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Berated at private range

Micdalen

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This past weekend, I took my granddaughter and grandson to a a local private range to get a little time on their new rifles they got for their birthdays this year. I have been going to this range for over 2 years, and my son helped build the thing.

My granddaughter is 7 and grandson is 9. They have both been shooting for over 2 years each, both live with me and a very firearm safety conscious. We waited our turn for range time, and begin to set up. I let my granddaughter shoot first, then the grandson. At all times they were calm and right by my side, never once did they cross the firing line, or do anything that would constitute anything unsafe. We finished shooting, policed our brass up, cleaned our area thoroughly and went to the on site picnic area for lunch. Then it started.

Two gentlemen approached and started asking me a dozen questions about them, and why I would bring such young shooters to the range. I informed them both they had been shooting for over two years. They informed me and I qoute " You are exposing these kids to unsafe conditions, and putting them at risk.' At this point I let them know to mind their own business and please refrain from any further discussion in front of my grandchildren. They continued to ask questions of which county I lived in and my name and such. Now I hate to pass judgement on appearence or anything , but these two butt monkeys were nothing but straight up rednecks. Several other shooters in the picnic area came up at this point as a show of support, and informed them they needed to leave, additionally the range safety person approached them afterwards and asked them to leave and not return.

Now what sticks in my craw is plain and simple. Here I am trying to teach my grandchildren responsibility and safety, only to be berated in front of them. All of my grandchildren actively shoot with me, and love the time we spend together. They are very safety minded, and will often remark at others being unsafe at the ranges.

It really surprised me, we have never had an issue or any other incident anywhere else. I was out of shooting for nearly 10 years due to health issues, and since returnin have seen some appalling crap everywhere. But in all my time I have never seen anyone at a range respond to children learning to shoot. My granddaughter was really worried I was going to get into trouble for bringing them, and now she seems hesitant to even want to go out and shoot on our property. Before this it was a daily thing to ask are we going to shoot today. I have four grandchildren living with me, and we spend alot of time together this way.

Has this turned into a common occurance or is it just isolated this one time? I am not one of the grnadparents that overlooks bad behavoir, I am raising them and I am very proud of the children they are and the way they act and behave. They are welcome at all the gun shops in the local area, and I am constantly complimented on their behavoir in public.
 
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Sorry for your run-in. I have never experienced anything of that sort at my local club or at public facilities in and around my area. I have a feeling that if it did occur, that the response of others at the range would have in much the same manner as those who came to support you and your grandchildren.

It always amazes me how ignorant some people are...especially fellow shooters/sportsman who should understand and value the importance of educating our children (and grandchildren...and all future generations) in the safe handling, respect for, and use of firearms. Keep up the fine work, Grandpa, and keep encouraging and educating those wonderful kids to stick with their sport!!! Maybe you can play it off that those ignorant men were just jealous since your grandkids behaved better and shot better than both of those rednecks combined!!
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Take care and God bless!
 
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Tell them to shut their mouths and go suck start their rifles. No one's damn business.
 
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Nothing wrong with you keeping the grandkids involved. I have actually gotten compliments from people for bringing my son to our local range. People that are interested in the shooting sports are usually happy to see someone passing on the hobby to the next generation. Write it off as a couple of yahoos and keep shooting with the grandkids.
 
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Sorry to hear about what you and your family went through. It is your Grand kids who took it harder by not understand what was going on. You handled it in a mature way and if the two ass wipes show up again maybe you can put some paper on them. MM
 
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Thank you for bringing your Grandchildren with you, and thank you even more for taking an active role in their lives. Especially doing so, in something to which they are now interested in, too.

Remind your Grand-daughter of all the good times that you've had, shooting and whatnot. Having one 'not-so-good' experience puts the onus of 'bad' on those people, not ya'll. (Ukrainian Reverse-Psychology Kid-Speak, eh?) So hopefully, she'll see the balance of "what's better" and not be hesitant.

And then, take them out and have an awesome time. I don't know if you use reactive targets yet, but do something to bring the fun back into it even more-so.

