been buying mastercraft courser A/Ts and C/Ts last set was junk. not buying those again... need a good tire that is 90% highway and 10% farm and ranch use!
Any suggestions?
Any suggestions?
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I used to run BFG ATs but they <span style="text-decoration: underline">suck</span> in the snow/ice, so I went with a Yokahama GeoLanders (SP?) and they've been awesome with everything I've thrown at them, they certainly take to ice much better and I think they clear much better and faster than the ATs. Snow/ice is a major consideration for my driving as we spend a lot of time up in Breckenridge so ice performance was my main consideration.
This is on a F350 diesel FX4
I used to run BFG ATs but they <span style="text-decoration: underline">suck</span> in the snow/ice, so I went with a Yokahama GeoLanders (SP?) and they've been awesome with everything I've thrown at them, they certainly take to ice much better and I think they clear much better and faster than the ATs. Snow/ice is a major consideration for my driving as we spend a lot of time up in Breckenridge so ice performance was my main consideration.
This is on a F350 diesel FX4
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After years of running BFG's and Coopers, I just put a set of Nitto Dura Grappler's on my 3500 diesel Dodge. Very impressed with them. E-rated. Great on Highway.
I'll still be running a set of General studded snow tires for plowing in winter. But I would have no issues in 'normal' use with the Nitto's for winter. If it weren't for plowing, the Nittos would be fine. But my driveway is a goatpath that gets very icy. No studs... no plow...no get home!
Cheers,
Sirhr
After years of running BFG's and Coopers, I just put a set of Nitto Dura Grappler's on my 3500 diesel Dodge. Very impressed with them. E-rated. Great on Highway.
I'll still be running a set of General studded snow tires for plowing in winter. But I would have no issues in 'normal' use with the Nitto's for winter. If it weren't for plowing, the Nittos would be fine. But my driveway is a goatpath that gets very icy. No studs... no plow...no get home!
Cheers,
Sirhr
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SASSdriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">been buying mastercraft courser A/Ts and C/Ts last set was junk. not buying those again... need a good tire that is 90% highway and 10% farm and ranch use!
Any suggestions? </div></div>
I'm in about boat in terms of my 4WD usage (mine's around 80%/20%). I didn't want a dedicated A/T tire for a variety of reasons, but upon the recommendations of others and the reviews on TireRack, I ended up with the Michelin LTX MS2's on my 4Runner which have performed exceedingly well in everything from dry pavement to deep snow to gravel and rutted road to open field off road. I wouldn't want to get them too deep in any mud, but aside from that, they have been excellent tires with plenty of off-road/bad-weather performance, along with great handling/low noise on the highway. Unfortunately...they ain't cheap by any means which is my only gripe. They do seem to hold up well though as I have 15k miles on my current set with no signs of any wear at this time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SASSdriver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">been buying mastercraft courser A/Ts and C/Ts last set was junk. not buying those again... need a good tire that is 90% highway and 10% farm and ranch use!
Any suggestions? </div></div>
I'm in about boat in terms of my 4WD usage (mine's around 80%/20%). I didn't want a dedicated A/T tire for a variety of reasons, but upon the recommendations of others and the reviews on TireRack, I ended up with the Michelin LTX MS2's on my 4Runner which have performed exceedingly well in everything from dry pavement to deep snow to gravel and rutted road to open field off road. I wouldn't want to get them too deep in any mud, but aside from that, they have been excellent tires with plenty of off-road/bad-weather performance, along with great handling/low noise on the highway. Unfortunately...they ain't cheap by any means which is my only gripe. They do seem to hold up well though as I have 15k miles on my current set with no signs of any wear at this time.
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hankook dynapro, love them
hankook dynapro, love them
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Falken Rocky Mountain ATS
Falken Rocky Mountain ATS
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BFG Longtrail'TA's work for me. 60K+ .
BFG Longtrail'TA's work for me. 60K+ .
