haven't shot it since it got back. I just worked up some loads this weekend and will shoot it next week.
Hope it works!
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
The majority of the ones on GB have a Buy It Now price of just over the $1K mark.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=remington+700+5r
The majority of the ones on GB have a Buy It Now price of just over the $1K mark.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=remington+700+5r
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I bought my 26" 300 WM 5r on Gunbroker 6 weeks ago in lightly used condition with a threaded barrel for about $800 shipped and transferred.
I'd look for one under $1000. Anything above, and you may as well build your own on a 700 action with a take-off stock and an in-stock Krieger bbl from Bruno's
I bought my 26" 300 WM 5r on Gunbroker 6 weeks ago in lightly used condition with a threaded barrel for about $800 shipped and transferred.
I'd look for one under $1000. Anything above, and you may as well build your own on a 700 action with a take-off stock and an in-stock Krieger bbl from Bruno's
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
My local Shop is selling them for $1299! I just got on off GB for $1019 last week. Can't wait for it to show up at the same shop for FFL. Even with Shipping to Hawaii and the FFL fee it is $1080 OTD. I can't wait for them to ask me why I didn't just buy it there...
My local Shop is selling them for $1299! I just got on off GB for $1019 last week. Can't wait for it to show up at the same shop for FFL. Even with Shipping to Hawaii and the FFL fee it is $1080 OTD. I can't wait for them to ask me why I didn't just buy it there...
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brentc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bought my 26" 300 WM 5r on Gunbroker 6 weeks ago in lightly used condition with a threaded barrel for about $800 shipped and transferred.
I'd look for one under $1000. Anything above, and you may as well build your own on a 700 action with a take-off stock and an in-stock Krieger bbl from Bruno's </div></div>
+1. Another option would be to send a used M700 to Hart barrels for around $600-$700 out the door you'll have a trued barreled action better than any Rem 5R out there.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brentc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I bought my 26" 300 WM 5r on Gunbroker 6 weeks ago in lightly used condition with a threaded barrel for about $800 shipped and transferred.
I'd look for one under $1000. Anything above, and you may as well build your own on a 700 action with a take-off stock and an in-stock Krieger bbl from Bruno's </div></div>
+1. Another option would be to send a used M700 to Hart barrels for around $600-$700 out the door you'll have a trued barreled action better than any Rem 5R out there.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing </div></div>
Your IQ making you look stupid again...?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
Your IQ making you look stupid again...?
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Got my 300wm for 1069 plus tax. Did a good biy of shoppin around and was only gonna save a small amount by buyin gb. Chose to keep it local. Very pleased so far
Got my 300wm for 1069 plus tax. Did a good biy of shoppin around and was only gonna save a small amount by buyin gb. Chose to keep it local. Very pleased so far
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
cox
You should probably stop and think befofe you do that. If you finding the lowest price on a gun on gun broker, they are probably and really really big dealer and direct with remington (250k).... alot of those guys have to get or match a huge order in order to stay factory direct...... so what they do, is they sell alot of things at cost just to pad their numbers.
Your local dealer is probably using someone like baumler or accusport for their dealer pricing and do not have the same ability to get the factory direct pricing..... plus they will pay a preimum on shipping. Most dealers have a 10% to 15% mark up on a new gun if their lucky.
So now you come through the door boasting about their prices suck when you really dont know what your talking about......Secondly if you did that when I owned my store I woul have just simply mailed your gun back to the dealer and let you deal with another dealer. Their probably not gouging you... There probably not able to get the same deal...... Plus you get a tail light guarentee with your purchase...
That being said if you find a really good deal on line and purchase it, understand that circustance may not be what you think they are, I wouldnt go in bragging and boasting.
I just bought a used unfired remington xcr tactical off line and paid 1000 and was very happy to get it (300 win mag) There are none out there and when they are there 1300 dollars shipped. But I will go in to my dealer saying thank you so much for allowing me to bring my weapon throught there store with out a premium ( $30 transfer)
Back to the r5 308 I just sold a used one on ar15.com for 875 delivered last week..... so deals are out there.
paul
cox
You should probably stop and think befofe you do that. If you finding the lowest price on a gun on gun broker, they are probably and really really big dealer and direct with remington (250k).... alot of those guys have to get or match a huge order in order to stay factory direct...... so what they do, is they sell alot of things at cost just to pad their numbers.
