Suppressors Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
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Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
More than likely these Are not going to be available this year
More than likely these Are not going to be available this year
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
It is an SDN6 with a new mounting system and some cosmetic machining. The thing to wonder is why the new mounting system can't be attached to the SDN6 for the price of the SDN6?
It's high price tag is more likely associated with a niche market composed of a group of people who are willing to pay more to have the product associated with "new technology".
The mount may be better, or could be worse because there aren't enough floating around to draw conclusions from.
Pros:
lower angled tapered surface supposedly locks up the can with no need for ratchet teeth at all (apparently they were shooting it at SHOT with no locking device to prove it). (this begs the question why retain the locking device?)
More teeth mean less likelihood of loose cans.
Cons:
Finer teeth than the 51T mounts which are constantly wearing out already suggests this may be the most rapidly wearing mount yet.
Price (higher price for something that should cost no more than the 51T system to manufacture.)
It is an SDN6 with a new mounting system and some cosmetic machining. The thing to wonder is why the new mounting system can't be attached to the SDN6 for the price of the SDN6?
It's high price tag is more likely associated with a niche market composed of a group of people who are willing to pay more to have the product associated with "new technology".
The mount may be better, or could be worse because there aren't enough floating around to draw conclusions from.
Pros:
lower angled tapered surface supposedly locks up the can with no need for ratchet teeth at all (apparently they were shooting it at SHOT with no locking device to prove it). (this begs the question why retain the locking device?)
More teeth mean less likelihood of loose cans.
Cons:
Finer teeth than the 51T mounts which are constantly wearing out already suggests this may be the most rapidly wearing mount yet.
Price (higher price for something that should cost no more than the 51T system to manufacture.)
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is an SDN6 with a new mounting system and some cosmetic machining. The thing to wonder is why the new mounting system can't be attached to the SDN6 for the price of the SDN6?
It's high price tag is more likely associated with a niche market composed of a group of people who are willing to pay more to have the product associated with "new technology".
The mount may be better, or could be worse because there aren't enough floating around to draw conclusions from.
Pros:
lower angled tapered surface supposedly locks up the can with no need for ratchet teeth at all (apparently they were shooting it at SHOT with no locking device to prove it). (this begs the question why retain the locking device?)
More teeth mean less likelihood of loose cans.
Cons:
Finer teeth than the 51T mounts which are constantly wearing out already suggests this may be the most rapidly wearing mount yet.
Price (higher price for something that should cost no more than the 51T system to manufacture.)
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The big question I have is how hard will it be to get the can off the mount when its been heated and had a bunch of carbon foul it? The way it is designed I'm concerned it will be welded on after a few mags of ammo have been run through it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is an SDN6 with a new mounting system and some cosmetic machining. The thing to wonder is why the new mounting system can't be attached to the SDN6 for the price of the SDN6?
It's high price tag is more likely associated with a niche market composed of a group of people who are willing to pay more to have the product associated with "new technology".
The mount may be better, or could be worse because there aren't enough floating around to draw conclusions from.
Pros:
lower angled tapered surface supposedly locks up the can with no need for ratchet teeth at all (apparently they were shooting it at SHOT with no locking device to prove it). (this begs the question why retain the locking device?)
More teeth mean less likelihood of loose cans.
Cons:
Finer teeth than the 51T mounts which are constantly wearing out already suggests this may be the most rapidly wearing mount yet.
Price (higher price for something that should cost no more than the 51T system to manufacture.)
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The big question I have is how hard will it be to get the can off the mount when its been heated and had a bunch of carbon foul it? The way it is designed I'm concerned it will be welded on after a few mags of ammo have been run through it.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
I am not a fan of the AAC mounts with the locking teeth. My M4-2000 with the 51 tooth mount has been terrible. Hopefully their 90 tooth mounts will be better.
I am not a fan of the AAC mounts with the locking teeth. My M4-2000 with the 51 tooth mount has been terrible. Hopefully their 90 tooth mounts will be better.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
Hasn't Surefire been using a taper and fine teeth mount for awhile now?
The teeth area isn't 360 degrees, but if it was, it looks to be finer than 90 teeth.
Hasn't Surefire been using a taper and fine teeth mount for awhile now?