No, I'm not talking about tannerite, I am talking about milk-jugs and pop bottles (plastic ones...) filled with water. That way they explode when hit, but it all stays in one piece for easy clean-up.

Just my thoughts, for moving on and moving past these two 'inbreds' who really deserve no more consideration.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MidTnVet</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This past weekend, I took my granddaughter and grandson to a a local private range to get a little time on their new rifles they got for their birthdays this year. I have been going to this range for over 2 years, and my son helped build the thing.

My granddaughter is 7 and grandson is 9. They have both been shooting for over 2 years each, both live with me and a very firearm safety conscious. We waited our turn for range time, and begin to set up. I let my granddaughter shoot first, then the grandson. At all times they were calm and right by my side, never once did they cross the firing line, or do anything that would constitute anything unsafe. We finished shooting, policed our brass up, cleaned our area thoroughly and went to the on site picnic area for lunch. Then it started.

Two gentlemen approached and started asking me a dozen questions about them, and why I would bring such young shooters to the range. I informed them both they had been shooting for over two years. They informed me and I qoute " You are exposing these kids to unsafe conditions, and putting them at risk.' At this point I let them know to mind their own business and please refrain from any further discussion in front of my grandchildren. They continued to ask questions of which county I lived in and my name and such. Now I hate to pass judgement on appearence or anything , but these two butt monkeys were nothing but straight up rednecks. Several other shooters in the picnic area came up at this point as a show of support, and informed them they needed to leave, additionally the range safety person approached them afterwards and asked them to leave and not return.

Now what sticks in my craw is plain and simple. Here I am trying to teach my grandchildren responsibility and safety, only to be berated in front of them. All of my grandchildren actively shoot with me, and love the time we spend together. They are very safety minded, and will often remark at others being unsafe at the ranges.

It really surprised me, we have never had an issue or any other incident anywhere else. I was out of shooting for nearly 10 years due to health issues, and since returnin have seen some appalling crap everywhere. But in all my time I have never seen anyone at a range respond to children learning to shoot. My granddaughter was really worried I was going to get into trouble for bringing them, and now she seems hesitant to even want to go out and shoot on our property. Before this it was a daily thing to ask are we going to shoot today. I have four grandchildren living with me, and we spend alot of time together this way.

Has this turned into a common occurance or is it just isolated this one time? I am not one of the grnadparents that overlooks bad behavoir, I am raising them and I am very proud of the children they are and the way they act and behave. They are welcome at all the gun shops in the local area, and I am constantly complimented on their behavoir in public.

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young shooters keep the sport alive and are the future. get her back on the horse so to speak, inanimate objects aren't upsafe, people are.
 
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You acted appropriately. especially with the grandkids around. I would not have been so kind and helped those gentlemen find their way back to the car. At least the others at the range came to your support. Sounds like you have a great place to shoot out there, minus the occasional evader of natural selection that you can get anywhere you go.
 
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When we see anyone safely involving young shooters who, after all are the future of our sport, we thank them, and welcome the youngsters. Regards
 
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Wow, suprising being that you are in TN. Hell, I am in Commiefornia and have had nothing but, "Great job Dad," when I have my kids (youngest is 6) at the range.

I wouldn't sweat it. Probably just a couple of local dickheads wanting the range for themselves.
 
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I like to sucker punch people like that. If those two dickheads thought that your children were in danger its because they are not familiar with firearms safety. That and both are probably mama's boys.
 
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For the OP and any others who run into this problem. When confronted by those mention in the OPs post, kindly point the individuals to the CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) Website asking them to read their charter (Chartered by Congress) and their mission statement:

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The CMP Mission

To Promote Firearm Safety and Marksmanship Training With an Emphasis on Youth

Our Vision

That Every Youth in America Has the Opportunity to Participate in Firearm Safety and Marksmanship Programs</div></div>

No where in their charter have I seen anything about AGE.

I am a CMP GSM Master Instructor. We enchourage kids to shoot. I've turned down NO KIDs regardless of age. I put on clinics that teaches SAFETY as well as fundamentals.

I know all kids are different, but parents or grandparent know their kids and whether they can safely handle a fire arm. It's not up to some idiotic do gooders.