Your local dealer is probably using someone like baumler or accusport for their dealer pricing and do not have the same ability to get the factory direct pricing..... plus they will pay a preimum on shipping. Most dealers have a 10% to 15% mark up on a new gun if their lucky.
So now you come through the door boasting about their prices suck when you really dont know what your talking about......Secondly if you did that when I owned my store I woul have just simply mailed your gun back to the dealer and let you deal with another dealer. Their probably not gouging you... There probably not able to get the same deal...... Plus you get a tail light guarentee with your purchase...
That being said if you find a really good deal on line and purchase it, understand that circustance may not be what you think they are, I wouldnt go in bragging and boasting.
I just bought a used unfired remington xcr tactical off line and paid 1000 and was very happy to get it (300 win mag) There are none out there and when they are there 1300 dollars shipped. But I will go in to my dealer saying thank you so much for allowing me to bring my weapon throught there store with out a premium ( $30 transfer)
Back to the r5 308 I just sold a used one on ar15.com for 875 delivered last week..... so deals are out there.
paul
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Prebanpaul...agreed. I'm not planning on bragging etc. Thats really just the way I feel about it. The prices on all their other Remington products there are well within reason. They also tell people that the 5R is basically a M24 like the military uses and also that Remington is going to stop making them. So think what ever you want and if you're willing to pay $280+ extra after tax then more power to you. I do like to buy local and would have had it been $1150 or so maybe even a little more but $1300 is just too much and I just really can't afford to do that.
You are right about not bragging and boasting about it as I do not know the circumstances. Thank you
Prebanpaul...agreed. I'm not planning on bragging etc. Thats really just the way I feel about it. The prices on all their other Remington products there are well within reason. They also tell people that the 5R is basically a M24 like the military uses and also that Remington is going to stop making them. So think what ever you want and if you're willing to pay $280+ extra after tax then more power to you. I do like to buy local and would have had it been $1150 or so maybe even a little more but $1300 is just too much and I just really can't afford to do that.
You are right about not bragging and boasting about it as I do not know the circumstances. Thank you
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: calling4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing </div></div>
Your IQ making you look stupid again...? </div></div>
WTF are you talking about ?
btw, I just checked out your youtube channel...keep working on your duck calls while living at your parents house dork.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: calling4life</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
Your IQ making you look stupid again...? </div></div>
WTF are you talking about ?
btw, I just checked out your youtube channel...keep working on your duck calls while living at your parents house dork.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I've noticed the prices on these jumping way up in my area today actually. I went in looking for a standard SPS Varmint, they were asking $659 plus tax. They had SPS Tac's for $700 and i believe the 5R's were around $1135-1200.
I'll stick to GB at this point.
I've noticed the prices on these jumping way up in my area today actually. I went in looking for a standard SPS Varmint, they were asking $659 plus tax. They had SPS Tac's for $700 and i believe the 5R's were around $1135-1200.
I'll stick to GB at this point.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
You guys ever show them cash in hand and ask what there best price is on that rifle? It might just go down ~5% or more...
You guys ever show them cash in hand and ask what there best price is on that rifle? It might just go down ~5% or more...
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Niles Coyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys ever show them cash in hand and ask what there best price is on that rifle? It might just go down ~5% or more... </div></div>
This. Lots of negotiating goes on in gun shops, you just know how to get a good deal and not piss someone off in the process.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Niles Coyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You guys ever show them cash in hand and ask what there best price is on that rifle? It might just go down ~5% or more... </div></div>
This. Lots of negotiating goes on in gun shops, you just know how to get a good deal and not piss someone off in the process.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I think 5R milspec is a clever marketing ploy thats all. The only thing it has in common with the m24 is the name on the action. They are using this ploy to make people think they are getting more than they really are;thus pay a little more money. I hate it when poeple say Im buying a 700 because thats what the military uses.The ones the military uses are basically full on customs completly worked and tuned and has nothing to do with what your getting off the shelf from Remington.
