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Grendel Distance?

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I have been on here for a couple months asking about Grendels and I keep getting different answer on what the round can do. I am looking for what the max distance you can shoot accurately? In other words how far can you hit a target 6" in diameter 10/10 times? I understand I have to do my part in it too.

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I am not sure who that is but I am guessing he is good. In either case I am asking for your everyday shooter that is on this forum. Again I understand I have to do my part.

I had my barrel coated today he said 600yrds and I think that is pretty low.
 
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I would have to think that 600 is on the low side of max distance for the Grendel. Shooting that 6" target at ones max distance might be a challenge but I can say that I have been able to shoot 1.5" to 2" groups repeatably at 300 from my 24" barrel. Took a few shots at 400 working on my dope but ran out of time to get dialed in before the range closed. Plan on stretching out to 500 next time to the range. We will see what I can hold at that distance and will post it up if you don't have anyone else chime in before then.
 
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I shoot regularly out to 400 yards with great accuracy 3 inch groups, this weekend I am taking it out to 975 Yards, I will be using it this year for Antelope, and by the way mine is only a 18 inch barrel
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top rifle is the grendel
 
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Mine is good at least to 800 (bolt gun I built). It drops a ton at that distance, so you better have a lot of adjustment in your scope.

To really answer your question, you need to tell us what bullet as the BC plays a big part of the question.
 
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Gas or bolt gun? Shooting from a bench or off the top of a spool? Any wind?

You gotta think, 1 MOA at 600 is 6". You aim center of a 6" plate and you could miss a lot of the time because you've only got 3 inches in any direction.
 
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I've seen one at a 1000 yd BR match and he did allright for his gear. And at the 600 yd BR he won factory class. Les baer gas gun. Scratch this if this is a different cartridge as the 6.5 LBC. I think they are the same round if I'm not mistaken. Good luck
 
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Me and my 20" Grendel do fine at 600 meters. But 10/10 on a 6" plate at that distance? Not me. I can do 8/10 on a 14" plate.

I'm sure there are shooters who can meet your criteria at 600 yards with a Grendel, but I need more practice for that.

FYI - a 123gr A-max is down 19 moa at that range. Not bad, and the high BC bullets buck the wind pretty well, but keep in mind that I'm only seeing 1500 fps at 600 yards.

Many Grendel loads are going transonic out near 1000 yards, and accuracy suffers when that happens.

I can shoot the 6.5 LBC rounds in my Grendel.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: gnhowell1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Gas or bolt gun? Shooting from a bench or off the top of a spool? Any wind?

You gotta think, 1 MOA at 600 is 6". You aim center of a 6" plate and you could miss a lot of the time because you've only got 3 inches in any direction.

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Yep 1/2MOA is needed to connect on a 6" plate at 600yds 10 out of 10. I would say that is the limit.
 
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Agreed, and you better hope the wind isn't kicking.
 
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I guess I thought it was more powerful than 600yards. 50 cal here I come!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eracer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Me and my 20" Grendel do fine at 600 meters. But 10/10 on a 6" plate at that distance? Not me. I can do 8/10 on a 14" plate.

I'm sure there are shooters who can meet your criteria at 600 yards with a Grendel, but I need more practice for that.

FYI - a 123gr A-max is down 19 moa at that range. Not bad, and the high BC bullets buck the wind pretty well, but keep in mind that I'm only seeing 1500 fps at 600 yards.

Many Grendel loads are going transonic out near 1000 yards, and accuracy suffers when that happens.

I can shoot the 6.5 LBC rounds in my Grendel. </div></div>

19 moa? mine is at 16.5 MOA at 600 yards and is still at 1625 with factory hornady 123 a max loads, my hand loads with 123 Amax im at 15.6 MOA and sill at 1666 FPS at 600. my rifle is under a 1/2 MOA rifle I shoot ground hogs just about every day on our farm 400-500 yards out, I only missed 2 so far this year that was from 20-25 MPH winds. mine should be supersonic till around 1100 yards, as far as 10/10 on a 6 inch plate 500 yards would probably be my MAX with no wind, I didnt pick up on how to read wind "yet" Im a decent shot but far from pro I do pull them every now and then, my rifle will outshoot me anyday.

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The grendel is no .50 cal, but it is a great little round. Its just like any other gun, if you know your rifle & how it shoots then you will make hits. If you dont know it or havnt had enough trigger time you will not. Same goes with a .50 cal or any other rifle. The grendel is a great round for what it is, it shoot very well for a small package! Im very pleased with mine.
 