I'm one of the borad of directors of our club, I get real nasty to individuals who think they know more about the kids then the parents/grandparents.

Juniors are the future of shooting sports and should be enchouraged by any means possible.

 
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Hard to do or say what needed to be done in the pressence of young children. Teach it to them as a lrsson, there will always be one dumbass pissing on your parade (clean up thr laungauge of course).
 
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they are butt monkeys plain and simple.
 
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This is more dangerous than most suspect... I believe this was part of a coordinated plan by left wingers to file child abuse or child endangerment charges against you and the children's parents. Look for more of this to happen. Spread the word out, and make sure you ask these people who they work for, what are THEIR names, and what county do THEY reside in? If they won't give you answers to all those questions FIRST, do NOT tell them anything. They must self id as law enforcement before you need to comply. Then call for security to usher them off the premises, photograph them with your iphone, and post their pictures at the range as banished individuals. I believe you'll find them to be political activists posing as good 'ol boys.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JTM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is more dangerous than most suspect... I believe this was part of a coordinated plan by left wingers to file child abuse or child endangerment charges against you and the children's parents. Look for more of this to happen. Spread the word out, and make sure you ask these people who they work for, what are THEIR names, and what county do THEY reside in? If they won't give you answers to all those questions FIRST, do NOT tell them anything. They must self id as law enforcement before you need to comply. Then call for security to usher them off the premises, photograph them with your iphone, and post their pictures at the range as banished individuals. I believe you'll find them to be political activists posing as good 'ol boys. </div></div>
My first thoughts also upon reading this. Sounds a lot like the tactics of a group of anti hunters up here.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JTM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is more dangerous than most suspect... I believe this was part of a coordinated plan by left wingers to file child abuse or child endangerment charges against you and the children's parents. Look for more of this to happen. Spread the word out, and make sure you ask these people who they work for, what are THEIR names, and what county do THEY reside in? If they won't give you answers to all those questions FIRST, do NOT tell them anything. They must self id as law enforcement before you need to comply. Then call for security to usher them off the premises, photograph them with your iphone, and post their pictures at the range as banished individuals. I believe you'll find them to be political activists posing as good 'ol boys. </div></div>Tinfoil and popcorn please... Everything is a freakin' conspiracy...
 
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I dont think this had anything to do with the kids either. You looked like an easy mark because you had two young children with you. Ironically people get robbed at ranges. Maybe when the others showed up they needed to continue the pretense they approached you with.
 
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i'd have said

"what is alarming is I have to expose my grandchildren to sperm burpers like you when we are here minding our own business having an enjoyable time in the outdoors shooting, being a role model, spending quality time together, and getting my grandchildren out of the house and off of video games like im sure your little fuckwad kids are doing as we speak, now if you will excuse me I am going to continue to teach my grankids basic marksmanship skills and firearm safety, you two are more than welcome to stroke each other off and go fuck yourselves, have a nice afternoon"

but thats just me
 
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Tell them to move out and draw fire!

My dad took me hunting and I had my shotgun and .22 at age 8 and I hunted with all the adults. You mind your children, then it becomes none of their business.

Them asking personal info though, that crosses the line with me. I start to view them as a threat then. I wasn't there, but it could very well have been a plan to report him. I want to say I've heard of that somewhere, but I can't be sure.

You tell that little girl that if she enjoys shooting with gramps, then do it! She'll have to put up with more trash in her face as the years go by, so better to have you by her side teaching her how to deal with it while engaging in a fun past time. She'll always remember shooting with gramps too.

She likely won't recall the redneck.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VJJPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i'd have said

"what is alarming is I have to expose my grandchildren to sperm burpers like you when we are here minding our own business having an enjoyable time in the outdoors shooting, being a role model, spending quality time together, and getting my grandchildren out of the house and off of video games like im sure your little fuckwad kids are doing as we speak, now if you will excuse me I am going to continue to teach my grankids basic marksmanship skills and firearm safety, you two are more than welcome to stroke each other off and go fuck yourselves, have a nice afternoon"

but thats just me </div></div>

This is MUCH more eloquent than what I would have said.