I think 5R milspec is a clever marketing ploy thats all. The only thing it has in common with the m24 is the name on the action. They are using this ploy to make people think they are getting more than they really are;thus pay a little more money. I hate it when poeple say Im buying a 700 because thats what the military uses.The ones the military uses are basically full on customs completly worked and tuned and has nothing to do with what your getting off the shelf from Remington.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
For the $700 is the SPS, stainless, do they come with an HS precision stock, and is the rifling 11.25
No matter what company you buy from your going to pay a premium for the stainless and the HS costs almost twice as much as the Hogue stocks, finally the odd ball twist and adj trigger arn't going to be tossed in for free.
the Gun has an MOA guarantee.
So is it worth it that's up to the individual.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter_308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've noticed the prices on these jumping way up in my area today actually. I went in looking for a standard SPS Varmint, they were asking $659 plus tax. They had SPS Tac's for $700 and i believe the 5R's were around $1135-1200.
I'll stick to GB at this point. </div></div>
For the $700 is the SPS, stainless, do they come with an HS precision stock, and is the rifling 11.25
No matter what company you buy from your going to pay a premium for the stainless and the HS costs almost twice as much as the Hogue stocks, finally the odd ball twist and adj trigger arn't going to be tossed in for free.
the Gun has an MOA guarantee.
So is it worth it that's up to the individual.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter_308</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've noticed the prices on these jumping way up in my area today actually. I went in looking for a standard SPS Varmint, they were asking $659 plus tax. They had SPS Tac's for $700 and i believe the 5R's were around $1135-1200.
I'll stick to GB at this point. </div></div>
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I haven't paid asking price from a gun store in a long time. They're generally willing to negotiate, especially with cash in hand. Cash and a CHL in Texas have gotten me some pretty nice discounts since they don't have to deal with calling in my background check.
I haven't paid asking price from a gun store in a long time. They're generally willing to negotiate, especially with cash in hand. Cash and a CHL in Texas have gotten me some pretty nice discounts since they don't have to deal with calling in my background check.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd.
I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I'm sure the savage is a fine rifle, My point is how much would the Savage 10 FCP-SR cost in stainless with a HS precision stock? and what happens if you got one that shot like crap.
Features cost money so does having staff on hand to repair a rifle that doesn't live up to your MOA guarantee. Does one need stainless or an HS stock to get a good rifle not at all but if you want the extras you have to pay for them.
Knowing what i know now I would have actually payed a little more for the 5R if it came stock with a Timney and HS target tactical installed. Would have saved me a few bucks in the long run.
As always buy what you can afford and simply go out and enjoy it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd. </div></div>
I'm sure the savage is a fine rifle, My point is how much would the Savage 10 FCP-SR cost in stainless with a HS precision stock? and what happens if you got one that shot like crap.
Features cost money so does having staff on hand to repair a rifle that doesn't live up to your MOA guarantee. Does one need stainless or an HS stock to get a good rifle not at all but if you want the extras you have to pay for them.
Knowing what i know now I would have actually payed a little more for the 5R if it came stock with a Timney and HS target tactical installed. Would have saved me a few bucks in the long run.
As always buy what you can afford and simply go out and enjoy it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd. </div></div>
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd. </div></div>
even more gun for the money, a tikka varmint in 308 if you can find one. even tikka has changed a couple things and nearly doubled the price because of a few "tactical" features.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd. </div></div>
even more gun for the money, a tikka varmint in 308 if you can find one. even tikka has changed a couple things and nearly doubled the price because of a few "tactical" features.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Most definitely causing gouging! Its also creating unfounded shortages, I can walk into one shop who has cases of available ammo at reasonable prices and then walk into another whos telling his customers to buy now at inflated prices because you wont be able to get it.