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With a great build, it is all about individual skill level---if u have shot a 223 at a 1000, u will appreciate a 6.5 G
 
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Dont get me wrong I am going to shoot a "few" rounds when I get her done but I was just expecting more I guess. To be honest it seems like the round is extremely similar to the .223/5.56 but 5x as expensive. I guess I am going to see how much I like it and then make my final decision.

If it is that close I am not going to spend $1 everytime I pull the trigger. I will finish building my sweet little 22lr for fun and get a big boy (.338 or 50cal) when I want to shoot across the neighbors cornfield (600-1000yards). I know those bullet are really expensive but how many time do you really try to shoot 600 yards plus? For me it will be very little, maybe one time a month. Maybe it will be more the farther I get into target it shooting.
 
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I shoot a 24" AA upper on a colt lower and I can do around .6" @ 100 yds pretty consistently with 123 gr amax factory ammo, I have shot it @ 750 yds and have done many 4" to 8" 5 rd groups on calm wind days ( 2-3 mph ) on a 1'x1' metal plate. MV is around 2510 fps in my upper according to my inexpensive chronograph.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JMT38S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 24" AA upper on a colt lower and I can do around .6" @ 100 yds pretty consistently with 123 gr amax factory ammo, I have shot it @ 750 yds and have done many 4" to 8" 5 rd groups on calm wind days ( 2-3 mph ) on a 1'x1' metal plate. MV is around 2510 fps in my upper according to my inexpensive chronograph. </div></div>

Now that seems reasonable. Nice shooting by the way.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> To be honest it seems like the round is extremely similar to the .223/5.56 but 5x as expensive. </div></div>

Nope.
and
Nope.

Longer range ballistics and energy aren't even close. The 6.5 Grendel more closely resembles the .308's performance at range than the 5.56.

5x as expensive? How so? No more expensive to handload than any other caliber, Wolf factory ammo is about $15 box...
 
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I love my grendel, I shoot 500 meters at the farthest and just ordered 1k rounds to have even more fun.. I tried reloading but for some odd reason I can't reload this damn round! better than a .223? you betcha..
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> To be honest it seems like the round is extremely similar to the .223/5.56 but 5x as expensive. </div></div>

Nope.
and
Nope.

Longer range ballistics and energy aren't even close. The 6.5 Grendel more closely resembles the .308's performance at range than the 5.56.

5x as expensive? How so? No more expensive to handload than any other caliber, Wolf factory ammo is about $15 box... </div></div>

600-750 yards is what I am hearing and people on here are shooting 1200+ with their 308s. That doesn't seem very close to me.

I am not going to shoot much wolf ammo. Hornady .223=$.35/rnd 6.5G=$.87/rnd.
Sorry...working on 3x.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Juanjo322</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I love my grendel, I shoot 500 meters at the farthest and just ordered 1k rounds to have even more fun.. I tried reloading but for some odd reason I can't reload this damn round! better than a .223? you betcha..

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500 is good times I am sure but don't you want to shoot farther? I want to shoot at least 1000 sooner or later.

I think it is a good round but is it worth 3x the $ in ammo. Hopefully I will find out next weekend! I have a few boxes sitting in the drawer waiting to hit some paper!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: lethal93ta</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eracer</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Me and my 20" Grendel do fine at 600 meters. But 10/10 on a 6" plate at that distance? Not me. I can do 8/10 on a 14" plate.

I'm sure there are shooters who can meet your criteria at 600 yards with a Grendel, but I need more practice for that.

FYI - a 123gr A-max is down 19 moa at that range. Not bad, and the high BC bullets buck the wind pretty well, but keep in mind that I'm only seeing 1500 fps at 600 yards.

Many Grendel loads are going transonic out near 1000 yards, and accuracy suffers when that happens.

I can shoot the 6.5 LBC rounds in my Grendel. </div></div>

19 moa? mine is at 16.5 MOA at 600 yards and is still at 1625 with factory hornady 123 a max loads, my hand loads with 123 Amax im at 15.6 MOA and sill at 1666 FPS at 600. my rifle is under a 1/2 MOA rifle I shoot ground hogs just about every day on our farm 400-500 yards out, I only missed 2 so far this year that was from 20-25 MPH winds. mine should be supersonic till around 1100 yards, as far as 10/10 on a 6 inch plate 500 yards would probably be my MAX with no wind, I didnt pick up on how to read wind "yet" Im a decent shot but far from pro I do pull them every now and then, my rifle will outshoot me anyday. </div></div>You obviously have a better rifle, and are a better shooter than me, sir.