MidTnVet, you're doing the right thing and handled it well. Keep the children involved, but let them know the ones who accosted you were ass-clowns and to not worry.
 
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Sometimes its hard to have cool hands.

I'm sorry this happened to you, and your family.

You did the right thing by sticking up for yourself. Your kids learned from this.
 
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Thanks for the support. I try and keep a level head when the children are with me. I want to set a good example, and continue to have a good time with them. They love to go shooting, and they are exceptional children under the circumstances of their lives. Again thanks for the encouragement in this encounter.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Delfuego</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JTM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is more dangerous than most suspect... I believe this was part of a coordinated plan by left wingers to file child abuse or child endangerment charges against you and the children's parents. Look for more of this to happen. Spread the word out, and make sure you ask these people who they work for, what are THEIR names, and what county do THEY reside in? If they won't give you answers to all those questions FIRST, do NOT tell them anything. They must self id as law enforcement before you need to comply. Then call for security to usher them off the premises, photograph them with your iphone, and post their pictures at the range as banished individuals. I believe you'll find them to be political activists posing as good 'ol boys. </div></div>Tinfoil and popcorn please... Everything is a freakin' conspiracy... </div></div>

Tinfoil or not there are groups that do exactly this where I come from. In more arenas than the ranges.

I will say with the OPs description of a couple of rednecks it seems a bit off, but the tactics JTM describes are used.

Though I do admit I've been trending more towards tinfoil than not these days... seems to be a sign of the times or dementia setting in.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Delfuego</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JTM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is more dangerous than most suspect... I believe this was part of a coordinated plan by left wingers to file child abuse or child endangerment charges against you and the children's parents. Look for more of this to happen. Spread the word out, and <span style="font-weight: bold">make sure you ask these people who they work for, what are THEIR names,</span> and what county do THEY reside in? If they won't give you answers to all those questions FIRST, do NOT tell them anything. They must self id as law enforcement before you need to comply. <span style="font-weight: bold">Then call for security to usher them off the premises, photograph them with your iphone,</span> and post their pictures at the range as banished individuals. I believe you'll find them to be political activists posing as good 'ol boys. </div></div>Tinfoil and popcorn please... Everything is a freakin' conspiracy... </div></div>

Still, I believe it's an excellent idea to turn the tables by asking for their ID's, taking pictures, and immediately getting range personnel involved.
 
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When we were at the county range here, the old dude came up and started on Sam with the M14 and the AR. I looked at Sam said, "Boy, show the man what you do with that rifle"
He procedeeded to knock out a four minute field strip and rebuild, lock and load, then fire 10 rounds into a 4" group rapid/bench, unload, make safe and smile.
Thought is was a done deal. Nope, last weekend the guy came over and started lecturing me on my Indian brass and how it's not reloadable, how primer pockets are not the same and all about how I should give him the brass. I really hate to say it, but this range while fun to shoot at, has it's share of RVN vets that shouln't be doing anything more than walmart greeting, adn I almost want to take a harder look into the guy because something just doesn;t line right up with this one, like maybe he was just a POG and never really did much, either way, as much as we try to avoid the guy and just keep to ourselves, he keeps inserting himself into our range time. I think if he insists, next time, I may have to get a little edgy with him and let him know we are there to shoot, do ou rthing, then leave. No interest in anyone's business or other BS...we just want to shoot and be left to ourselves, besides, every other rifle there is an AR with a Soldier/former Solier behind it, a few old russian rifles, lots of hunting rifles, and I think we have the only FAL and M14 on the range...my match loads seem to be a little long for the M14 since I kinda loaded them a tad long for the match bolt guns, but it cycles the NATO stuff reallly good
 
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Take them to the range everyday- or as much as you can. They are old enough to learn, especially if you are right at their side. It's good quality time to spend with them. Everyone else who don't like it can eat a ......
 