NEWS FLASH! Gun and ammo companies have government contracts the minute those contracts are filled they will start producing for the general public again at which time the market will also be flooded with surplus military ammo.
NOW will you see a drop in ammo prices no it will remain the same. its all business no different then how OPEC controls oil prices and oil companies have record billion dollar profits year after year.
FEAR has been used to sell merchandise and irrational ideas since the dawn of time.
If Obama doesn't get re elected the prices aren't going to drop a single red cent.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freestylmx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama scare creating price gouging? </div></div>
Most definitely causing gouging! Its also creating unfounded shortages, I can walk into one shop who has cases of available ammo at reasonable prices and then walk into another whos telling his customers to buy now at inflated prices because you wont be able to get it.
NEWS FLASH! Gun and ammo companies have government contracts the minute those contracts are filled they will start producing for the general public again at which time the market will also be flooded with surplus military ammo.
NOW will you see a drop in ammo prices no it will remain the same. its all business no different then how OPEC controls oil prices and oil companies have record billion dollar profits year after year.
FEAR has been used to sell merchandise and irrational ideas since the dawn of time.
If Obama doesn't get re elected the prices aren't going to drop a single red cent.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: freestylmx</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Obama scare creating price gouging? </div></div>
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Paid 950 about a year ago for a 5r in 300wm
Paid 950 about a year ago for a 5r in 300wm
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nfngun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure the savage is a fine rifle, My point is how much would the Savage 10 FCP-SR cost in stainless with a HS precision stock? and what happens if you got one that shot like crap.
Features cost money so does having staff on hand to repair a rifle that doesn't live up to your MOA guarantee. Does one need stainless or an HS stock to get a good rifle not at all but if you want the extras you have to pay for them.
Knowing what i know now I would have actually payed a little more for the 5R if it came stock with a Timney and HS target tactical installed. Would have saved me a few bucks in the long run.
As always buy what you can afford and simply go out and enjoy it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd. </div></div></div></div>
The Savage LRP is probably the closest thing. They are around 1k, and you get the Savage target action and HS stock. If it shoots like crap, sell the barrel and slap a pre-fit on there.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nfngun</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm sure the savage is a fine rifle, My point is how much would the Savage 10 FCP-SR cost in stainless with a HS precision stock? and what happens if you got one that shot like crap.
Features cost money so does having staff on hand to repair a rifle that doesn't live up to your MOA guarantee. Does one need stainless or an HS stock to get a good rifle not at all but if you want the extras you have to pay for them.
Knowing what i know now I would have actually payed a little more for the 5R if it came stock with a Timney and HS target tactical installed. Would have saved me a few bucks in the long run.
As always buy what you can afford and simply go out and enjoy it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've seen 300 dollar pencil barreled Savage package rifles shoot moa more often than not. An moa rifle isn't that great a guarantee just saying. Nothing against the 5r they are good rifles, I just think you could do better for the money. For less money you could get a Savage 10 FCP-SR, more rifle in my opinion less money about 1050 otd. </div></div></div></div>
The Savage LRP is probably the closest thing. They are around 1k, and you get the Savage target action and HS stock. If it shoots like crap, sell the barrel and slap a pre-fit on there.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
nfngun - The SPS i was looking at for $700 was your standard matte black SPS tactical in the Hogue stock. the ones that can be had pretty much anywhere for under $600 if you know where to look (and it ain't hard). When i bought my AAC, it cost me $620, that was 5 months ago.
I do understand the pricing in terms of the HS Precision stocks though, they are high quality tactical stocks and i easily expect to pay more for that over the Hogue, just boggles my mind how crazy some of the gouging is.
Raid Power - oh, i always deal with my buddy there who always drops the prices anywhere from 10-25% if possible. I'm just amazed at the retail prices now, thats all. It's like buying a car, NOBODY pays sticker price! Haha.
nfngun - The SPS i was looking at for $700 was your standard matte black SPS tactical in the Hogue stock. the ones that can be had pretty much anywhere for under $600 if you know where to look (and it ain't hard). When i bought my AAC, it cost me $620, that was 5 months ago.
