Proof Research Custom Rifles

[The Surgeons Ghost]

http://proofresearch.com/

Looked around on the "search" for this builder.

Anyone seen anything on this builder or by chance have seen one of their builds. I read an article on this company back in the spring and they also manufacture their own stocks as well. It seem to be a nice stock. Not sure what their pricing is on the products. Oh well, give it a look and see what you think.

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

Re: Proof Research Custom Rifles

Prices starting at $6850.00.

 

[bwanajcj]

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Proof research, is owned by KK Jense owner of Jense precision rifles. I have fired quite a few of their bolt guns as well as their AR rifles. very high quality and super accurate as well. their proprietary carbon wrap is the best in the industry.

 

[The Surgeons Ghost]

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$6800?? Is that for Magnum calibers or does that include the short actions?

For that price, what makes them better than say a GA or Surgeon? I can't see the high price in just the barrel. Of course maybe carbon barrels are that high, never had the desire to price one.

What do you think about their stocks vs McMillan or Manners?

I seen a picture of one on their website, look like they had a carbon bedding block & frame.

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

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But their barrels are made of unobtanium.

I will stick with my Robert Gradous 6.5. Thanks.

 

[RWSGunsmithing]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m14er</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But their barrels are made of unobtanium.

I will stick with my Robert Gradous 6.5. Thanks. </div></div>

I wouldn't say they are unobtanium. Last time I called and spoke to Jeff there they had some blanks on the self just needed to be wrapped and he quoted me just a couple of weeks for that.

 

[ranger1183]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bwanajcj</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Proof research, is owned by KK Jense owner of Jense precision rifles. I have fired quite a few of their bolt guns as well as their AR rifles. very high quality and super accurate as well. their proprietary carbon wrap is the best in the industry.</div></div>
KK Jense is President of the company, but no longer CEO. KK is not <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">THE</span></span> owner of Proof Research, but is one of the founding members. Not that those points mean a damn thing, but thought I'd clear the air. Proof makes stellar rifles for the very wealthy. Some day I might own one ....

 

[The Lawn Ranger]

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What makes them so expensive? Just curious.

 

[REL1203]

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In some of their videos they show them shooting BIG 338 calibers at 500yards, but groupings honestly didnt look very good, MOA of 1.5 it looked like, but the videos they had up i wasn't that impressed with

 

[PowerstrokeOBX]

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On the barrel wrapping, how thick is the wrap?

 

[andrews1958]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: m14er</div><div class="ubbcode-body">But their barrels are made of unobtanium.

I will stick with my Robert Gradous 6.5. Thanks.</div></div>

+1 = Go with Robert. You will not regret it!

 

[The Surgeons Ghost]

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If you wanted, or had to, use your $6,000+ rifle as a club you would not have to worry about it breaking. At least not at the barrel any way.

Don't get me wrong, they really have a nice rifle. But is it nice enough to spend this much vs a Surgeon or GA Precision? Heck even a Surgeon or GA built in an AX chassis isn't this high.

 

[sr15match]

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All still built around a Defiance receiver as many of the top builders around here use......... Carbon wrapped barrels and carbon stocks worth that much? I won't knock'em till I can actually handle or shoot one but until then my money is going elsewhere.

 

[ranger1183]

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A Proof Research rifle is significantly lighter than a traditional rifle. If you're humping up and down the mountains in Afghanistan chasing Taliban (or in the Rockies chasing Big Horn Sheep) the weight savings are huge.

For tactical rifles the weight savings are most important. M24 contour barrels that weigh less than 3 pounds, compared to the typical +7 pounds. Fully adjustable tactical stocks that weigh a fraction of what an McM A5 or aluminum chassis weighs. This all adds up.

And the rifles are crazy accurate. By using Defiance actions, KK's chambering technique and the perfection in bedding executed by the finishing folks, accuracy is really top notch.

But obviously, you're going to have to pay for it.

 

[rundm]

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I really want to try one of their carbon barrels. I think having a 3 lb hvy barrel instead of 6-7lb barrel on my 7wsm would be just the ticket. I understand they are not doing Rock wrapped barrels any more but doing an in house barrel now. Is the accuracy the same as before with the rocks and other barrels that they wrapped? Still on the expensive side once the barrel is chambered up to your action. About 600 more if I am not mistaken.

 

[NBot]

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I am kinda of interested in their tactical stock...

It seems to have the front of a KMW Sentinel however with a A4/A5 grip system.

 

[Lowlight]

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I will say, on the site the rifles look really good, be interested to see how they work and what kind of issues one might find in a Training or Competition setting with a some what sustained course of fire ?

With a 5-25x scope will you get excessive mirage off the barrel like a suppressor ?

Is there any POI shift during said strings of fire ?

How does it react under same with a suppressor on ?

 

[sr15match]

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I'm putting together (as time allows) an 18" AR for my wife and keeping the weight reasonable. I checked on a carbon wrapped barrel from Proof and it's a bit pricey but still in consideration. I'm just a bit nervous about the whole carbon wrap deal. After reading the simple quick thread by Mike Bush regarding heat build up and dissipation a while back it makes me wonder a little especially at twice the cost of a fully finished Krieger or simular.

More real life feed back would be nice.

 

[RWSGunsmithing]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I will say, on the site the rifles look really good, be interested to see how they work and what kind of issues one might find in a Training or Competition setting with a some what sustained course of fire ?

With a 5-25x scope will you get excessive mirage off the barrel like a suppressor ?

Is there any POI shift during said strings of fire ?

How does it react under same with a suppressor on ?

</div></div>

I've used wrapped barrels in the past for prairie dog hunting, now not the same as a comp or training you can still get a lot of fast fire strings in.

I can say that mirage can be a bitch coming off of them, similar to what a can does.

But what I also noticed is that the mirage also disappears fairly quickly.

Would I run one on a comp gun? Maybe, depends on the course. If there is a fair amount of walking/running to different stages and a lot of off hand shooting sure. Now if there is more stationary shooting like at rifles only or the cup then nope.

This brings up a possible solution though and that's a mirage band. It could possible eliminate most of the mirage coming off the barrel.