SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

[breachersup]

I'd like to get an M1a as a battle rifle and the Springfield Armory Scout Squad appeals to me because of overall size, wieght, and cost. (not particularly interested in a SCAR Heavy or AR-10 right now)

Here is a link to a picture of it on their website: Scout Squad rifle

I've already got a Yankee Hills Machine Phantom 7.62 suppressor (threaded 5/8 x 24), and would like to be able to use it on whatever .308 battle rifle I wind up getting.

<span style="font-weight: bold">My primary question here, to those who know more about this stuff than I, is as follows: </span> is this scout squad a good choice for an m1a rifle to put said suppressor on?

I'm asking because I loosely grasp the concept that I don't get to just unsrew the flash hider and toss my suppressor onto exposed threads like on an armalite AR-10 for example, but rather, I need to take off the whole front sight base, put on a new front sight base with 5/8 x 24 threads, get a front sight post back on there correctly lined up, and find something to use for a thread protector when I'm not running suppressed.

So is there another factory m14 out there that doesnt take so many steps to put on a suppressor threaded 5/8 x 24, or not? Answers to that question and any other relevant advice is more than welcome. I don't get offended by baby-steps, barny-style here, because I dont have the first clue about gunsmithing, or M1A rifles, or suppressors for that matter. I just know that I've got a suppressor, and I'd like to have a silenced M1a while I'm at it.

Thanks in advance all.

 

[diver9]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

i love that setup for the m14 and im very interested to hear the responses!

 

[monsterchevy]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

I don't have any suppressors on my M1A's because I live in CA, but I have heard that there is significant blowback when shooting suppressed with the M1A. Ive shot AR's suppressed but haven't had the opportunity to shoot the M1A with one. Personally, I would have them on everything if I could. Just where your glasses!
Travis

 

[geevee35]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

Breachers Up, I would strongly suggest you talk to Byron at Delta P design re: your questions on the scout squad. Byron is very knowledgeable and friendly guy.

http://www.deltapdesign.com/

 

[Ianski]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

If you are looking for something compact the Scout is the best option. I had a SOCOM for a while and it was great, but the muzzle break is incorporated into the gas block. The scout is still nice and compact while still having the muzzle break separate from the gas block which will let you use a can

 

[monsterchevy]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

You can get a new gas lock from Smith Enterprises for the socom that allows it to take anything with 5/8-24 threads. I have one on mine with their good iron break and have their vortex flash suppressor for when I'm not in CA.
Travis

 

[breachersup]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TacticalDuc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't have any suppressors on my M1A's because I live in CA, but I have heard that there is significant blowback when shooting suppressed with the M1A. Ive shot AR's suppressed but haven't had the opportunity to shoot the M1A with one. Personally, I would have them on everything if I could. Just where your glasses!
Travis </div></div>

Yeah I see some conversation on Sniper's Hide about a "breech cover" - something that looks like it attaches by a side scope mount and goes over the breech. Im wondering if that is a clumsy thing that's just one more thing to potentially impede function when you're not running suppressed or if it's no big deal.

Also wondering if the Yankee Hills Machine (YHM) suppressor I mentioned that I have is not favorable to semi-autos. (Got a buddy who was just like "oh hey man, I think that's a high pressure silencer and only good on bolt action rifles")

 

[breachersup]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: geevee35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Breachers Up, I would strongly suggest you talk to Byron at Delta P design re: your questions on the scout squad. Byron is very knowledgeable and friendly guy.

http://www.deltapdesign.com/ </div></div>

Will do Geevee. Thank you very much for the info.

 

[breachersup]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ianski</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are looking for something compact the Scout is the best option. I had a SOCOM for a while and it was great, but the muzzle break is incorporated into the gas block. The scout is still nice and compact while still having the muzzle break separate from the gas block which will let you use a can

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Woah. That's encouraging to hear. I was under the impression that the muzzle break on that scout was all attached to the gas block and front sight like the standard issue m14 style. So is that muzzle break on the scout squad (visible in the link that I included in my original post) threaded onto threads 5/8 x 24? (I guess I could just call Springfield Armory and ask, but i'm thinking out loud here.)

