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any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

H_Talon

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I'm doing a build, but for now I'm keeping the
factory 9.5 twist varmint barrel. as well as
I'm cutting it to 20", any suggestion on how
it will work with 162 AMAX bullets ?

it will be a 500 to 700 rifle. and 4" works for me
I don't have the knowledge for super precision
rounds (my hunting rounds work fine to 200yds
my max for hunting)

any thoughts ???

thanks .. H_Talon
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

H4350 or IMR8208. Do some testing between. 010" off to barely touching the lands for seating depth.
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

I haven't tried 8208 in a 7mm-08; I'd of thought that would be a bit fast. Varget and H4350 work nice for sure, though.

9.5 twist might do the trick, it's on the edge.

I've found that barrels tend to have either a love or hate relationship with the 162s. I wouldn't bother spending a ton of time/effort trying to get them to shoot. If your initial loads don't show good promise right away, I'd ditch them.
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX


thanks for the loading info , I was hoping
to get an information on those who have used
162's thru a 9.5 twist, and how well they worked.
my loads will be with varget ( I have a bunch )

I have to make an order for some parts and am
thinking to throwing a few hundred for load
development but if they won't work I'll have to
step back and regroup :)

again thanks ....

H_Talon
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

In my case I did use that load of 41grs 2000MR, shot it at 300yds, very nice 3 shot group, id hunt with it.
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_Talon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
thanks for the loading info , I was hoping
to get an information on those who have used
162's thru a 9.5 twist, and how well they worked.
my loads will be with varget ( I have a bunch )

I have to make an order for some parts and am
thinking to throwing a few hundred for load
development but if they won't work I'll have to
step back and regroup :)

again thanks ....

H_Talon</div></div>

I don't know why Hornady first came out with the 162 HPBT and stated it needed a 1-8" twist. Then still kept that requirement on the A-maxes. A 1-10" will stabilize them from relatively low speeds. I do this in my 7x57.

For my 7mm-08 I use either R-19 or R-22 46 gr. of R-19 and 49 gr. of R-22. The latter load is slightly compressed. If these bullets aren't keyholing, then they are stabilizing. If they just aren't accurate, you need to find a different harmonic (load) for your barrel.

A couple things to note here. You are keeping the factory 'varmint' barrel? Which to me implies you bought a Remington SPS varmint in 7mm-08? If so, you might reconsider that. As cutting down Remmy barrels has often proved unfruitful. Even their 'varmint' barrels are hammer forged and cutting them down releases/relieves stress in ways that can't be accounted for. In short, your barrel harmonics go haywire.

Regarding your group, 4" @ 500 to 700 is pretty damn tight in most cases. You might find it difficult to get that with a cut down Remmy barrel. A new cut barrel would be much more capable of providing that kind of accuracy. If you mean 4" @ 100 and want to shoot 500-700 yds., you might well again be disappointed with the accuracy. Could you clarify?
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_Talon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
thanks for the loading info , I was hoping
to get an information on those who have used
162's thru a 9.5 twist, and how well they worked.
my loads will be with varget ( I have a bunch )

I have to make an order for some parts and am
thinking to throwing a few hundred for load
development but if they won't work I'll have to
step back and regroup :)

again thanks ....

H_Talon</div></div>

I don't know why Hornady first came out with the 162 HPBT and stated it needed a 1-8" twist. Then still kept that requirement on the A-maxes. A 1-10" will stabilize them from relatively low speeds. I do this in my 7x57.

For my 7mm-08 I use either R-19 or R-22 46 gr. of R-19 and 49 gr. of R-22. The latter load is slightly compressed. If these bullets aren't keyholing, then they are stabilizing. If they just aren't accurate, you need to find a different harmonic (load) for your barrel.

A couple things to note here. You are keeping the factory 'varmint' barrel? Which to me implies you bought a Remington SPS varmint in 7mm-08? If so, you might reconsider that. As cutting down Remmy barrels has often proved unfruitful. Even their 'varmint' barrels are hammer forged and cutting them down releases/relieves stress in ways that can't be accounted for. In short, your barrel harmonics go haywire.

