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6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

JGorski

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Just loaded my first 6 Creedmoor shells today now I have to wonder if this round will be a 6BR, Dasher, etc. etc. killer for the next 600 yard shoot we have in the area. Any thoughts, feel free to reply. This one is loaded with RL17 and the 105 Hornady.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

I'm going with highly doubtful. There's several cases out there similar to the 6 Creedmoor and the BR is still king in that game.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

Good luck with that. 6BR is one of the best and most inherantly accurate cartridges ever designed. Best bet would be to shoot in a small hurricane. LOL.
Good luck.

Regards, Paul
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

It really depends on your wind reading skills. Most all of the 6's hold remarkable elevation but if the wind won't be a factor the cartridges based on the 6BR usually shoot lights out. One reason for that is the relatively light recoil won't have a cumulative affect as other larger calibers with heavier pills do. Have you tried the 107 SMK's or the Berger 105 VLD's? They are pretty much the gold standard at 600yds. and out.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bolloxinaspanner</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It really depends on your wind reading skills. Most all of the 6's hold remarkable elevation but if the wind won't be a factor the cartridges based on the 6BR usually shoot lights out. One reason for that is the relatively light recoil won't have a cumulative affect as other larger calibers with heavier pills do. Have you tried the 107 SMK's or the Berger 105 VLD's? They are pretty much the gold standard at 600yds. and out. </div></div>

I havent got the rifle back from Chad yet, have some 105 Hybrids waiting in the wings, really should wait til I get it here to set the seating depth, though I will chamber one of these rounds to see how close I am to the lands, according to the freebore set by the reamer I should be very close, will adjust when rifle arrives. These first 20 shells are pretty much break-in rounds anyways.

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Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

So you haven't even shot the rifle yet and you are curious if it will be more accurate than the most successful long range bench rest round ever invented?
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bward</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So you haven't even shot the rifle yet and you are curious if it will be more accurate than the most successful long range bench rest round ever invented? </div></div>

yeah, something like that. It is what it is, Ill be happy if I can come close to beating the ones Ill be going up against.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

Here is the deal. its not that your 6mm creedmoore isnt accurate or that it has the potential to be very accurate. The proble is that there is a hole system evolved around the 6BR and 6dasher that makes these two chambering superior. There are hundreds of fellas shooting the 6BR and very few shooting a 6 creedmoore. There is tons and tons of tips and loading data for the 6BR/dasher and i am pretty sure you had to make an educated guess for your load data on the 6creedoore.
Did you have a reamer made for a fl die to resize your brass with that matches the reamer that was used to chamber your barrel? Folks like dave kiff know that 90% of the folks that buy his 6BR and dasher reamers will be using a redding bushing die, so dave has made his chamber reamers to closely match. These are just a couple examples, but there are many more. What makes a case accurate isnt always just its design. Granted that some design are better than others, and the 6BR is definitaly a good one.
I had a 6.5 creedmoore one time that i thought was the ticket. That dam thing would shoot one hole groups at 100 yards, and i was just certain i would win with it at 600 yards. Well to make a long story short, i didnt win! The added recoil slowed me down as well as shoot the rig harder, thus making it harder to get back on target, plus when i did get back on target the rifle wasnt settled into the bags, so the shots were all over the place. I thought my load wasnt right, but that wasnt the case either, simply to much recoil. Keep in mind the gae i play is a little different that shooting steel plates so the stradagy is a bit different. We try to shoot a perfect score and a 1" group at the same time at 600 yards. The hole system has to be clicking to make this happen. Lee
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

Neither the 6xc or 6x47 have unseated the 6br and its variations, so to think a very similar case will would be folly.
The dasher, BRX and DX are all hard to beat period would that stop from trying ... hell no go have fun
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

I had Dave make me the same reamer design as what GAP uses, then sent the reamer drawing to Hornady and Ben made me both FL & NS dies. My load data is somewhat taken from the article on the RL17 on 6BR.com where German & Bob Jensen are loading for the 6XC, Ill work on it, hopefully get lucky and find a good load right off the bat and do some 600yd shootin'.
http://www.6mmbr.com/reloder17.html
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

all you need is to push a 105 ish gr bullet at 3000FPS, the 6BR does just that with less powder than the creedmoor and barrel life will be a bit longer too.
small groups are small groups and the BR is here to stay for a long long time, your 6 may be its equall in accuracy but not its killer.
enjoy your rifle and don't worry about which dick is bigger.
cheers.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

so it sounds like the creedmoor wont be overtaking it, why did the bother to make the 6 creedmoor then?
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

They made it cause you can run it in an AR, if I recall George's thread correctly.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Freeze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They made it cause you can run it in an AR, if I recall George's thread correctly. </div></div>

My understanding was that it feeds better in all repeaters not just the AR platform guns.
 
Re: 6 Creedmoor, 6BR killer?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AMMOWASTER</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Freeze</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They made it cause you can run it in an AR, if I recall George's thread correctly. </div></div>

My understanding was that it feeds better in all repeaters not just the AR platform guns.

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We shall see this week when my new rifle gets here.