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AR15's at Walmart

topgun99

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Has anyone seen the DPMS Sportical at Walmart? I used to have one and found it to be a very accurate and reliable rifle. They have them now for $587.00 plus tax at my local store. Gonna pick one up when I get in from the field.
 
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Ya, old news. Walmarts and other big box places have all been picking up ARs lately, they've seen where the money's at.

Walmart had decent prices on Colts for a while as well.



As for the Sportical, it's DPMS' cheapest AR. $587 is about right, online you can get it for about the same but with an FFL fee instead of sales tax, so you can save an extra $20-40 depending on your local fee.

It's a slick side model, no forward assist, no dust cover, no A frame, and no weight to the barrel; but it'll be fine for just plinking.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 317millhand</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't do it!
Support your local dealer </div></div>

+1, Here's a typical scenario. Guy goes to gun store, says he wants to learn about AR's. A knowledgeable sales person spends time with this "customer" and shows him several AR's whith might appeal to the "customer", including the Sportical, which sells for about $620. The "customer" has taken about 40 minutes of the gun store salesman's time which cannot be regained, in other words, while serving this "customer" to assure this "customer's" satisfaction, the salesman misses other sales opportunities. Now, the "customer" is certain, the Sportical is just right, so he says he's going to think about it. The customer leaves the gun store and heads to Walmart where he buys the gun for a few dollars less. Thing is, now the guy brings the rifle to the gun store where he had earlier shopped, and now wants the salesman to show how the gun is disassembled, or better yet to mount a Walmart scope and bore sight the rifle. The "customer" gets mad when the salesman says he will get to him after others waiting are served. The "customer" leaves the store complaining that he was treated poorly and vows to never shop there again.

At any rate, retail competition is what it is. And some shoppers understand value is not just about low price.
 
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+1. Support the guys who actually take time to educate. Walmart may be cheaper but will not give you the sound advice needed when making a large purchase.
 
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Very well said my last trip to wal mart i was in the (spoting goods section) minding my own business but could not help myself listen to the guy behind the counter showing his friends mini 14 when his friend say what caliber is it he say its a 240 and u should see the 30 round clips then he says can i help u with something i looked at my duaghter laughed out loud and we went to buy some toys.
 
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Very good comments for those looking to get their first AR, but as I stated i've had one of the sporticals and have been familure with various AR's for years. I am getting one that I can put a set of BUIS and a good quick detach red dot on and not break the bank. If I save a few bucks so much the better.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: topgun99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Very good comments for those looking to get their first AR, but as I stated i've had one of the sporticals and have been familure with various AR's for years. I am getting one that I can put a set of BUIS and a good quick detach red dot on and not break the bank. If I save a few bucks so much the better.</div></div>

You're going to be back here with a new thread about how you cannot zero your iron sights. The folks at Walmart will not have a clue about what sort of sight set you need; and, I doubt the gun store folks will have any interest in spending any time with you to show you the special height front sight you will need, which is required for the Sportical when used with the mil-spec height rear sight. This predicament will cost you some time. What is your time worth? Or, imagine going to the range with the expectation for a fun day only to have that expectation disrupted by frustration when you cannot zero your rifle. Then there will be the additional expense of eventually buying a front sight which will work. At any rate, I could tell you exactly what sight you will need but I think for right now I'll let you enjoy the full consequence of your purchasing decisions.
 
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Great posts Sterling Shooter. Very true. Support the small, local firearm dealers.
 
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echo everyone on all the other comments with supporting your local shop. I would also add, even if you went to a big box store like Cabelas, Bass pro or sportsman's warehouse, IMO, and I may catch flack for this on this forum but i don't care, it would be better than supporting a corporation like Wall-mart that consistently engages in unethical business practices. I do realize in some rural areas of the country they are the only game in town for may goods and services and if that's the case then you gotta do what you gotta do but if there are other options, for anything, I go elsewhere. But just my 2 cents, not trying to stir the political pot.
 