As for my numbers. I chrono'd factory 123gr A-max and input the data into my Shooter app. The numbers are what they are out of my 20" barrel.
 
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I had a guy in my shop telling me he was shooting 1200-1500 yards with his Grendel, I got as good a laugh out of him as you just did.

I'm sure the Grendel is a fine 800-1000 yard gun. I shoot my 18" 5.56 to 1000 yards (when its calm, the wind is a cruel mistress) so I don't see why the Grendel would be any different.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">600-750 yards is what I am hearing and people on here are shooting 1200+ with their 308s. That doesn't seem very close to me.</div></div>You seem to be mixing some facts here, creating a stew of inaccuracies.

Can I shoot 1200 yards with my Grendel? Sure I can.
Can I shoot 10/10 on a 6" plate at 1000 yards? Nope. Is the round inherently capable of it? Absolutely.

Now show me who is reporting that kind of accuracy with a .308 @ 1200 yards.

I'm not sure what kind of argument you need Grendel owners to make here. Is the Grendel superior to the 5.56 at 600-800 yards. Without question.

Is the Grendel more expensive to shoot accurately at those yardages than 5.56? Definitely. But not by much if you handload.

What do you want? A rifle that will win F-class matches? Build an F-class gun, and pay.

You want an accurate rifle that will let you shoot all day long at 600-800 yards, with recoil similar to the 5.56, and far superior ballistics. Get a Grendel.

Want to beat your shoulder up to get 1000 yard work in cheaply (relative to an F-class gun, but about the same cost as a Grendel?) Get a .308 gun, or a .260, or a 6.5/.284, or a 7mm, or a ...
 
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The 556 is not even close to the Grendel. Have both and love both. Brass is only real diff in price for reloading unless you are using high dollar match bullets in one and not the other.
 
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I haven't shot my grendel much past 900 yds but it makes there faster than I can run to the targets.
 
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I shot my grendel(22" barrel) at the OTS battle in the canyons match in OK last year and hit the 1135 target, but thats as far as i ever pushed it. hitting 900 after that seemed simple.
 
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This round is what actually made me want an AR-15. The 6.5 Grendel/.264 LBC-AR is a fascinating round. Glad to hear there's a bunch of interest in it, more so than I remember from a few years ago.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dont get me wrong I am going to shoot a "few" rounds when I get her done but I was just expecting more I guess. To be honest it seems like the round is extremely similar to the .223/5.56 but 5x as expensive. I guess I am going to see how much I like it and then make my final decision.

If it is that close I am not going to spend $1 everytime I pull the trigger. I will finish building my sweet little 22lr for fun and get a big boy (.338 or 50cal) when I want to shoot across the neighbors cornfield (600-1000yards). I know those bullet are really expensive but how many time do you really try to shoot 600 yards plus? For me it will be very little, maybe one time a month. Maybe it will be more the farther I get into target it shooting.</div></div>

It isn't even close to the 5.56. The Grendel is my favorite rifle. I have a Satern barrel on mine and I can second what lethal93ta said. I get .33" groups at 100m. Funny thing is that I get the best results so far with the 100gr. AMAX, not the higher BC bullets.

I talked to Bill A. and he said to try either the 120gr. Bergers or Noslers (Berger I think). He said they work the best and he makes the damn thing so... I have the Noslers but haven't loaded them, meant to get the Bergers.

So mathematically it'll do about a 4" group at 1000m if I extend my 100m group. Ultimately it all comes down to MOA and that is dependent on BC... The 6.5G is about the most efficient round you can pack into an AR, that I've fired anyway. The only real drawback is that you can't run anything subsonic through it, but I got a .300BLK for that.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jeff1383</div><div class="ubbcode-body">THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE GRENDEL/LBC PORN!!!!!!!</div></div>

Oh, OK...

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JMT38S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 24" AA upper on a colt lower and I can do around .6" @ 100 yds pretty consistently with 123 gr amax factory ammo, I have shot it @ 750 yds and have done many 4" to 8" 5 rd groups on calm wind days ( 2-3 mph ) on a 1'x1' metal plate. MV is around 2510 fps in my upper according to my inexpensive chronograph. </div></div>

I also have a 24" AA upper and I shoot about the same. Longest range I have shot with the G is 1237yds (laser rangefinder. I also shoot 7.62 long range and the Grendel is easier for me when I'm shooting further than 800yds.