If it is just threaded on there, that makes life alot easier as far as not having to take all that stuff apart and have it put back together just to have threads to put a silencer on.

 

[33shooter]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

I had a suppressed scout, and wouldn't recommend it as a suppressor host. I sold my scout for that reason. I used a Delta P Designs adaptor on my AAC 762SD brake and had a light end cap strike. The gun was loud and gas blowback was terrible.

You'll want the blank adaptor breech cover that was discussed above. It'll help with blowback. The M1A just isn't a great gun suppressed, but it looked cool. YHM makes a M1A mount that should fix you needing an adaptor.

The delta P adaptor worked, I believe the Scouts threads were not concentric to the bore.

 

[kmcintosh78]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

I believe that shooting the M1A suppressed turns it into a single shot gun. You have to charge the Op Rod after every shot.

 

[monsterchevy]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kmcintosh78</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe that shooting the M1A suppressed turns it into a single shot gun. You have to charge the Op Rod after every shot.
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Negative. Shooting subsonics through most semi autos you have to manually operate the action. However, if shooting supersonic rounds, it will function fine. I need to get out of CA.
Travis

 

[breachersup]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 33shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The M1A just isn't a great gun suppressed, but it looked cool. YHM makes a M1A mount that should fix you needing an adaptor.
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Fair enough. Thank you for the straightforward advice. Yeah so maybe I should decide if this is a rilfe I want for all other reasons besides shooting it suppressed.

 

[33shooter]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

That would be my recommendation. I bought my scout with the intention of slapping the can and a scope on it. I should have bought a gun with those things in mind and not the gun that looked cool. It is a fine gun, don't get me wrong, it's just not really made for that.

An AR-10 type gun is much better suited for that. I think the Sig716 is similarly priced to the SA Scout Squad and would fit the bill nicely.

 

[33shooter]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

Oh, and you don't have a "high pressure silencer". Your friend is full of it, there is no such animal. A silencer is just like a muffler on a car.

 

[DavidAR10]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

ARMALITE's 4th of July Sale is about to begin.

A 16" or 20" chrome-lined barrel AR-10A4 will out shoot a NM SA M1A, twice on Sundays, 99.XX% of the time.

ARMALITE has had the 20" AR-10A4 upper @ $650 plus S&H $12 to your front door, just like pizza, for about 1/2 a decade. The 16" pops up once in a blue moon. Go 20", you have the choice of 10.5"-16" 6.8 x 43 for the short stuff. ;^ )

Do the right thang.

 

[Lima Bravo]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 33shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That would be my recommendation. I bought my scout with the intention of slapping the can and a scope on it. I should have bought a gun with those things in mind and not the gun that looked cool. It is a fine gun, don't get me wrong, it's just not really made for that.

An AR-10 type gun is much better suited for that. I think the Sig716 is similarly priced to the SA Scout Squad and would fit the bill nicely. </div></div>

+1, go AR 10. I did the whole scope a M1A thing, spent a bunch of cash to get it right and still couldn't hit the side of a barn! I don't have any experience suppressed with M1A's but I know you can do any of the above with an AR 10 much cheaper and easier + you can actuall get an accurate rifle off the shelf

 

[bribassguy]

Re: SA M1A scout squad-good to choice to suppress?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: geevee35</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Breachers Up, I would strongly suggest you talk to Byron at Delta P design re: your questions on the scout squad. Byron is very knowledgeable and friendly guy.

http://www.deltapdesign.com/</div></div>

Is he the dude in the half zipped white hoodie?

 

[bribassguy]

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Opps forgot the link:

http://www.deltapdesign.com/product-images/762/A---IMG_5139.jpg