I do understand the pricing in terms of the HS Precision stocks though, they are high quality tactical stocks and i easily expect to pay more for that over the Hogue, just boggles my mind how crazy some of the gouging is.
Raid Power - oh, i always deal with my buddy there who always drops the prices anywhere from 10-25% if possible. I'm just amazed at the retail prices now, thats all. It's like buying a car, NOBODY pays sticker price! Haha.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think 5R milspec is a clever marketing ploy thats all. The only thing it has in common with the m24 is the name on the action. They are using this ploy to make people think they are getting more than they really are;thus pay a little more money. I hate it when poeple say Im buying a 700 because thats what the military uses.The ones the military uses are basically full on customs completly worked and tuned and has nothing to do with what your getting off the shelf from Remington. </div></div>
Bingo,
Save your money on the 5R which is a mass produced 700 and find a cheapo 700 hunting rifle, true action & rebarrel and if you like a PSS, 5R or varmint stock, then grab a used one here or elsewhere.
Cost for a build..
Used action-400
true action & rebarrel 600
trigger job-50-
used Remington stock -200
bed stock- $150-200
$1400-$1450 and you have a trued custom rifle that will eat the 5R up and be Much better in terms of resale if the rifle was done by a known/reputable builder.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think 5R milspec is a clever marketing ploy thats all. The only thing it has in common with the m24 is the name on the action. They are using this ploy to make people think they are getting more than they really are;thus pay a little more money. I hate it when poeple say Im buying a 700 because thats what the military uses.The ones the military uses are basically full on customs completly worked and tuned and has nothing to do with what your getting off the shelf from Remington. </div></div>
Bingo,
Save your money on the 5R which is a mass produced 700 and find a cheapo 700 hunting rifle, true action & rebarrel and if you like a PSS, 5R or varmint stock, then grab a used one here or elsewhere.
Cost for a build..
Used action-400
true action & rebarrel 600
trigger job-50-
used Remington stock -200
bed stock- $150-200
$1400-$1450 and you have a trued custom rifle that will eat the 5R up and be Much better in terms of resale if the rifle was done by a known/reputable builder.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think 5R milspec is a clever marketing ploy thats all. The only thing it has in common with the m24 is the name on the action. </div></div>
Sure, as long as you ignore that 24" barrel, with 5R rifling, with a 1:11.25" rate of twist. I agree that anyone who claims the 5R Mil-Spec is "what the military uses" is delusional, ignorant, or both. However, the fact remains that for an off-the-shelf rifle the 5R has a lot of things going for it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: scoutsout</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think 5R milspec is a clever marketing ploy thats all. The only thing it has in common with the m24 is the name on the action. </div></div>
Sure, as long as you ignore that 24" barrel, with 5R rifling, with a 1:11.25" rate of twist. I agree that anyone who claims the 5R Mil-Spec is "what the military uses" is delusional, ignorant, or both. However, the fact remains that for an off-the-shelf rifle the 5R has a lot of things going for it.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
From GB on 11/25/2011:
New, Remmy 700, 5R 24" barrel .308 cal Win., Mil-Spec Rifiling (Order #29663) "10th Anniversary Edition," Cere-Kote of my choice:$1169 shipped.
I called and asked Remmy, "10th Anniversary of what?" She was vague, but finally committed to "suppling 5R Mil-Spec barrels and or rifles to the Military." It's stamped on the barrel, too.
My 2c. -Matt
addition: I in no way think or promote that "this is what the military uses", Anymore than my 5.56 Colt M4orgery is what the military uses. (It is probably closer, though).
From GB on 11/25/2011:
New, Remmy 700, 5R 24" barrel .308 cal Win., Mil-Spec Rifiling (Order #29663) "10th Anniversary Edition," Cere-Kote of my choice:$1169 shipped.
I called and asked Remmy, "10th Anniversary of what?" She was vague, but finally committed to "suppling 5R Mil-Spec barrels and or rifles to the Military." It's stamped on the barrel, too.