The Grendel is noticeably a better round for windy conditions, at least for my shill level.

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Unless you are buying rounds in bulk that are once fired or reloading, I don't see where the statements of 3x or 5x the cost to shoot the Grendel is coming from. Go on line and check. Most places that carry the Grendel round, you are able to get Hornady 123's for $18 a box of 20. Walk in to Cabela's, Bass Pro, Academy or even Dick's and pick up a box of Rem 55 gr SPS, cost is $18 to $20 a box of 20.

With the Grendel, you are going to get a better BC, heavier projectile and more versatile round that you can do so much more with at the ranges, in the field hunting or with whatever flavor of shooting that gets you going.

Just don't see where the argument is when it comes to cost. There are trade offs.

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The 123 grain Scenar load at 2550 FPS doesn't go transonic until around 1300-1400 yards. How far someone could hit a 6 inch disc would depend on so many factors I would hesitate to put out a guess. I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but here are some of the factors that would effect hitting the disc:

1. How well can the person shoot?
2. How accurate is the rifle?
3. How accurate is the ammo (consistent)?
4. How windy is it, and how well does the shooter read the wind?
5. What are the meteorological and environmental factors that would affect
how far the bullet travels before going transonic?
6. What kind of scope is being used? A 2x scope won't help much at 850
meters, while a 25X scope would be much better. Also, the quality of the
optics and system make a difference.
7. Will the rifle be shot from bench rest type position, or field type position?

Like any cartridge, the Grendel has it's benefits and problems. Although it is still supersonic at 1000 yards, the 123 grain bullet doesn't have as much energy as a 260 Remington. I'm a real fan of the Grendel cartridge and absoutely love it for practical rifle matches. It travels better and farther than a 5.56, but lacks the recoil of the 7.62x51. My Grendel has about 10-20% more recoil than the 5.56 (not much, barely noticeable), but seems to hit steel plates with about 80% the energy of a 7.62x51. So it is a great compromise. And for bucking wind, the 123 Scenar bullet is far better than either the 5.56x45 or the 7.62x51.

The amount of elevation adjustment either cartridge requires isn't an issue, because once I have to start adjusting, there isn't much more effort to adjust either 4 moa or 5.5 moa.

For whatever it is worth, my Grendel usually shoots .6-.75 moa. I get a number of .5 moa groups, but I get alot more in the .6-.75 range.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: eracer</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">600-750 yards is what I am hearing and people on here are shooting 1200+ with their 308s. That doesn't seem very close to me.</div></div>You seem to be mixing some facts here, creating a stew of inaccuracies.

Can I shoot 1200 yards with my Grendel? Sure I can.
Can I shoot 10/10 on a 6" plate at 1000 yards? Nope. Is the round inherently capable of it? Absolutely.

Now show me who is reporting that kind of accuracy with a .308 @ 1200 yards.

I'm not sure what kind of argument you need Grendel owners to make here. Is the Grendel superior to the 5.56 at 600-800 yards. Without question.

Is the Grendel more expensive to shoot accurately at those yardages than 5.56? Definitely. But not by much if you handload.

What do you want? A rifle that will win F-class matches? Build an F-class gun, and pay.

You want an accurate rifle that will let you shoot all day long at 600-800 yards, with recoil similar to the 5.56, and far superior ballistics. Get a Grendel.

Want to beat your shoulder up to get 1000 yard work in cheaply (relative to an F-class gun, but about the same cost as a Grendel?) Get a .308 gun, or a .260, or a 6.5/.284, or a 7mm, or a ... </div></div>

I never said the 308 would hit a 6" plate at 1200yrds. I just said they are hitting targets. Before anyone else posted on this it didnt seem like anyone was even shooting past 750 with their grendel.

I dont even know what F class is and to be honest I dont care. It is not like this build has been cheap. I think I have just over $2100 in the gun right now and I dont even have a scope on it yet. I could have bought a 50cal time it is all said and done.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mwilkins</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unless you are buying rounds in bulk that are once fired or reloading, I don't see where the statements of 3x or 5x the cost to shoot the Grendel is coming from. Go on line and check. Most places that carry the Grendel round, you are able to get Hornady 123's for $18 a box of 20. Walk in to Cabela's, Bass Pro, Academy or even Dick's and pick up a box of Rem 55 gr SPS, cost is $18 to $20 a box of 20.

