Re: 700 SPS Tactical, SPS Varming, SSD-AD or 5R??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.
Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.
Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.
Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.
If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>
thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>
I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.
The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.
The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Glen1978</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: StayHidden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have/had all of these but use each for different things/ranges.
Mainly the only difference between the SPS Tactical and Varmint are the Tactical has a shorter barrel and better stock (in my opinion, some people like the wider forened on the Var though). The Tactical also has pillar bedding already where the Varmint has no bedding of an sorts. So if you don't want to go with a long barrel throw the Varmint idea out. They both have heavy barrels though. Look for the Tactical to run about $100 more than the Varmint.
Now between the 5R and AAC-SD, I would probably go with the AAC-SD in your case if you're planning on changing the stock out anyways. The HS stock on the 5R is great but like you say if you like something more adjustable then take that extra $400-500 and put it towards a new stock or glass or something.
Personally I love my 5R over my AAC-SD. The 5R will shoot sub .5 moa with 168 and 175 smk's, where the AAC-SD shoots around .6 moa.
If you have any other questions about these feel free to shoot me a PM.</div></div>
thanks man! Can you have "overkill" in the rifling....as in the 1-10 on the AAC for what I want to do as in say 175gr? This vs. the 1-11.25 on the 5R is what I was referring to. Also cant stand the stainless finish, love the stainless but not the color. Cerakoting would set me back another couple hundred.</div></div>
I know exactly what you mean on the stainless color, too flashy, nice to not have to worry about rust and all that though.
The 175gr or 178gr should love the 1:10 twist of the AAC barrel. Could even go up to as much as 220gr if you were looking for longer range. The 175 should still get great distance from that twist though.
The 11.25 twist of the 5R shoots the 168 flatter at shorter distances but anything out past about 6-700yds or so and it starts to become unstable.</div></div>
So your saying the tighter twist will make lighter projectiles unstable at further ranges? Sorry if thats a dumb question.
I want to buy once and be happy and not wish I would have got X rifle. Its no GAP built stuff but it will out shoot me for sure....Any of them.</div></div>
No, not necessarily. The lighter projectile will become unstable on its own sooner than compared to a heavier bullet. The heavier bullets will hold course better at longer ranges.
Now if the bullet is way too light then the 1:10 can causes to much rotation on the lighter bullet making it unstable also.
Now a way to overcome the twist difference is simple, If you have a 1:10 twist rate and use the 168 smk, simply load the round to a lower node, if you have a 1:12 and use a 175 smk, load to a higher node. This will obtain optimal accuracy even if the bullet is not "the best fit" for the twist rate.
Best way would be to buy some Federal Gold Medal Match 168 and 175's or Black Hills 168 and 175's, and then load from there based on which she preformed better with (if you plan on loading that is)