My 2c. -Matt
addition: I in no way think or promote that "this is what the military uses", Anymore than my 5.56 Colt M4orgery is what the military uses. (It is probably closer, though).
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I bought mine on gunbroker.com for $1125.
I bought mine on gunbroker.com for $1125.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
As I said before theres nothing wrong with the 5R it's a good rifle. The barrel on the other hand is nothing special, the 11.25 twist is optimal for the M118 LR; thats why it has the odd ball twist rate. Also the 5R rifling cuts down on fouling thats about it. There have been various tests the accuracy between 5R and buttoned rifled barrels is nill.
As I said before theres nothing wrong with the 5R it's a good rifle. The barrel on the other hand is nothing special, the 11.25 twist is optimal for the M118 LR; thats why it has the odd ball twist rate. Also the 5R rifling cuts down on fouling thats about it. There have been various tests the accuracy between 5R and buttoned rifled barrels is nill.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I was in the military along with many others on here I'm sure. I hate to tell people the mil-spec label carrys way to much weight.The military buys the best they can get for the lowest price not the best stuff on the market. I would have much rather used my personal stuff than the sh!t they issue. Alot of civilian stuff blows mil-spec stuff out of the water. Example Dragon skin vs the flak jacket they issue they don't want to pony up the doe for the good stuff just saying.
I was in the military along with many others on here I'm sure. I hate to tell people the mil-spec label carrys way to much weight.The military buys the best they can get for the lowest price not the best stuff on the market. I would have much rather used my personal stuff than the sh!t they issue. Alot of civilian stuff blows mil-spec stuff out of the water. Example Dragon skin vs the flak jacket they issue they don't want to pony up the doe for the good stuff just saying.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Actually I think it's the 10th anniversary of them building that particular rifle for accusport.
I paid about 1050 for mine at a local gun shop. I kind of wish I'd have gotten the 20" barreled version but my rifle shoots great. I got .750 groups with FGMM 168 at 100 and I'm no marksman.
Actually I think it's the 10th anniversary of them building that particular rifle for accusport.
I paid about 1050 for mine at a local gun shop. I kind of wish I'd have gotten the 20" barreled version but my rifle shoots great. I got .750 groups with FGMM 168 at 100 and I'm no marksman.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Ahhhh. That is probably the answer to the mysterious "10th Anniversary." I didn't try to find out the answer too hard. It will not affect how it shoots and it's not a collector's item or unique in any way except the roll mark. What a waste of a roll mark IMHO. And believe it or not, I don't care how many were made. (attempt at humor for what seems to be a generic follow up question to a question like this) Thanks, -Matt.
Ahhhh. That is probably the answer to the mysterious "10th Anniversary." I didn't try to find out the answer too hard. It will not affect how it shoots and it's not a collector's item or unique in any way except the roll mark. What a waste of a roll mark IMHO. And believe it or not, I don't care how many were made. (attempt at humor for what seems to be a generic follow up question to a question like this) Thanks, -Matt.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing </div></div>
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. Assuming he already has the action, he'll have a better end product by sending to Hart. Actually for $1,200 even without the action he'll have a better rifle by buying the action then sending to Hart.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. Assuming he already has the action, he'll have a better end product by sending to Hart. Actually for $1,200 even without the action he'll have a better rifle by buying the action then sending to Hart.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing </div></div>
That price did include gunsmithing. Do your research.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
That price did include gunsmithing. Do your research.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing </div></div>
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. Assuming he already has the action, he'll have a better end product by sending to Hart. Actually for $1,200 even without the action he'll have a better rifle by buying the action then sending to Hart. </div></div>
A rifle with out a trigger, bottom metal or a stock? Or are you Assuming he already has that stuff too?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That price did include gunsmithing. Do your research. </div></div>
Or do I need to just do more research...whatever the fuck that means??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cox380</div><div class="ubbcode-body">^^^ hard to believe considering used R700 action commonly sell for $450+ and a Hart barrel STARTS at $315. Thats already way higher than your 600-700 price with out any gunsmithing
I'm afraid you misunderstood me. Assuming he already has the action, he'll have a better end product by sending to Hart. Actually for $1,200 even without the action he'll have a better rifle by buying the action then sending to Hart. </div></div>
A rifle with out a trigger, bottom metal or a stock? Or are you Assuming he already has that stuff too?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jayman_10X</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> That price did include gunsmithing. Do your research. </div></div>
Or do I need to just do more research...whatever the fuck that means??