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Michelin builds a long wearing tire but is not good about adjustments if you have an issue and the price is high compared to other major brands. Bridgestone Revo AT's, Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor, Toyo Open Country AT's, and the Nitto Dura Grappler are all good tires and will run with the Michelin for less money when compared in cost per mile. You will pay more for any of these than the MC's that you have been buying. If you weren't happy with the MC's stay away from Cooper, Mastercraft, and El Dorado as they are all Cooper product.
I have been running the Goodyear Silent Armors and Duratracs and have been happy with ride, traction, and wear. I don't think you can go wrong with the the Goodyear Silent Armor for what you are wanting.
Michelin builds a long wearing tire but is not good about adjustments if you have an issue and the price is high compared to other major brands. Bridgestone Revo AT's, Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor, Toyo Open Country AT's, and the Nitto Dura Grappler are all good tires and will run with the Michelin for less money when compared in cost per mile. You will pay more for any of these than the MC's that you have been buying. If you weren't happy with the MC's stay away from Cooper, Mastercraft, and El Dorado as they are all Cooper product.
I have been running the Goodyear Silent Armors and Duratracs and have been happy with ride, traction, and wear. I don't think you can go wrong with the the Goodyear Silent Armor for what you are wanting.
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I like the BFG AT. I have about 160k continuous across two concurrent sets on current truck. 285s and now 295s.
Located in WI.
My usage is an everyday driver that hits logging roads and some intermediate type areas where say a factory 1/2 ton wouldn't make it. I pull a 2-up snowmobile trailer through some yearly really messy stuff in the UP. The truck is on frozen lakes…allot. I’m often on the largest inland lake in WI (snow-ice-snow-ice). It’s not a super tire but I wouldn’t put water/ice/snow as a huge relative weakness. The truck was never nervous in these conditions.
The tire can have some serious mud issues, I’ve run the truck through spring farm fields about every year I had it. If it its black, red, and generally sticky, your f’ed no matter what tire rotation velocity you can maintain. It’s been buried deep six in national forest.
My biggest gripe at the BFG AT: Sucks in sticky mud or allot of deep mud. Likes to pick up stones and gravel.
My biggest positive at the BFG AT: Sidewall remains rigid over life and great HWY wear properties. Great all-around tire.
I like the BFG AT. I have about 160k continuous across two concurrent sets on current truck. 285s and now 295s.
Located in WI.
My usage is an everyday driver that hits logging roads and some intermediate type areas where say a factory 1/2 ton wouldn't make it. I pull a 2-up snowmobile trailer through some yearly really messy stuff in the UP. The truck is on frozen lakes…allot. I’m often on the largest inland lake in WI (snow-ice-snow-ice). It’s not a super tire but I wouldn’t put water/ice/snow as a huge relative weakness. The truck was never nervous in these conditions.
The tire can have some serious mud issues, I’ve run the truck through spring farm fields about every year I had it. If it its black, red, and generally sticky, your f’ed no matter what tire rotation velocity you can maintain. It’s been buried deep six in national forest.
My biggest gripe at the BFG AT: Sucks in sticky mud or allot of deep mud. Likes to pick up stones and gravel.
My biggest positive at the BFG AT: Sidewall remains rigid over life and great HWY wear properties. Great all-around tire.
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My other choice would be Bridgestone Dueler A/T's! My 31x10.5's got me through hell and back!!!
They performed beautifully on the Hwy, with no noise, and wore perfectly.
Got those over some M/T's due to snow and ice performance (I go through more shit on frozen lakes, than most other terrain)
My other choice would be Bridgestone Dueler A/T's! My 31x10.5's got me through hell and back!!!
They performed beautifully on the Hwy, with no noise, and wore perfectly.
Got those over some M/T's due to snow and ice performance (I go through more shit on frozen lakes, than most other terrain)
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Toyo M55's if they still make them are one of the best all purpose truck tires made . When I worked at Les Schwab I sold the heck out of them as they were super easy to sell since the construction quality is easy to see and feel .
Toyo M55's if they still make them are one of the best all purpose truck tires made . When I worked at Les Schwab I sold the heck out of them as they were super easy to sell since the construction quality is easy to see and feel .