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"Vote with your dollars" is what they say. When I was a kid (and that wasn't very long ago), Walmart had a decent selection of firearms and ammunition. It's not a gun store, but you could walk in and expect to find at least Rem700, Win70, and Weatherby Vanguard in 30-06 and 270win- along with a few 243win and at least a couple Marlin 30-30s. They also had ruger 10/22s, and a selection of shotguns from Winchester (1300), Remington (870 and 1187), NEF, and Beretta. My first firearms (bought by my dad) were a 10/22, a NEF break-action single-shot .401, and a Marlin 30-30- all bought from Walmart. Now, none of the Walmarts in my area carry firearms. Now many here may say "Yea, a win for the little guy..." but, is it really? At the end of the day, a loss of choice hurts the consumer (the real little guy). It was after Columbine that Kmart stopped carrying ammunition. Big box stores with national and global footprints are "low hanging fruit" for those that would see gun sales stopped. These corporations are opposed only to that which costs them money. If anti-firearm ownership backlash will (potentially) cost them more than sales will earn, then sales will stop. Once that is won, then it is on to Bass Pro shops (they're a fishing store anyway), Academy, Big Five, Dick's, Gander Mountain, Cabelas, etc. Now that all of the big money players are out of the way, the local shops will fold up for lack of funds to fight. Battle won- or lost depending on how you look at it.

One other thing. On a business trip to Nebraska, I stopped into a Walmart and saw Ar15s in the sporting goods section. That whetted my appetite and I soon bought a LR-308 from a local shop. The door can, and occasionally does, swing both ways...
 
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Thanks for the sarcasm but i'm pretty sure i'm capable of doing my own research as to what will work. The point of the post was simply that if you were in the market for a basic AR to start a kid out on or just to throw in the truck, you could save a few bucks. I'm well aware that there are better quality ones out there. And I also support local shops but some people can take the extra savings and buy a few boxes of ammo.
 
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Just make sure and do a function check, once guns leave the store they can not be returned, so if you buy a lemon you will have to send it back to the manufacturer..
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sterling Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 317millhand</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't do it!
Support your local dealer </div></div>

+1, Here's a typical scenario. Guy goes to gun store, says he wants to learn about AR's. A knowledgeable sales person spends time with this "customer" and shows him several AR's whith might appeal to the "customer", including the Sportical, which sells for about $620. The "customer" has taken about 40 minutes of the gun store salesman's time which cannot be regained, in other words, while serving this "customer" to assure this "customer's" satisfaction, the salesman misses other sales opportunities. Now, the "customer" is certain, the Sportical is just right, so he says he's going to think about it. The customer leaves the gun store and heads to Walmart where he buys the gun for a few dollars less. Thing is, now the guy brings the rifle to the gun store where he had earlier shopped, and now wants the salesman to show how the gun is disassembled, or better yet to mount a Walmart scope and bore sight the rifle. The "customer" gets mad when the salesman says he will get to him after others waiting are served. The "customer" leaves the store complaining that he was treated poorly and vows to never shop there again.

At any rate, retail competition is what it is. And some shoppers understand value is not just about low price. </div></div>

+10000000 See this happen every day where I work, different industry same story

If you ever own your on business you will understand how angry this makes small business owners....
 
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I am as pissed as the next guy watching american companies outsource jobs overseas and close plants in this country all for the sake of squeezing a few more dollars out of their already bloated profit margins. That being said, I also understand that there are those that do not have the luxury of only buying Made In The USA because of their limited income. Some people have to make the best use of those limited funds and if that means saving $40.00 to $50.00 bucks on a rifle at walmart vs. a local shop so be it. At least they are exercising their 2A rights and still contributing to the local economy because those tax dollars still go into supporting their community.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: topgun99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thanks for the sarcasm but i'm pretty sure i'm capable of doing my own research as to what will work. The point of the post was simply that if you were in the market for a basic AR to start a kid out on or just to throw in the truck, you could save a few bucks. I'm well aware that there are better quality ones out there. And I also support local shops but some people can take the extra savings and buy a few boxes of ammo. </div></div>

To answer your original question. There is nothing wrong with that weapon. No need to spend over $1000 if you dont need to.

I am also aware that several dealers do overcharge and that may the the case in your area. However, most dealers should be able to get really close to WalMarts price. But, if they are $100 over then there is definately something wrong with that.