With the Grendel, you are going to get a better BC, heavier projectile and more versatile round that you can do so much more with at the ranges, in the field hunting or with whatever flavor of shooting that gets you going.

Just don't see where the argument is when it comes to cost. There are trade offs.

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I dont know what Cabelas you are shopping at but I have one 2 miles from my house and they are $25 box for Grendel and $8 for .223. I would say that is 3x.

I could care less about hunting or BC. I just want to know how far people are shooting.

Nice stick by the way....what are the specs?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: madcratebuilder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JMT38S</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 24" AA upper on a colt lower and I can do around .6" @ 100 yds pretty consistently with 123 gr amax factory ammo, I have shot it @ 750 yds and have done many 4" to 8" 5 rd groups on calm wind days ( 2-3 mph ) on a 1'x1' metal plate. MV is around 2510 fps in my upper according to my inexpensive chronograph. </div></div>

I also have a 24" AA upper and I shoot about the same. Longest range I have shot with the G is 1237yds (laser rangefinder. I also shoot 7.62 long range and the Grendel is easier for me when I'm shooting further than 800yds.

The Grendel is noticeably a better round for windy conditions, at least for my shill level.

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How long is your barrel?...you say 24 but it looks much longer than mine! 12" or 15" handguards?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Nice stick by the way....what are the specs? </div></div>

Thanks.

Lower is a Stiller with Timney Skeletal 3lb trigger, KNS pins are now installed and tactical bolt release. PRS stock (obvious). Upper is AA with a LW 24" barrel. AA handguard and break. Scope mount is a JP holding a NF 5.5x22x56. FDE is the color applied by Precision Matters.

It's a shooter.
 
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Here is the rifle I mentioned above that gets .33" groups at 100m. 20" heavy Satern bbl., JP Ent. Tactical BC, Geissele High Speed SDM trigger, PRI adj. gas block, AAC Blackout, KAC FF rail. Used to sport an ACOG, now probably getting either a Vortex or something nicer in mil/mil in the 2.5-10x range. I really spared no cost; I guess it could have been more expensive, but I actually used the parts I wanted and built it myself.

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Absolutely my favorite rifle. Can't wait to get a new scope for it.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I dont know what Cabelas you are shopping at but I have one 2 miles from my house and they are $25 box for Grendel and $8 for .223. I would say that is 3x.
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Way to pick some numbers out of your ass and use it to support your argument. How about using ammo for each caliber that's comparable. Check this out right off of Cabela's site:

.223 Remington 75 Grain BTHP Regular Price: $19.99
6.5 Grendel 123 Grain A-Max Regular Price: $24.99

Not quite 3x when we are comparing ammo that might actually perform close to one another. Your example $8 box of .223 ammo will shoot 2-3 MOA at best.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Vinson</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Milan Metal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I dont know what Cabelas you are shopping at but I have one 2 miles from my house and they are $25 box for Grendel and $8 for .223. I would say that is 3x.
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Way to pick some numbers out of your ass and use it to support your argument. How about using ammo for each caliber that's comparable. Check this out right off of Cabela's site:

.223 Remington 75 Grain BTHP Regular Price: $19.99
6.5 Grendel 123 Grain A-Max Regular Price: $24.99

Not quite 3x when we are comparing ammo that might actually perform close to one another. Your example $8 box of .223 ammo will shoot 2-3 MOA at best. </div></div>

Not sure why those numbers are out of my ass.......you must be the know it all type.

That prices in for hornady Grendel rounds (that I have on my shelf) and for federal .223 rounds (there are 500 boxes sitting on a table as we speak). I can get $6 boxes of some crap rounds right next to it.

So let's go crap ammo then wolf Grendel 15 bucks and 5.29 for .223. Seems real close to 3x.

I am done arguing with you about something so stupid. You can shoot .223 waaaayy cheaper than Grendel and that is all I am saying.
 
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Then why did you build a rifle in 6.5 and start bitching about it before you've even shot it???? You're panties are all bunched up over what you've heard from outside sources. The ballistic data is there and people have shared their experiences with long distance shooting. I suggest finish it..shoot it...if you don't like it then buy a .338 or .50bmg then update us on your cost of ammo concerns.
 
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Here is a purple one I did for a buddys wife. Shes shooting it quite well too.
My lower
Side charge upper
My FF tube
Purple anodizing
2 stage trigger
Ergo delux grip
Vltor Imod stock
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