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Michelin LTX M/S. Great hwy ride, great milage and enough tread to get you anywhere you should be going in 4 wd. </div></div>
I bought my first set of those three years ago. I put 53,000 on them and when I traded the truck they had at least 10,000 left on them. They rode as well on the 60 miles to the dealer the day I traded the truck as they did the first day I pulled out of the tire store.
They are the very best tires I've ever owned. I had my second set installed today.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MtnCreek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Michelin LTX M/S. Great hwy ride, great milage and enough tread to get you anywhere you should be going in 4 wd. </div></div>
I bought my first set of those three years ago. I put 53,000 on them and when I traded the truck they had at least 10,000 left on them. They rode as well on the 60 miles to the dealer the day I traded the truck as they did the first day I pulled out of the tire store.
They are the very best tires I've ever owned. I had my second set installed today.
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Nitto Tera Grapplers
Nitto Tera Grapplers
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"My biggest gripe at the BFG AT: Sucks in sticky mud or allot of deep mud. Likes to pick up stones and gravel."
This is the worst thing about them. Will screw you quarters panels up! I've had 1 set of 285's and 3 sets of 315's. Had to get panels repainted... 37 KM2's on there now.
"My biggest gripe at the BFG AT: Sucks in sticky mud or allot of deep mud. Likes to pick up stones and gravel."
This is the worst thing about them. Will screw you quarters panels up! I've had 1 set of 285's and 3 sets of 315's. Had to get panels repainted... 37 KM2's on there now.
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It may be that Michelin is the best, however, I will not run them.
In 69-70 in the War Games in Sunny Southeast Asia I had to deal with the Frogs from Michelin in III Corp.
It was not good as they still controled a lot of rubber plantation then.
I got a hate on for them as they tried and sometimes were sucessful at sending troops around some areas or into other areas of their plantations. The French were POS people and I never trusted them.
If the Frenchman told me to stay away from something, that is where I went to find dinks. If he said go this way or that, I would comply until out of sight then go around and sneak up on the ambush and bust caps.
I would not put a Michelin tire on a skateboard is how much I hate them.
I bought a Dodge 2500 diesel truck with Michelin tires on it in Brighton and drove it to Greeley and had the tires replaced with BFG. 43 miles and wondering when the Frog was going to ambush me somehow.
Cost was minimal, good trade on Michelin tires, they were not under me.
Just my thoughts, Fuck Michelin and Fuck all the Frenchmen involved. It has been 40+ years but I have not forgotten.
I would rather walk than ride on Michelin tires. Regards, FM
It may be that Michelin is the best, however, I will not run them.
In 69-70 in the War Games in Sunny Southeast Asia I had to deal with the Frogs from Michelin in III Corp.
It was not good as they still controled a lot of rubber plantation then.
I got a hate on for them as they tried and sometimes were sucessful at sending troops around some areas or into other areas of their plantations. The French were POS people and I never trusted them.
If the Frenchman told me to stay away from something, that is where I went to find dinks. If he said go this way or that, I would comply until out of sight then go around and sneak up on the ambush and bust caps.
I would not put a Michelin tire on a skateboard is how much I hate them.
I bought a Dodge 2500 diesel truck with Michelin tires on it in Brighton and drove it to Greeley and had the tires replaced with BFG. 43 miles and wondering when the Frog was going to ambush me somehow.
Cost was minimal, good trade on Michelin tires, they were not under me.
Just my thoughts, Fuck Michelin and Fuck all the Frenchmen involved. It has been 40+ years but I have not forgotten.
I would rather walk than ride on Michelin tires. Regards, FM
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Go with michelin! I have seen the M/S 2 go 90k. Awesome for what you are looking for. I just replaced my POS falken Tires with a set of michelin A/T2 and love them, first time in years I've heard wind noise in my durango. I sell Tires and michelin has the Best track record for happy customers.
Go with michelin! I have seen the M/S 2 go 90k. Awesome for what you are looking for. I just replaced my POS falken Tires with a set of michelin A/T2 and love them, first time in years I've heard wind noise in my durango. I sell Tires and michelin has the Best track record for happy customers.