The teeth area isn't 360 degrees, but if it was, it looks to be finer than 90 teeth.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
The SR-7s aren't shipping quite yet. There are only a few in circulation from shows, tests, etc. Last I heard was a few more months out.
And the new mount system is pretty slick. The teeth are only for redundancy, as the tension from contact is pretty amazing. Some of the prototypes don't even have the teeth on it, it's that solid.
The SR-7s aren't shipping quite yet. There are only a few in circulation from shows, tests, etc. Last I heard was a few more months out.
And the new mount system is pretty slick. The teeth are only for redundancy, as the tension from contact is pretty amazing. Some of the prototypes don't even have the teeth on it, it's that solid.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1garand30064</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The big question I have is how hard will it be to get the can off the mount when its been heated and had a bunch of carbon foul it? The way it is designed I'm concerned it will be welded on after a few mags of ammo have been run through it. </div></div>
AAC did mention that military customers chose to stick with the current 51 tooth mounts. They probably wanted to continue using a system they were familiar with rather than work with something they hadn't tested.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: d00d</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hasn't Surefire been using a taper and fine teeth mount for awhile now?
The teeth area isn't 360 degrees, but if it was, it looks to be finer than 90 teeth.
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The Surefire system is a little different in that it only ratcheted for a very limited number of degrees like 30, rather than ratcheting through 3/4 of a turn hitting many teeth on every cycle like the AAC system.
The surefire system uses a thread under the collar that is less coarse (rather than 6 TPI I think it is more like 12 TPI). This may limit torque during the firing cycle, allowing them to retain the collar with less spring force, contributing to greater wear life on the ratcheting teeth. ~For whatever reason, there have been nearly no reported problems with the Surefire system. That would suggest it was a better designed mounting system.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m1garand30064</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
The big question I have is how hard will it be to get the can off the mount when its been heated and had a bunch of carbon foul it? The way it is designed I'm concerned it will be welded on after a few mags of ammo have been run through it. </div></div>
AAC did mention that military customers chose to stick with the current 51 tooth mounts. They probably wanted to continue using a system they were familiar with rather than work with something they hadn't tested.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: d00d</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hasn't Surefire been using a taper and fine teeth mount for awhile now?
The teeth area isn't 360 degrees, but if it was, it looks to be finer than 90 teeth.
</div></div>
The Surefire system is a little different in that it only ratcheted for a very limited number of degrees like 30, rather than ratcheting through 3/4 of a turn hitting many teeth on every cycle like the AAC system.
The surefire system uses a thread under the collar that is less coarse (rather than 6 TPI I think it is more like 12 TPI). This may limit torque during the firing cycle, allowing them to retain the collar with less spring force, contributing to greater wear life on the ratcheting teeth. ~For whatever reason, there have been nearly no reported problems with the Surefire system. That would suggest it was a better designed mounting system.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
I understand......
But can I get a flash sup. for my OBR 7.62, my 5.56 16 inch AR15,
my 20 inch bolt, and a 24 inch 300 wim mag and run the same can for all four guns? All with a QD mount...
From what I am hearing the surefire can not do this......
I understand......
But can I get a flash sup. for my OBR 7.62, my 5.56 16 inch AR15,
my 20 inch bolt, and a 24 inch 300 wim mag and run the same can for all four guns? All with a QD mount...
From what I am hearing the surefire can not do this......
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rhinomax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I understand......
But can I get a flash sup. for my OBR 7.62, my 5.56 16 inch AR15,
my 20 inch bolt, and a 24 inch 300 wim mag and run the same can for all four guns? All with a QD mount...
From what I am hearing the surefire can not do this......
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If you run the Surefire 762K can you can run it on all those platforms. The 762K will fit the 556 adapters.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rhinomax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I understand......
But can I get a flash sup. for my OBR 7.62, my 5.56 16 inch AR15,
my 20 inch bolt, and a 24 inch 300 wim mag and run the same can for all four guns? All with a QD mount...
From what I am hearing the surefire can not do this......
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If you run the Surefire 762K can you can run it on all those platforms. The 762K will fit the 556 adapters.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
As for the OP's question about poi shift...anybody that says a given type or brand of can has zero poi shift is either lying or has been lied to by others. Sure, it happens that a unique and lucky combo of can/rifle results in no poi shift, but put another of the same type of can on the rifle (or change barrel length,taper, threads, clocking, etc. on the rifle and poi will shift. Luck happens, but no one brand/model has a corner on it. Add anything to the end of your barrel and the best you can reasonably hope for is a vertical poi shift.
