I may be replacing some factory triggers on my Rem 700(s). Anyone had much luck in working-over the original X-Mark Pro triggers? Most folks that I know has opted for aftermarket. I don't shoot competition, but I'd like a reliable, safe, reasonable trigger. ??????
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Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I installed a Timney 510 trigger in my 700 and it's a big improvement over the Xmark.
I installed a Timney 510 trigger in my 700 and it's a big improvement over the Xmark.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I have 3 40x triggers, one reworked old style 700 trigger (available from Brownells still I believe), and have shot Timney and Rifle Basix on bolt rifles. Really like the Rifle basix that was on a Savage for the money. Easy install and cheaper than having an old 700 trigger worked over.
This stated, I like my triggers to sit around 3.5 lbs and I hate creep. They are heavy enough since my rifles double between hunting and target, but clean and smooth. With that weight, I still get several 10 rd groups around .75 and 5 rnds a good bit under .5. Just lots of practice with the ones I use.
I have 3 40x triggers, one reworked old style 700 trigger (available from Brownells still I believe), and have shot Timney and Rifle Basix on bolt rifles. Really like the Rifle basix that was on a Savage for the money. Easy install and cheaper than having an old 700 trigger worked over.
This stated, I like my triggers to sit around 3.5 lbs and I hate creep. They are heavy enough since my rifles double between hunting and target, but clean and smooth. With that weight, I still get several 10 rd groups around .75 and 5 rnds a good bit under .5. Just lots of practice with the ones I use.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I think it's just plain eaiser to go with something like the Timney or Shilen. Drop it in and forget about it.
I think it's just plain eaiser to go with something like the Timney or Shilen. Drop it in and forget about it.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Some smiths can work wonders on a stock trigger for about $40. unless you're going to be competing then that kind of trigger job would be well worth it.
Some smiths can work wonders on a stock trigger for about $40. unless you're going to be competing then that kind of trigger job would be well worth it.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
shilen for less than 100
shilen for less than 100
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I have an xmark in 5r and hate it. My smith and others hav told me that it cannot be made comparable to my teeaked old style remmy that im comparin to. So in process of installin timney.
I have an xmark in 5r and hate it. My smith and others hav told me that it cannot be made comparable to my teeaked old style remmy that im comparin to. So in process of installin timney.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
The 40x on my 700 XCR Compact Tactical is money right out of the box. I don't plan to change a thing.
The 40x on my 700 XCR Compact Tactical is money right out of the box. I don't plan to change a thing.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I have been looking at the Timney for my R700. Most sites say it comes in at 3#, but how easy is it to adjust it down from there, to say 2#?
I have been looking at the Timney for my R700. Most sites say it comes in at 3#, but how easy is it to adjust it down from there, to say 2#?
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Surprised nobody has brought up Jewell yet. I'm looking in to one for my 5R...although they are quite a bit pricier. I'm having some difficultly locating them though...every place I have checked was out!
Surprised nobody has brought up Jewell yet. I'm looking in to one for my 5R...although they are quite a bit pricier. I'm having some difficultly locating them though...every place I have checked was out!
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I had good luck gettin a smith to tune an x mark down to 3 lbs but if i was to do it over I would have gone ahead and bought a jewel. I have jewels in my other three rifles and love the feel of them.
I had good luck gettin a smith to tune an x mark down to 3 lbs but if i was to do it over I would have gone ahead and bought a jewel. I have jewels in my other three rifles and love the feel of them.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I just picked up my XCR LRT 300WM R700 from my smith getting a Brake installed, and had him do a $60 Trigger tune on my 40x, it was like night and day diffrence, took it to a extremely smooth 2.75lbs and its amazing. He said they can work wonders on 40x, but the new XMark are workable, but no where near as workable as the 40x, he recommended just going a Timney on X-Mark pro's.
I just picked up my XCR LRT 300WM R700 from my smith getting a Brake installed, and had him do a $60 Trigger tune on my 40x, it was like night and day diffrence, took it to a extremely smooth 2.75lbs and its amazing. He said they can work wonders on 40x, but the new XMark are workable, but no where near as workable as the 40x, he recommended just going a Timney on X-Mark pro's.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaverickPS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been looking at the Timney for my R700. Most sites say it comes in at 3#, but how easy is it to adjust it down from there, to say 2#? </div></div>
Loosen nut, adjust weight set screw to desired setting, tighten lock nut...and enjoy.
I put a Timney in my 700 over the winter and I'll never go back to an x-mark ever again even on new rifles it will be replaced.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaverickPS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been looking at the Timney for my R700. Most sites say it comes in at 3#, but how easy is it to adjust it down from there, to say 2#? </div></div>
Loosen nut, adjust weight set screw to desired setting, tighten lock nut...and enjoy.