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Don't hold it in FM! Go ahead and tell us how you really feel.
Don't hold it in FM! Go ahead and tell us how you really feel.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It may be that Michelin is the best, however, I will not run them.
In 69-70 in the War Games in Sunny Southeast Asia I had to deal with the Frogs from Michelin in III Corp.
It was not good as they still controled a lot of rubber plantation then.
I got a hate on for them as they tried and sometimes were sucessful at sending troops around some areas or into other areas of their plantations. The French were POS people and I never trusted them.
If the Frenchman told me to stay away from something, that is where I went to find dinks. If he said go this way or that, I would comply until out of sight then go around and sneak up on the ambush and bust caps.
I would not put a Michelin tire on a skateboard is how much I hate them.
I bought a Dodge 2500 diesel truck with Michelin tires on it in Brighton and drove it to Greeley and had the tires replaced with BFG. 43 miles and wondering when the Frog was going to ambush me somehow.
Cost was minimal, good trade on Michelin tires, they were not under me.
Just my thoughts, Fuck Michelin and Fuck all the Frenchmen involved. It has been 40+ years but I have not forgotten.
I would rather walk than ride on Michelin tires. Regards, FM </div></div>
Hey FM just so you know Michelin owns BFG and Uniroyal!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Foul Mike</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It may be that Michelin is the best, however, I will not run them.
In 69-70 in the War Games in Sunny Southeast Asia I had to deal with the Frogs from Michelin in III Corp.
It was not good as they still controled a lot of rubber plantation then.
I got a hate on for them as they tried and sometimes were sucessful at sending troops around some areas or into other areas of their plantations. The French were POS people and I never trusted them.
If the Frenchman told me to stay away from something, that is where I went to find dinks. If he said go this way or that, I would comply until out of sight then go around and sneak up on the ambush and bust caps.
I would not put a Michelin tire on a skateboard is how much I hate them.
I bought a Dodge 2500 diesel truck with Michelin tires on it in Brighton and drove it to Greeley and had the tires replaced with BFG. 43 miles and wondering when the Frog was going to ambush me somehow.
Cost was minimal, good trade on Michelin tires, they were not under me.
Just my thoughts, Fuck Michelin and Fuck all the Frenchmen involved. It has been 40+ years but I have not forgotten.
I would rather walk than ride on Michelin tires. Regards, FM </div></div>
Hey FM just so you know Michelin owns BFG and Uniroyal!
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For a normal street tread, Nitto Terra Grapplers. For a more aggressive look that's good in dirt and on the highway, I have Nitto Dune Grapplers. They don't make any noise, wear great, and look great as well.
For a normal street tread, Nitto Terra Grapplers. For a more aggressive look that's good in dirt and on the highway, I have Nitto Dune Grapplers. They don't make any noise, wear great, and look great as well.
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I had the Continentals (junk) pulled of my 07 powerstroke when I bought it and replaced them with Firestone Transforce HT's. I mostly use the truck for hunting trips, as in 80mph down the interstate and then up and down the hills of western ND. I'm happy with them so far.
It's too early for me to comment on wear as I've only put about 10,000 miles on them.
I had the Continentals (junk) pulled of my 07 powerstroke when I bought it and replaced them with Firestone Transforce HT's. I mostly use the truck for hunting trips, as in 80mph down the interstate and then up and down the hills of western ND. I'm happy with them so far.
It's too early for me to comment on wear as I've only put about 10,000 miles on them.
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<span style="font-weight: bold">Goodyear Wrangler MT/R</span>
The Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar® (MT/R - Maximum Traction/Reinforced) is Goodyear's Off-Road Maximum Traction tire developed for light truck driving enthusiasts who take off-road traction seriously. The Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar is designed to increase tire toughness when it conquers mud, crawls over rocks and explores trails.
The Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar features a silica rubber tread compound molded into an asymmetric tread design that combines off-road traction with on-road handling and wet traction. Goodyear's advanced mud-flow geometry tread design enhances self-cleaning capabilities while shoulder blocks (which alternate being stepped in and out) and a wraparound tread design on the upper sidewall increase traction in mud, sand, ruts and rocks. The tire's internal structure features twin steel belts and is Goodyear's first off-road tire to incorporate Dupont Kevlar, an innovative material that's, pound for pound, five times stronger than steel. The use of Kevlar sidewall reinforcement brings enhanced cut and puncture resistance to an area of the tire that demands extra toughness when driving off-road (increasing sidewall cut and puncture resistance by about 35% compared to the original Wrangler MT/R). The Kevlar also helps stabilize the sidewalls when drivers return to the pavement for the ride home.
http://www.offroadadventures.com/articles/view/id/365
<span style="font-weight: bold">Goodyear Wrangler MT/R</span>
The Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar® (MT/R - Maximum Traction/Reinforced) is Goodyear's Off-Road Maximum Traction tire developed for light truck driving enthusiasts who take off-road traction seriously. The Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar is designed to increase tire toughness when it conquers mud, crawls over rocks and explores trails.
The Wrangler MT/R with Kevlar features a silica rubber tread compound molded into an asymmetric tread design that combines off-road traction with on-road handling and wet traction. Goodyear's advanced mud-flow geometry tread design enhances self-cleaning capabilities while shoulder blocks (which alternate being stepped in and out) and a wraparound tread design on the upper sidewall increase traction in mud, sand, ruts and rocks. The tire's internal structure features twin steel belts and is Goodyear's first off-road tire to incorporate Dupont Kevlar, an innovative material that's, pound for pound, five times stronger than steel. The use of Kevlar sidewall reinforcement brings enhanced cut and puncture resistance to an area of the tire that demands extra toughness when driving off-road (increasing sidewall cut and puncture resistance by about 35% compared to the original Wrangler MT/R). The Kevlar also helps stabilize the sidewalls when drivers return to the pavement for the ride home.
http://www.offroadadventures.com/articles/view/id/365
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I run BFG All-Terrain T/A KO 285/75r16 10ply on my F350 and have had great results with them.
I run BFG All-Terrain T/A KO 285/75r16 10ply on my F350 and have had great results with them.
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I would have to say BFG MT's if you can deal with a mud terrain. I have ran two sets on my Tacoma and got 60,000 out of both (I could use a set right now but I'm holding off) I rotate the every 3-5,000 miles.
I would have to say BFG MT's if you can deal with a mud terrain. I have ran two sets on my Tacoma and got 60,000 out of both (I could use a set right now but I'm holding off) I rotate the every 3-5,000 miles.
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I've always been a fan of BFG AT. I spend absolutely zero time in the snow and quit intentionally driving though mud before I graduated high school. I've heard no bad reports on Nitto Terragrapplers.
I've always been a fan of BFG AT. I spend absolutely zero time in the snow and quit intentionally driving though mud before I graduated high school. I've heard no bad reports on Nitto Terragrapplers.
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Nitto Terra Grapplers! Awesome tires!
They are quite, have great grip, great wire and look smoking hot.
Nitto Terra Grapplers! Awesome tires!
They are quite, have great grip, great wire and look smoking hot.
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Go anywhere, do anything:
33" Nitto Trail Grapplers. They stay planted in the rain well enough on asphalt, do a darn good job in gravel, dirt, mud and bad roads, but yet have to be snow tested(I love not having snow...hate the stuff).
Yes, they are noisey on the road, but for a tire that should go 45k to 50k I ain't complaining. The only tire that has ever outperformed this one was the Pro Comp AT that this truck had on 'Day One'
Go anywhere, do anything:
33" Nitto Trail Grapplers. They stay planted in the rain well enough on asphalt, do a darn good job in gravel, dirt, mud and bad roads, but yet have to be snow tested(I love not having snow...hate the stuff).
Yes, they are noisey on the road, but for a tire that should go 45k to 50k I ain't complaining. The only tire that has ever outperformed this one was the Pro Comp AT that this truck had on 'Day One'