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I used to shoot at the Associated Gun Club range in Marriottsville, MD (if any of you know it). Prior service Army, retired, shooter for many decades, would take my son up to shoot. At 6-1/2 he took and passed the NRA range safety test (32 question thing, safe gun handling demonstration), local gun stores knew us well enough when we went to pick out a handgun for him (at 7 years), they'd just hand HIM the gun.

The AGC range Nazi RSO was a real dick. Some scrawny guy with glasses, a boonie cap and bad teeth. Messed with us every single time we went there. Guy gave me a hard time once because I was function testing some reloaded .223 ammo and I just ran a couple of five round slow-fire mags into the 100 yard berm without a target. You'd have thought I was sniping at pigeons or something, he completely freaked out about it. I told him to show me "the rule" that said I had to shoot at a framed target, just stared him down, packed up, and left.

Next time I went out with my son he hounded us for most of the hour we were there. I really got into his shit about bringing up new shooters, getting families involved, how I didn't appreciate his harassing us then I told my son to pick up his pigeons and we left.

I let my membership lapse.
 
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My dad started taking me shooting when I was 5 years old and I turned out alright (that's what I'm told anyways). Despite their aforementioned circumstances, they are lucky to have a grandfather that will take the time to bring them up right and teach/show them how to be responsible firearms owners. Good on ya! Someone needs to punch those air thieves in the throat.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BillPrudden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"They continued to ask questions of which county I lived in and my name and such."

Are you sure this was not a bump toward future theft? </div></div>

That was my thought as well. Probably a pair of crackheads casing you for gun theft.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bigwheels</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BillPrudden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"They continued to ask questions of which county I lived in and my name and such."

Are you sure this was not a bump toward future theft? </div></div>

That was my thought as well. Probably a pair of crackheads casing you for gun theft.</div></div>
That is why it is a good idea to remember the address of you local PD
 
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I'm originally from and grew up in Tennessee and shot my first firearm at 5 years old and I know ALOT of "rednecks" and they all teach their kids to shoot at a young age as well and for this to happen to anyone in any state makes me sick to my stomach, much less my own home state. Absolutely ridiculous! Sorry your grandchildren had to go through that experience.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MANIMAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm originally from and grew up in Tennessee and shit my first firearm at 5 years old and I know ALOT of "rednecks" and they all teach their kids to shoot at a young age as well and for this to happen to anyone in any state makes me sick to my stomach, much less my own home state. Absolutely ridiculous! Sorry your grandchildren had to go through that experience.</div></div>

I hope I will start shitting firearms. Sure would save me a lot of money.
 
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MidTnVet, what you're doing is great. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I don't think I would've been as nice about it as you were. I probaly would've told dumb & dumber to go suck start a pistol and let me worry about my own damn kids..... Keep it up and don't let the oxygen thieves get to you.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think we will just go to the very end of the line from now on, make sure our earplugs are in tight, and just look dumb and go,"HUH? WHAT?"</div></div>

I think I may adopt that tactic. LOL
 
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As others have said, I believe it was handled very appropriately in the presence of children.

I also think I'd have been much less, ahem, diplomatic...and probably said a few things kids shouldn't hear.

Shit like this is one reason why I thank GOD I have access to private land to shoot, even if it is a 90 minute drive each way...
 
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Take them back to the range and run a few hundred more rounds down range ASAP!!!
 
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Just an update, we went back to the range this morning with all 4 grandchildren. We had a great time, all 4 getting serious time behind their rifles, and me a couple of hours also. No confrontations, and even a few shooters helped me out so I could get some time on mine. They were very well behaved and courteous. When everyone broke for lunch, and was cleaning up the range the grandchildren went out of their way to help clean and insure that the range was clean.

The owner of the property was there and we talked at length about the encounter. He informed me they have been banned from future use of the range, and that the person who invited them ultimately would be closely watched. He is going to institute a policy where everyones i.d's will be maintained in case of future conrfontations, and anyone refusing would loose all rights to usage of the range. He made it clear that my grnadchildren would always be welcome, and to let him know if anyone else ever tried the same thing.

The outpouring of support is phenominal. Glad to see that there are still those out there that have values. Thanks for the moral support.
 
