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Rifle Scopes I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

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I don't know if anyone else has thought of or tried anything like this before but I will share it for what it's worth.
By using a VERY THIN layer of brown poly shipping tape it prevents any metal to metal contact but it's only 1/10000 of an inch thick (even thinner once compressed) so there is no shimming. I used 1 layer NO MORE and once the scope is mounted it will conform to all the microscopic "hills and valleys". I got the idea from the Burris Zee rings that use the thick nylon inserts. But here is a few pics of before and after a scope was mounted into the rings.
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Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So who gives a shit?
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So how gives a shit? </div></div>

It has a lot to do with resale value I think...
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So how gives a shit?</div></div>
What a shitty comment, you must be a super tool to say some crap like that! To the OP, thanks for posting, keep up the good work.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Special Delivery</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So how gives a shit?</div></div>
What a shitty comment, you must be a super tool to say some crap like that! To the OP, thanks for posting, keep up the good work. </div></div>

Don't encourage him. Read this thread:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3478125#Post3478125

And seriously? I'm a super-tool? Wow...
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: buckbrush</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So how gives a shit? </div></div>

It has a lot to do with resale value I think... </div></div>

Who buys them with the intention to resale? If you actually USE your gear, its going to end up with much, much worse than ring marks.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Bad idea. Tape won't prevent ring marks; but it will undermine the function of the rings. The way to prevent ring marks is to use quality rings and to correctly mount the scope.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tape won't prevent ring marks. But it will undermine the function of the rings. Bad idea. The way to prevent ring marks is to use quality rings and to correctly mount the scope. </div></div>

^this

If he'd actually fire his guns once in a while rather than giving scopes a suntan with camera flash, he'd learn this in a hurry.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: buckbrush</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So how gives a shit? </div></div>

It has a lot to do with resale value I think... </div></div>

Who buys them with the intention to resale? If you actually USE your gear, its going to end up with much, much worse than ring marks.

</div></div>

You can "use" gear and take care of it at the same.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: buckbrush</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

You can "use" gear and take care of it at the same. </div></div>

Sure, I take great care of mine. How does tape inside your rings "take care" of it? Ever shot a tac match? You're going to bump things around, shoot in awkward positions over crazy barriers. You're going to scratch gear. You're going to expose it to dust, sand, rain, snow, etc. Same goes for hunting.

Gappa probably tapes the head of his hammers to keep them from getting scratched driving nails, too.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

I too have a great idea on how not to get ring marks on your new scope. My way is a guaranteed to work, if it gets ring marks. I will buy it back from you(Only on a brand new scope).....Here it goes, first open the box. Then drool all over it because it would look so awesome on that safe queen. After you're done drooling, put it back in the box and I promise you will never have ring mark problems
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Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

I do something similar to protect my lenses from dangerous agents outside of the safe

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Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Special Delivery</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No, you're not the first person to have such an idea.

How do you know if it will leave ring marks? Have you fired the rifle after the scope being mounted?

Finally, who gives a shit if your scope has ring marks? It doesn't affect the performance of the scope, the rifle, or the shooter. So how gives a shit?</div></div>
What a shitty comment, you must be a super tool to say some crap like that! To the OP, thanks for posting, keep up the good work. </div></div>

Don't encourage him. Read this thread:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3478125#Post3478125

And seriously? I'm a super-tool? Wow... </div></div>

OK. I get it now.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

i also use it for mounting various items for a night out.....and they dont get scratched

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Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">when I lived in Northern VA everyone that knew me thought I was the "Beltway Sniper" FBI even came to my house and did GSR swabs on my service truck
No BS </div></div>

This explains it all, he lived in NOVA. You have to be immune to stupid to live here and not go full retard. Just like optics, he had no idea what he was getting himself into.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

For the record, people thinking you were the beltway madman with a rifle isn't something to be proud of. It means your a psycho. I've lived here all my life and had been into long range shooting well before that and nobody thought for a second it was me.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

This is about to get awesome. Who wants a beer?
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Use high quality rings & proper torque specs and forget the tape!!



KYS338,

I'll take a beer!!
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

bring this thread back the topic.

Ring marks are avaoidable if proper mounting process is followed. Even if you get some scuff from mounting or shooting, who cares? You baught the thing to do a job. as long as youa re happy with the performance and continue to use it. there is not need to resale, no issue with marks.

It is like a new truck. you want to keep it looking good, but you still need to use as a truck. I ahve always thought scuffs, scratches, and rash just tell your story. Enjoy your new scope to the fullest.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Properly lapped rings will yield no ring marks.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

they are seekins rings... resale value..
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Wouldn't you have to mount your scopes and shoot them to worry about ring marks and resale value?
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

obviously if the rings are shitty and out of round there is nothing that will fix that except lapping
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they are seekins rings... resale value.. </div></div>

Hmmmm, mount in the picture spells "seekins" just like <span style="font-weight: bold">Leupold</span>.