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I have a .308 5R.
I hemmed and hawed over buying the 5R or the SPS AAC Tac.
I went with the 5R for several reasons.
1. Stainless steel action and barrel
2. 5R rifling
3. They seemed to CONSISTENTLY be out of the box accurate
4. Comes in a very good stock
The rifle is a personal duty rifle, I wanted something that was sufficiently accurate out of the box that I could upgrade over time.
It has exceeded my expectations. It is a VERY accurate rifle. It was a very good shooter with the x mark pro adjusted to 3.5 lbs.
What I have done so far:
replaced the trigger with an original, early 90's 700 trigger tuned to 3.5lbs.
XLR chassis system (very nice system)
Side bolt release installed
Tac Bolt knob installed
Barrel threaded for suppressor.
The 5R barrel does not make it more accurate, but it does not foul much and clean up (when I eventually do it) is a breeze. Very close to the Lothar-Walther barrel on my Savage.
It is right at a .5 moa rifle, the trigger monkey is the problem, not the rifle.
I do plan on replacing the barrel and having the action trued, but I am in no hurry. This is WHY I chose the 5R. The rifle is absolutely accurate enough for the task, but I desire to end up with a semi-custom.
The action is smoother than my .223 SPS Tactical.
A 5R is an excellent choice, out of the box, it really leaves very little to be desired.
IF you have the money, shipping an action off to Hart would certainly result in a better rifle. I have seen them in action, they are real hammers. A base, short action SPS with a sporter barrel is about 540, a B&C M40 stock is about 220, hart barrel and install is 600 and change. That's 1360 plus shipping for the stock and back and forth to Hart.
I have a .308 5R.
I hemmed and hawed over buying the 5R or the SPS AAC Tac.
I went with the 5R for several reasons.
1. Stainless steel action and barrel
2. 5R rifling
3. They seemed to CONSISTENTLY be out of the box accurate
4. Comes in a very good stock
The rifle is a personal duty rifle, I wanted something that was sufficiently accurate out of the box that I could upgrade over time.
It has exceeded my expectations. It is a VERY accurate rifle. It was a very good shooter with the x mark pro adjusted to 3.5 lbs.
What I have done so far:
replaced the trigger with an original, early 90's 700 trigger tuned to 3.5lbs.
XLR chassis system (very nice system)
Side bolt release installed
Tac Bolt knob installed
Barrel threaded for suppressor.
The 5R barrel does not make it more accurate, but it does not foul much and clean up (when I eventually do it) is a breeze. Very close to the Lothar-Walther barrel on my Savage.
It is right at a .5 moa rifle, the trigger monkey is the problem, not the rifle.
I do plan on replacing the barrel and having the action trued, but I am in no hurry. This is WHY I chose the 5R. The rifle is absolutely accurate enough for the task, but I desire to end up with a semi-custom.
The action is smoother than my .223 SPS Tactical.
A 5R is an excellent choice, out of the box, it really leaves very little to be desired.
IF you have the money, shipping an action off to Hart would certainly result in a better rifle. I have seen them in action, they are real hammers. A base, short action SPS with a sporter barrel is about 540, a B&C M40 stock is about 220, hart barrel and install is 600 and change. That's 1360 plus shipping for the stock and back and forth to Hart.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I see them listed lately for 1079 on the internet. I was thinking about getting one myself in 300Win Mag.
I see them listed lately for 1079 on the internet. I was thinking about getting one myself in 300Win Mag.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Bought mine 6 weeks ago from a local shop $1094 out the door.