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Glad to hear that your range is reacting this way and that steps to prevent future issues are being taken seriously. Most importantly, I'm glad to hear that a good time was had by all and that your grandchildren haven't been disuaded from their enjoyment of shooting by the ignorance and poor behavior of a couple people that shouldn't have been around in the first place.
 
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Hey, this may help for future problems now that you've added a little more...

What we do at our shooting club is to sign in. Visitors have to sign in with their host, and the host is responsible for what they do and where they go. You are advised to bring no more than you can handle. If there are problems or shit comes up missing, they look at that list of names present during that time. If you get caught not signing in more than a few times, there are reprimands for that.

The main list is kept right at the front by the range officer who you need to check in with. Then there are sign in sheets at each of the respective ranges (shotgun, pistol sheds, etc.) that may not be supervised.

The idea is that it cuts down on problems overall and makes it easier to weed existing ones out. It is also a good safety protocol to make sure nobody starts shooting at an "empty" range --when perhaps someone is actually downrange with a twisted ankle or something-- or someone gets left overnight injurned on a range.

We also have a gate to the range, and only members have the code. This works well to keep out unwanteds too. You also have to get voted in to our club, and if anyone knows you are a peck from elsewhere, their one no vote can keep you out, it has to be unanimous.

Finally, if you are a member it is your club. So unless he's an officer of your club with a legitimate issue, he is really just a nobody to you.
 
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Smells fishy to me o_O Either casing for theft, or this
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is more dangerous than most suspect... I believe this was part of a coordinated plan by left wingers to file child abuse or child endangerment charges against you and the children's parents. Look for more of this to happen. Spread the word out, and make sure you ask these people who they work for, what are THEIR names, and what county do THEY reside in? If they won't give you answers to all those questions FIRST, do NOT tell them anything. They must self id as law enforcement before you need to comply. Then call for security to usher them off the premises, photograph them with your iphone, and post their pictures at the range as banished individuals. I believe you'll find them to be political activists posing as good 'ol boys.</div></div>
 
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It is pretty simple really:

You were right to take your grandkids out, and supervise them. They were wrong. The thought that you were exposing them to unsafe conditions, is a statement from those making it that they believe either they, or the range is unsafe. IF that were true, they should be talking to the rangemaster.

It is your prerogative to determine what is safe or unsafe, it isn't up to strangers to determine that on someone else's behalf.

It was entirely appropriate for them to be told to leave, and you were right and most gentlemanly to tell them to not discuss further in front of your grandkids. I doubt I would have been to charitable to them.

Also, you were right to not argue: Old saying: "Never argue with a fool as bystanders won't know which is which."
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Goatphius</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MANIMAL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm originally from and grew up in Tennessee and shit my first firearm at 5 years old and I know ALOT of "rednecks" and they all teach their kids to shoot at a young age as well and for this to happen to anyone in any state makes me sick to my stomach, much less my own home state. Absolutely ridiculous! Sorry your grandchildren had to go through that experience.</div></div>

I hope I will start shitting firearms. Sure would save me a lot of money. </div></div>

HAHA!!! Gotta love when your phone knows you so well that it autocorrects from shot to shit.....
 
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Take heart in the fact you are teaching them safe gun handling and don't worry too much about the idiots.If we don't teach our children and grandchildren about gun safety and our American heritage,both will be lost in the not too distant future.I would also recommend you look up the info for the appleseed project,and if one is being held in your area take those kids.It is a fantastic program which encompasses safe shooting and an incredible history lesson about how,with the help of firearms,we won. our independence
 
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Good job taking the kids out to shoot, my grandfather also taught me at a young age. Those nut cups were probably just looking to start trouble or rob you. It always amazes me how many people fire all of their ammo at the range and drive home with empty guns.
 
Re: Berated at private range

Just another good example how stupid can find you where ever you are.


IDIOT, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. The Idiot's activity is not confined to any special field of thought or action, but "pervades and regulates the whole." He has the last word in everything; his decision is unappealable. He sets the fashions and opinion of taste, dictates the limitations of speech and circumscribes conduct with a dead-line.
Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
US author & satirist (1842 - 1914)