I put a Timney in my 700 over the winter and I'll never go back to an x-mark ever again even on new rifles it will be replaced.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
My custom has the old Rem trigger group really worked to a 2 1/4# job... no creep over travel and moves a total of 1/16" when pulled. The safety functions and is smoother than alot of after market assemblies I've tried. It only cost $60 but he actually disassembled the entire thing and reworked angles and polished instead of trying to get by with just making adjustments like alot will do. Way cheaper and great work if you find a good smith.
My custom has the old Rem trigger group really worked to a 2 1/4# job... no creep over travel and moves a total of 1/16" when pulled. The safety functions and is smoother than alot of after market assemblies I've tried. It only cost $60 but he actually disassembled the entire thing and reworked angles and polished instead of trying to get by with just making adjustments like alot will do. Way cheaper and great work if you find a good smith.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
All mine have either the old style Remy or Jewel triggers. The Jewels are probably smoother but more spendy. Pretty hard to beat a old style Remington trigger that is tuned up, very crisp with no creep.
All mine have either the old style Remy or Jewel triggers. The Jewels are probably smoother but more spendy. Pretty hard to beat a old style Remington trigger that is tuned up, very crisp with no creep.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
On a budget I'd reach for a Timney, no budget a Jewel.
On a budget I'd reach for a Timney, no budget a Jewel.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cproflow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised nobody has brought up Jewell yet. I'm looking in to one for my 5R...although they are quite a bit pricier. I'm having some difficultly locating them though...every place I have checked was out!</div></div>
I have a Jewell in my LTR and it is SWEET. No creep, nice and crisp. I'll not be looking for anything else.
I have read on here, though, that supposedly the Timneys are better in terms of reliability in dusty environments and all that. But I'll stick with the Jewell until I have a problem.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cproflow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised nobody has brought up Jewell yet. I'm looking in to one for my 5R...although they are quite a bit pricier. I'm having some difficultly locating them though...every place I have checked was out!</div></div>
I have a Jewell in my LTR and it is SWEET. No creep, nice and crisp. I'll not be looking for anything else.
I have read on here, though, that supposedly the Timneys are better in terms of reliability in dusty environments and all that. But I'll stick with the Jewell until I have a problem.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pupdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2 stage trigger = CG xtreme </div></div>
+1, great trigger.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pupdawg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2 stage trigger = CG xtreme </div></div>
+1, great trigger.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Go with the Timney. I got mine about 6 weeks ago and it finally turned out to be the trigger that I have always attempted to tweak my factory triggers into. I love it, especially for the price.
Go with the Timney. I got mine about 6 weeks ago and it finally turned out to be the trigger that I have always attempted to tweak my factory triggers into. I love it, especially for the price.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Older 40x is great. The new X-Mark are trash. I started buying Rifle Basix and swapping them out.
Older 40x is great. The new X-Mark are trash. I started buying Rifle Basix and swapping them out.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: montgomery627</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Older 40x is great. The new X-Mark are trash. I started buying Rifle Basix and swapping them out.</div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: montgomery627</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Older 40x is great. The new X-Mark are trash. I started buying Rifle Basix and swapping them out.</div></div>
+1
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
i just installed a Timney 510 in my 700 AAC as well, set at 2.5lbs. What a huge difference over the original trigger. I've only been able to play with snap caps so far since i can't get to the range til this weekend, but i already feel a MUCH more consistant break every shot over the x-mark.
i noticed with my X-mark that sometimes i'd have to pull the trigger normall and sometimes it would go off way lighter. I haven't had that happen so far with the timney.
i just installed a Timney 510 in my 700 AAC as well, set at 2.5lbs. What a huge difference over the original trigger. I've only been able to play with snap caps so far since i can't get to the range til this weekend, but i already feel a MUCH more consistant break every shot over the x-mark.
i noticed with my X-mark that sometimes i'd have to pull the trigger normall and sometimes it would go off way lighter. I haven't had that happen so far with the timney.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J Blaze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I installed a Timney 510 trigger in my 700 and it's a big improvement over the Xmark. </div></div>
+1 on the timney. i cant stress enough. . . TOOTSIE POP! but seriously, for the money, its well worth it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J Blaze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I installed a Timney 510 trigger in my 700 and it's a big improvement over the Xmark. </div></div>
+1 on the timney. i cant stress enough. . . TOOTSIE POP! but seriously, for the money, its well worth it.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Despite having a Jewell trigger for my rifle, honestly (with his intentions) having smithwork done on his factory setup would be money well spent if he found the right smith. But when money is no issue, get the best. If you can't tell, Jewell is a favorite around here. Timney is another good choice. I haven't had any experience with those others mentioned but I'm sure anyone owning them would be very satisfied.