As for the OP's question about poi shift...anybody that says a given type or brand of can has zero poi shift is either lying or has been lied to by others. Sure, it happens that a unique and lucky combo of can/rifle results in no poi shift, but put another of the same type of can on the rifle (or change barrel length,taper, threads, clocking, etc. on the rifle and poi will shift. Luck happens, but no one brand/model has a corner on it. Add anything to the end of your barrel and the best you can reasonably hope for is a vertical poi shift.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rhinomax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I understand......
But can I get a flash sup. for my OBR 7.62, my 5.56 16 inch AR15,
my 20 inch bolt, and a 24 inch 300 wim mag and run the same can for all four guns? All with a QD mount...
From what I am hearing the surefire can not do this......
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If you run the Surefire 762K can you can run it on all those platforms. The 762K will fit the 556 adapters. </div></div>
Of course, for the difference in price you could basically buy a spare adapter for <span style="font-style: italic">every</span> one of those rifles, and still spend the same amount of money as the AAC.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: koz</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rhinomax</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I understand......
But can I get a flash sup. for my OBR 7.62, my 5.56 16 inch AR15,
my 20 inch bolt, and a 24 inch 300 wim mag and run the same can for all four guns? All with a QD mount...
From what I am hearing the surefire can not do this......
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If you run the Surefire 762K can you can run it on all those platforms. The 762K will fit the 556 adapters. </div></div>
Of course, for the difference in price you could basically buy a spare adapter for <span style="font-style: italic">every</span> one of those rifles, and still spend the same amount of money as the AAC.
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I asked this on another thread, but let me try here. Do you think I would be OK running my 7.62SDN on my Remmy 5R 24 inch barrel?
Bad idea? good idea? can run a little but not a great idea?
Griffen what you think?
I asked this on another thread, but let me try here. Do you think I would be OK running my 7.62SDN on my Remmy 5R 24 inch barrel?
Bad idea? good idea? can run a little but not a great idea?
Griffen what you think?
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PappaSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I asked this on another thread, but let me try here. Do you think I would be OK running my 7.62SDN on my Remmy 5R 24 inch barrel?
Bad idea? good idea? can run a little but not a great idea?
Griffen what you think? </div></div>
What caliber? If it is .308 you'll be ok for sure. If it's a 300 WM I'd email them and ask directly. That way you'll have something in writing in case something happens.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PappaSniper</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I asked this on another thread, but let me try here. Do you think I would be OK running my 7.62SDN on my Remmy 5R 24 inch barrel?
Bad idea? good idea? can run a little but not a great idea?
Griffen what you think? </div></div>
What caliber? If it is .308 you'll be ok for sure. If it's a 300 WM I'd email them and ask directly. That way you'll have something in writing in case something happens.
Re: Anybody played with the new AAC SR-7
Yea, sorry man. 300 win magulation! On my 5R 308 now 20 inch.
Yea, sorry man. 300 win magulation! On my 5R 308 now 20 inch.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chainring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At least one guy that I know of has bulged a 762SD with a 300win mag with a longer barrel. I wouldn't do it. Get an N6 or SR7 for that application. </div></div>
Do you know what bullet and barrel length he used? Quickload shows a Max SAAMI 300WM load with midrange bullet weight generating 12,500-13,000 PSI at the muzzle out of a 24" barrel. Bumping the barrel length out to 26" drops the pressure to between 11,000-12,000 PSI.
For reference a MAX SAAMI load using midrange bullet weights out of a 16" barrel 308 generates about 13,000-14,000 PSI.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chainring</div><div class="ubbcode-body">At least one guy that I know of has bulged a 762SD with a 300win mag with a longer barrel. I wouldn't do it. Get an N6 or SR7 for that application. </div></div>
Do you know what bullet and barrel length he used? Quickload shows a Max SAAMI 300WM load with midrange bullet weight generating 12,500-13,000 PSI at the muzzle out of a 24" barrel. Bumping the barrel length out to 26" drops the pressure to between 11,000-12,000 PSI.
For reference a MAX SAAMI load using midrange bullet weights out of a 16" barrel 308 generates about 13,000-14,000 PSI.