Wal Mart just pisses me off because they try to control every possible market on the planet. Before you know it, the government will be part owners. Do you know that WalMart sells Caskets and Funeral accessories now? Whats next? http://www.walmart.com/ip/Lady-de-Guadalupe-Steel-Casket/12569361
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: topgun99</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am as pissed as the next guy watching american companies outsource jobs overseas and close plants in this country all for the sake of squeezing a few more dollars out of their already bloated profit margins. That being said, I also understand that there are those that do not have the luxury of only buying Made In The USA because of their limited income. Some people have to make the best use of those limited funds and if that means saving $40.00 to $50.00 bucks on a rifle at walmart vs. a local shop so be it. At least they are exercising their 2A rights and still contributing to the local economy because those tax dollars still go into supporting their community. </div></div>

Most Wal-Mart's pay very low marginal tax rates because they get incentives by local governments. Tends to piss you off when you work your ass off at a family business that has supported the local economy for 50+ years and some Wal-Mart or Lowes comes in and get's special deals on their land and lower tax rates than you.
 
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I bought a 22 crickett for my nephew on a whim at walmart-between paperwork, people finding other people with special keys, etc, it took about 45 minutes to walk out of the store with it. Never again, just cuz of the hassle if nothing else

BTW, the last gun I got had problems within the first 50 rounds, took it back to the gun store and the owner immediately apologized and checked to see if there was a new one in stock to replace it with. There wasnt, so he boxed it up and sent it out for warranty work and thanked me for my business..see if wally world will do that for you
 
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Funny you mention that. Not to hijack this thread but I had a similar experience at Cabelas of all places the other day. I bought a little browning buckmark 22 there (actually got them to price match someone, somewhat unusual at Cabelas)because they had the model I wanted when everyone else around was sold out. From the time we agreed on the price, it took me over an hour to get the paperwork done and get out the door. The now do the ATF form on a computer and then print it up. After about 45 min I told them I have to leave and if you can't get this done then I don't want it. Seriously about 6 or 7 people had to check and recheck the paperwork and before anyone gets funny ideas, this was all before they made the call so there is nothing wrong with my background check. I also have a concealed carriers permit which in my state allows you to not have to wait the 5 day waiting period for handguns and take it home immediately but still over an hour.

You definitely don't have to put up with that at a local smaller shop. My time is more valuable than an extra 30 bucks or so I may save there.
 
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Yes please do support your local dealer. I have worked in a small shop (family owned) for about 6 years on/off and it just blows my mind how often i hear either "i can get it for $20 less online" or "they have it down the road for $10 less" it amazes me how people will sacrafice great service to save a couple dollars. Then actually they will go and drive 3 hours to get that great $20 off and they dont get they just wasted $30 in gas. Good service only matters to few nowadays but $2 less makes all others ecstatic.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: borefodder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Funny you mention that. Not to hijack this thread but I had a similar experience at Cabelas of all places the other day. I bought a little browning buckmark 22 there (actually got them to price match someone, somewhat unusual at Cabelas)because they had the model I wanted when everyone else around was sold out. From the time we agreed on the price, it took me over an hour to get the paperwork done and get out the door. The now do the ATF form on a computer and then print it up. After about 45 min I told them I have to leave and if you can't get this done then I don't want it. Seriously about 6 or 7 people had to check and recheck the paperwork and before anyone gets funny ideas, this was all before they made the call so there is nothing wrong with my background check. I also have a concealed carriers permit which in my state allows you to not have to wait the 5 day waiting period for handguns and take it home immediately but still over an hour.

You definitely don't have to put up with that at a local smaller shop. My time is more valuable than an extra 30 bucks or so I may save there. </div></div>

Agreed.
 
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I had the same experience at Cabelas a while back. Bought a savage rascal for my son. It took about an hour to do the paperwork, once I had finished up the computer component. The fam doesn't mind wandering around the store (and I had a few things that I wanted to pick up anyway) so it wasn't really that big of a deal. However, I bought my LR-308 from a small shop and they had the paperwork done before I could get my money out of my pocket. And, they had what I wanted in stock (unlike Cabelas), and they were price competitive on it. They will definitely see me again.