Despite having a Jewell trigger for my rifle, honestly (with his intentions) having smithwork done on his factory setup would be money well spent if he found the right smith. But when money is no issue, get the best. If you can't tell, Jewell is a favorite around here. Timney is another good choice. I haven't had any experience with those others mentioned but I'm sure anyone owning them would be very satisfied.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
i had never understood why so many people hated the x-mark until i replaced it with a shilen.
i had never understood why so many people hated the x-mark until i replaced it with a shilen.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
carefully adjusting your sear and return spring can make your stock trigger very usable, however I have a Jewell and a Timney and I have to say they are great! and I love the ease of adjustment on my jewell! Cant go wrong with a good aftermarket trigger.
carefully adjusting your sear and return spring can make your stock trigger very usable, however I have a Jewell and a Timney and I have to say they are great! and I love the ease of adjustment on my jewell! Cant go wrong with a good aftermarket trigger.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cproflow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised nobody has brought up Jewell yet. I'm looking in to one for my 5R...although they are quite a bit pricier. I'm having some difficultly locating them though...every place I have checked was out! </div></div>I have 3 rifles with jewells in em. Broke one today due to piereced primer. Great for target and BR but not so in field rifles. I think rifle basix or timney for me right now. Or hmmm huber. Good luck
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cproflow</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Surprised nobody has brought up Jewell yet. I'm looking in to one for my 5R...although they are quite a bit pricier. I'm having some difficultly locating them though...every place I have checked was out! </div></div>I have 3 rifles with jewells in em. Broke one today due to piereced primer. Great for target and BR but not so in field rifles. I think rifle basix or timney for me right now. Or hmmm huber. Good luck
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J Blaze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I installed a Timney 510 trigger in my 700 and it's a big improvement over the Xmark. </div></div>
Ditto here for my 5R. I couldn't do a thing with the Xmark.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J Blaze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I installed a Timney 510 trigger in my 700 and it's a big improvement over the Xmark. </div></div>
Ditto here for my 5R. I couldn't do a thing with the Xmark.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
We replace the X-Mark on a 700 we bought two years ago with a Timney...it was crap.
But I have to say...I was waiting for a lane at the range a couple of months ago and the owner was trying to sell me a 700 SPS AAC-SD, and kept bugging me to pull the trigger...it was the X-Mark Pro, and I will say, it had a pretty clean break and it was much better than the old X-Mark.
We replace the X-Mark on a 700 we bought two years ago with a Timney...it was crap.
But I have to say...I was waiting for a lane at the range a couple of months ago and the owner was trying to sell me a 700 SPS AAC-SD, and kept bugging me to pull the trigger...it was the X-Mark Pro, and I will say, it had a pretty clean break and it was much better than the old X-Mark.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
The stock trigger in my remmy is good for a factory trigger. its got a clean break, and no overtravel. It is heavy for precision shooting however.
The stock trigger in my remmy is good for a factory trigger. its got a clean break, and no overtravel. It is heavy for precision shooting however.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Boltgunlvr,
On a shoestring budget, I would buy a tuned stock older trigger. I have a timney, Jewell, and several old 40 x triggers. The Jewell trigger is amazing as can be expected. I was able to adjust the 40x triggers to the point where most people could not tell the difference between the Jewell and the tuned Remington triggers. That is not to say that there is not a difference.
Boltgunlvr,
On a shoestring budget, I would buy a tuned stock older trigger. I have a timney, Jewell, and several old 40 x triggers. The Jewell trigger is amazing as can be expected. I was able to adjust the 40x triggers to the point where most people could not tell the difference between the Jewell and the tuned Remington triggers. That is not to say that there is not a difference.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I called Rifle Basix, ordered a trigger with a custom pull weight, and had it in 48 hrs. I have two. They are awesome. I also love the Jewell in my buddy's wsm tho...
For hunting, how about a set trigger?
I called Rifle Basix, ordered a trigger with a custom pull weight, and had it in 48 hrs. I have two. They are awesome. I also love the Jewell in my buddy's wsm tho...
For hunting, how about a set trigger?
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Try a Shilen. I have Timneys and professionally adjusted factory triggers, but the Shilens are the best in my opinion.
Try a Shilen. I have Timneys and professionally adjusted factory triggers, but the Shilens are the best in my opinion.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
i have a timney and am very happy with it, never had any troubles with it either
i have a timney and am very happy with it, never had any troubles with it either
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
Had a couple timneys, great, easy to install and adjust, zero issues. Available in flat too if that's your bag, the one I've fired felt great.
For a 2 stage I have a Huber in a gap, great trigger as well, but considerably more expensive and its a very different feel than a single stage.