Regarding your group, 4" @ 500 to 700 is pretty damn tight in most cases. You might find it difficult to get that with a cut down Remmy barrel. A new cut barrel would be much more capable of providing that kind of accuracy. If you mean 4" @ 100 and want to shoot 500-700 yds., you might well again be disappointed with the accuracy. Could you clarify? </div></div>

thank you for the excellent response :)

I'm picking up a rem 700 7mm-08 varmint new
in the box next week, I'm having work done on the
action and replacing the stock, I don't have the
funds at this time to replace the barrel,

so the factory barrel for now, I hope when I
have it cut it works for now.. we'll see ..

as for range I'm looking to get 4" or so @ 500
not 100 . with that being said again we'll have
to see how it works out. I have tons of varget
and I guess I'll try my luck with the 162's
I was concerned it wouldn't stabilize with a
9.5 twist ... I just have to see on the harmonics.

thanks ...
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_Talon</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: H_Talon</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
thanks for the loading info , I was hoping
to get an information on those who have used
162's thru a 9.5 twist, and how well they worked.
my loads will be with varget ( I have a bunch )

I have to make an order for some parts and am
thinking to throwing a few hundred for load
development but if they won't work I'll have to
step back and regroup :)

again thanks ....

H_Talon</div></div>

I don't know why Hornady first came out with the 162 HPBT and stated it needed a 1-8" twist. Then still kept that requirement on the A-maxes. A 1-10" will stabilize them from relatively low speeds. I do this in my 7x57.

For my 7mm-08 I use either R-19 or R-22 46 gr. of R-19 and 49 gr. of R-22. The latter load is slightly compressed. If these bullets aren't keyholing, then they are stabilizing. If they just aren't accurate, you need to find a different harmonic (load) for your barrel.

A couple things to note here. You are keeping the factory 'varmint' barrel? Which to me implies you bought a Remington SPS varmint in 7mm-08? If so, you might reconsider that. As cutting down Remmy barrels has often proved unfruitful. Even their 'varmint' barrels are hammer forged and cutting them down releases/relieves stress in ways that can't be accounted for. In short, your barrel harmonics go haywire.

Regarding your group, 4" @ 500 to 700 is pretty damn tight in most cases. You might find it difficult to get that with a cut down Remmy barrel. A new cut barrel would be much more capable of providing that kind of accuracy. If you mean 4" @ 100 and want to shoot 500-700 yds., you might well again be disappointed with the accuracy. Could you clarify? </div></div>

thank you for the excellent response :)

I'm picking up a rem 700 7mm-08 varmint new
in the box next week, I'm having work done on the
action and replacing the stock, I don't have the
funds at this time to replace the barrel,

so the factory barrel for now, I hope when I
have it cut it works for now.. we'll see ..

as for range I'm looking to get 4" or so @ 500
not 100 . with that being said again we'll have
to see how it works out. I have tons of varget
and I guess I'll try my luck with the 162's
I was concerned it wouldn't stabilize with a
9.5 twist ... I just have to see on the harmonics.

thanks ... </div></div>

If the 162's won't work in your barrel, test another 'known' bullet. Try a Nosler 140 or 160 BT. Just to see if the barrel harmonics went nuts or it's just your barrel won't stabilize 162's. While a number of Remmy barrels HAVEN'T worked out for people a number of them HAVE. So, if it works for you, good deal. Just don't give up on it one or two bullets into trying. If it still doesn't work out, you'll have the rest of those bullets to shoot in a barrel that does.
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

I posted this thread a couple of weeks ago, according to JBM there should be no issue shooting the 162 from a 9.5 twist (I used a theoretical MV of 2600)...

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...524#Post3638524

I had a lot of success with H4350 and 150 SMK's out of the 20" barrel I replaced (which was a 10.5 twist). I'm getting ready to start working up some loads, and I too am curious about where to try these 162 VLD's...I usually load about .02 off, but I'm wondering if they should be closer.
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

I run the 162's at 2700 fps from a 22" rem barrel. I believe I'm running 47 g of H4350. It shoots about 1 moa from my pencil thin mtn contour barrel.

Bb
 
Re: any advice on 7mm-08 and 162 AMAX

Another reasonable option if the 162 won't stabilize is the Nosler CC 168's less BC but still decent enough for what you want. Varget is my go to powder when starting a new load in the 308 based cases.