OFG
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">obviously if the rings are shitty and out of round there is nothing that will fix that except lapping </div></div>

Obviously, because you're such a vast source of knowledge when it comes to these things.

There are other things that can cause a less than ideal mounting surface besides just "shitty or out of round rings". I've seen scope bases out of spec (even ones that are "high quality" and expensive). I've also seen many actions that were out of spec and without bedding the base would warp it and cause a off mounting surface.

Why do you keep thinking you know it all and are reinventing the wheel?

I'm going to call you OJ from now on for "Optic Jesus" because before you stumbled upon rifle scopes we were doing it wrong for years. This must be why leupy just caught up to times and started offering some mil/mil FFP scope, they knew it was the first coming. The Mayan's were wrong about 2012 being the end of the world as well, it's the beginning of the optics world.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: oldfatguy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">they are seekins rings... resale value.. </div></div>

Hmmmm, mount in the picture spells "seekins" just like <span style="font-weight: bold">Leupold</span>.


OFG </div></div>

By the first two pics it does look like he could have a set of Seekins rings. Second mount is definitely Leupold though. The ring caps are 4 screw and the Leupy is a 2 screw.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Graham</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bad idea. Tape won't prevent ring marks; but it will undermine the function of the rings. The way to prevent ring marks is to use quality rings and to correctly mount the scope. </div></div>

That's the answer. All tape in there will do is make the rings have something between them and the tube to cause problems like slipping.

Just stop posting.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

LOL The troll is back! Not quite as funny as gecko45 but still entertaining to read. He's much more subtle.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Frankly, if what he says is true I would be more concerned about this than about his Trolling:<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">when I lived in Northern VA everyone that knew me thought I was the "Beltway Sniper" FBI even came to my house and did GSR swabs on my service truck
No BS </div></div>
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Gappa, thanks for the original post. With the tape liners your rings may or may not have enough friction to hold a scope under high recoil, but some testing would give you the answer to that question. Your comment about Burris rings using nylon inserts suggests it's possible.

My eye says your tape is a thicker than 1/10,000", which is 1/10 the thickness of a piece of 20-pound copier paper. That's pretty damn thin and would easily break.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Hey look I never claimed to know it all, I also said in the post I didn't know if it had been tried before. I have mounted one scope like this already and had excellent results. All I figured it would correct was the slight marring that metal to metal can cause. The Seekins rings have not been mounted yet, the Leupold mount has been used and worked well, you can see that it is compressed on the pinch points around the edges. When I removed the scope it still looked brand new no marking whatsoever.
<span style="font-weight: bold">You guys can't tell me when you go to buy a used scope and see marking from the rings you are willing to pay less for it than one that still looks new..</span>
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

what would this be? [img:left]
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Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

You just removed all doubt, can't even use a micrometer that's 15/10000ths.

Call out fail LOL.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what would this be? [img:left]
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Quote for hilarity before he can remove the pics of the "1/10000 inch" paper.


<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
By using a VERY THIN layer of brown poly shipping tape it prevents any metal to metal contact but it's only 1/10000 of an inch thick (even thinner once compressed) so there is no shimming. </div></div>


LOL
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

That's an expensive ass pair of calipers too, is they are the ones that are accurate to .0005 they range in price from $120-$850.

Is it your habit to buy expensive shit and never bother to figure out how the hell to use it?

For the record I have a $50 set (probably less than that) of RCBS calibers but I know how to use them...
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: redneckbmxer24</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You just removed all doubt, can't even use a micrometer that's 15/10000ths.

Call out fail LOL.</div></div>
Haha. But I don't think he had to remove any doubt for anyone who had actually read his other posts.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

Maybe so, but I just about pissed my pants after watching that clip
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes


I'm in a giving mood today.

1.) Take the tape off the Seekins Rings. Seekins Rings will not leave ring marks. If you think they will leave ring marks, bed your base.

2.) The other pair looks like a Leupold AR15 mount. Lap them. Don't over lap them. 10-15 strokes with fine lapping compound is all that's needed. Your only removing the high spots.

3.) No one on here really gives a shit about ring marks. Resale value is not affected. We use our gear, it's expected to have some character marks on it from use. If it doesn't, you're gay.

4.) Stop playing the troll psycho on here. It's not appreciated, nor accepted.
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">whatever, you all love me!! </div></div>


ignorance is bliss.....
 
Re: I have a way to prevent ring marks on scopes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Gappa</div><div class="ubbcode-body">what would this be? [img:left]
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ROFL Such an EPIC fail.

Come on guys... still think he's for real?
 
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