Had a couple timneys, great, easy to install and adjust, zero issues. Available in flat too if that's your bag, the one I've fired felt great.
For a 2 stage I have a Huber in a gap, great trigger as well, but considerably more expensive and its a very different feel than a single stage.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
I bought an older 700 trigger and learned how to tune them myself, got it to break like a glass rod a 3 pounds, no creep or overtravel.
Not very hard to learn and the knowledge gained can serve you well.
I bought an older 700 trigger and learned how to tune them myself, got it to break like a glass rod a 3 pounds, no creep or overtravel.
Not very hard to learn and the knowledge gained can serve you well.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
schillen, i can get the non BR model down sweet and low.
schillen, i can get the non BR model down sweet and low.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
This may sound like a dumb question, but my only Remington 700 is the 700P MLR in .338 LM (I am a Winchester guy but they do not make a .338 LM and I got the Remington on a great deal)
My question is how do I know what trigger is in the gun right now. There is no info on the 700P MLR on Remingtons web site and the manual is not specific on the finer points of the rifle. Hell I do not even now what the barrel twist on it is. I figure that there must be some marking or other means to determine which trigger I have. Or should I just put a Timney in it and call it good?
I should point out that the trigger is "OK" but not great, I have no experience with the 40X trigger so I have no real point of reference to compare the trigger in my 700 to other than my Winchester triggers that I feel are much superior to the trigger in my 700.
This may sound like a dumb question, but my only Remington 700 is the 700P MLR in .338 LM (I am a Winchester guy but they do not make a .338 LM and I got the Remington on a great deal)
My question is how do I know what trigger is in the gun right now. There is no info on the 700P MLR on Remingtons web site and the manual is not specific on the finer points of the rifle. Hell I do not even now what the barrel twist on it is. I figure that there must be some marking or other means to determine which trigger I have. Or should I just put a Timney in it and call it good?
I should point out that the trigger is "OK" but not great, I have no experience with the 40X trigger so I have no real point of reference to compare the trigger in my 700 to other than my Winchester triggers that I feel are much superior to the trigger in my 700.
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
The older X-mark is not adjustable (which is what I have). Do yourself a favor and don't even dink with it. Order a new trigger. You can't go wrong.
Midway has them on sale right now for the 510 and its cheaper shipping than what you can get from Timney direct.
-JD-
The older X-mark is not adjustable (which is what I have). Do yourself a favor and don't even dink with it. Order a new trigger. You can't go wrong.
Midway has them on sale right now for the 510 and its cheaper shipping than what you can get from Timney direct.
-JD-
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I've just ordered a jewel. With what i've spent on gun and scope, mounts etc, i thought i best finish it off properly
I've just ordered a jewel. With what i've spent on gun and scope, mounts etc, i thought i best finish it off properly
Re: Opinions on Rem 700 triggers.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craven Morehead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This may sound like a dumb question, but my only Remington 700 is the 700P MLR in .338 LM (I am a Winchester guy but they do not make a .338 LM and I got the Remington on a great deal)
My question is how do I know what trigger is in the gun right now. There is no info on the 700P MLR on Remingtons web site and the manual is not specific on the finer points of the rifle. Hell I do not even now what the barrel twist on it is. I figure that there must be some marking or other means to determine which trigger I have. Or should I just put a Timney in it and call it good?
I should point out that the trigger is "OK" but not great, I have no experience with the 40X trigger so I have no real point of reference to compare the trigger in my 700 to other than my Winchester triggers that I feel are much superior to the trigger in my 700. </div></div>
the 40x is black, has grooves, and there is a small adjustment screw just ahead of the base of the trigger. the x-mark pro is shiny, smooth, and i think the adjustment screw is right in the base of the trigger. if you google 40x and then go to images there are several pictures of the contraption.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Craven Morehead</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This may sound like a dumb question, but my only Remington 700 is the 700P MLR in .338 LM (I am a Winchester guy but they do not make a .338 LM and I got the Remington on a great deal)
My question is how do I know what trigger is in the gun right now. There is no info on the 700P MLR on Remingtons web site and the manual is not specific on the finer points of the rifle. Hell I do not even now what the barrel twist on it is. I figure that there must be some marking or other means to determine which trigger I have. Or should I just put a Timney in it and call it good?
I should point out that the trigger is "OK" but not great, I have no experience with the 40X trigger so I have no real point of reference to compare the trigger in my 700 to other than my Winchester triggers that I feel are much superior to the trigger in my 700. </div></div>
the 40x is black, has grooves, and there is a small adjustment screw just ahead of the base of the trigger. the x-mark pro is shiny, smooth, and i think the adjustment screw is right in the base of the trigger. if you google 40x and then go to images there are several pictures of the contraption.
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