Bought mine 6 weeks ago from a local shop $1094 out the door.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
Rem 700 AAC-SD save the extra 500usd. 20"barrel, 1:10, threaded, aac blackout. Great rifle to build as you go. I went with AICS 2.0, Badger 20moa, Badger rings, HDMR, harris swivel bipod. You wont regret using it as your platform.
Rem 700 AAC-SD save the extra 500usd. 20"barrel, 1:10, threaded, aac blackout. Great rifle to build as you go. I went with AICS 2.0, Badger 20moa, Badger rings, HDMR, harris swivel bipod. You wont regret using it as your platform.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oham1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 AAC-SD save the extra 500usd. 20"barrel, 1:10, threaded, aac blackout. Great rifle to build as you go. I went with AICS 2.0, Badger 20moa, Badger rings, HDMR, harris swivel bipod. You wont regret using it as your platform. </div></div>
Even on GB the most of the AAC's are going for $699. Thats only 300-400 cheaper than a 5R. The 5R comes with HS stock, SS Action, and SS 5R barrel. That is a good deal for only that much more IMO considering a HS stock alone is over $300. Thats why I decided on the 5R instead or the AAC. Also as others mentioned they seem to be <span style="text-decoration: underline">consistently</span> accurate. Not like most other factory r700's including the AAC. If you search the internet its hard to find a single bad review on the 5R
If you want to upgrade to a chassi or a stock with DBM you can sell the HS stock and bottom metal off the 5R for around $300. It would be hard to give a Houge stock away as its hardly worth shipping. At that point you've basiclly paid the same for either 5R or AAC. If you're happier with the AAC thats cool...
Also I just saw a factory 5R <span style="font-weight: bold">take off</span> barrel sell for $270 on GB! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285500143
Even though it was a brand new barrel I bet a used one with low round count would sell well too.
I agree That the AAC would have looked more tempting if all the 5R were selling for $1300 like at one of my local shops. But at just over $1000 the 5R is a lot of gun for the money.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oham1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 AAC-SD save the extra 500usd. 20"barrel, 1:10, threaded, aac blackout. Great rifle to build as you go. I went with AICS 2.0, Badger 20moa, Badger rings, HDMR, harris swivel bipod. You wont regret using it as your platform. </div></div>
Even on GB the most of the AAC's are going for $699. Thats only 300-400 cheaper than a 5R. The 5R comes with HS stock, SS Action, and SS 5R barrel. That is a good deal for only that much more IMO considering a HS stock alone is over $300. Thats why I decided on the 5R instead or the AAC. Also as others mentioned they seem to be <span style="text-decoration: underline">consistently</span> accurate. Not like most other factory r700's including the AAC. If you search the internet its hard to find a single bad review on the 5R
If you want to upgrade to a chassi or a stock with DBM you can sell the HS stock and bottom metal off the 5R for around $300. It would be hard to give a Houge stock away as its hardly worth shipping. At that point you've basiclly paid the same for either 5R or AAC. If you're happier with the AAC thats cool...
Also I just saw a factory 5R <span style="font-weight: bold">take off</span> barrel sell for $270 on GB! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=285500143
Even though it was a brand new barrel I bet a used one with low round count would sell well too.
I agree That the AAC would have looked more tempting if all the 5R were selling for $1300 like at one of my local shops. But at just over $1000 the 5R is a lot of gun for the money.
Re: rem700 5r way overpriced?
I agree with cox. I built on my 700 5R all I had to do was add an Accuracy International AX chassis and replaced the X-Mark trigger with a Jewel. Now I have a great shooting rifle that feels awesome when you get behind it to squeeze off rounds. All said I'm into the rifle package for around $2500. Not a bad price for this little gem. Plus I'm going to try to sell the new never used HS stock and bottom metal for $300 shipped.
I agree with cox. I built on my 700 5R all I had to do was add an Accuracy International AX chassis and replaced the X-Mark trigger with a Jewel. Now I have a great shooting rifle that feels awesome when you get behind it to squeeze off rounds. All said I'm into the rifle package for around $2500. Not a bad price for this little gem. Plus I'm going to try to sell the new never used HS stock and bottom metal for $300 shipped.
